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GERORGE E. CURRY: Condoleezza Rice Misfires (George Curry really, really doesn't like Condi Rice)
The Chicago Defender ^ | May 17, 2005 | George Curry

Posted on 05/17/2005 1:51:29 PM PDT by section9

GERORGE E. CURRY: Condoleezza Rice Misfires

by George E. Curry May 17, 2005

Few things are as repulsive as Black conservatives trying to advance the Republican agenda by mischaracterizing the Civil Rights Movement or distorting history. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice provided a textbook example of this during a recent appearance on CNN’s “Larry King Live.”

When asked her thoughts on gun control, Rice replied: “Well, Larry, I come out of a – my personal experiences in which in Birmingham, Ala., my father and his friends defended our community in 1962 and 1963 against White nightriders by going to the head of the community, the head of the cul-de-sac, and sitting there armed. And so I’m very concerned about any abridgement of the Second Amendment…”

Moments later, she added: “…We have to be very careful when we start abridging rights that our Founding Fathers thought very important. And on this one, I think that they understood that there might be circumstances that people like my father experienced in Birmingham, Ala., when, in fact, the police weren’t going to protect you.”

This expert on Soviet history obviously hasn’t studied enough American history. There is no evidence that the Founding Fathers – or the Fondling Fathers, as I like to call some of them – were in the least bit worried about African-Americans being able to protect themselves against White supremacists. In fact, half of them owned slaves. So did nine U.S. presidents. To brush up on her American history, Rice should read the expert witness testimony submitted by Eric Foner, then-president of the American Historical Association, in connection with the University of Michigan’s defense of its affirmative action programs before the U.S. Supreme Court.

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“Slaves, of course, experienced the institution of politics and law quite differently from white Americans,” wrote Foner, a history professor at Columbia University. “Before the law, slaves were property who had virtually no legal rights. They could be bought, sold, leased, and seized to satisfy an owner’s debt, their family ties had no legal standing, and they could not leave the plantation or hold meetings without the permission of their owner.” Given the treatment of African-Americans, it is incredulous to assert, as Rice does, that the Founding Fathers were even remotely concerned about allowing Blacks to protect themselves.

This is not the first time Rice has distorted facts for political gain.

Speaking at the 2000 Republican convention, Rice praised her father as “the first Republican I knew.” She declared, “Democrats in Jim Crow Alabama of 1952 would not register him to vote. The Republicans did. My father has never forgotten that day, and neither have I.” What Rice forgot was the truth: political parties don’t register voters in Alabama. Voters are added to the voting rolls by registrars. A profile of Rice written by Dale Russakoff, a reporter for the Washington Post and native of Birmingham, was even more telling. After a White registrar asked Rice’s father a trick question to keep him from registering, according to Russakoff: “Rice says her father later learned of a Republican functionary in the registrar’s office who would register blacks secretly, as long as they registered Republicans – not the expansive grant of suffrage suggested in her speech.”

Rice’s exploitation of the Civil Rights Movement is even more notable because her middle-class parents, by her own admission, were not active in the movement. Her father, John Rice, was a minister and her mother, Angelena, was a school teacher.

The Washington Post profile revealed, “On both sides of her family, Condi Rice is descended from white slave owners as well as black slaves; and the slaves were mostly ‘house slaves,’ as opposed to ‘field slaves,’ according to Connie Rice [Condoleezza’s cousin].”

Many middle-class Blacks waited for working class African-Americans to bring down barriers that would especially benefit better educated African-Americans.

“Condi Rice says her father embraced [the movement’s] goals, but not its means,” the profile of her explained. “’My father was not a march-in-the-street preacher,’ she says. He strenuously opposed the tactic that ultimately broke white business resistance to ending segregation in stores downtown – recruiting children to march into police commissioner Bull Connor’s phalanx of officers, police dogs and fire hoses, and overflow the jails. ‘He saw no reason to put children at risk,’ Rice says. ‘He would never put his own children at risk.’” But others did. And their courage should not be politically exploited by those who stood on the sidelines and refused to take similar risks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Illinois
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To: section9

Obviously, George can't see the 2nd Amendment issue except through the prism of racism. And so, he misses Condi's point.


21 posted on 05/17/2005 2:32:40 PM PDT by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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To: section9

>>There is no evidence that the Founding Fathers – or the Fondling Fathers, as I like to call some of them – were in the least bit worried about African-Americans being able to protect themselves against White supremacists.<<

What a self-important, self-verified idiot. This is a pure racist remark by him. Fact is, the founding fathers proved their intelligence and integrity by protecting the rights generically, regardless of race. Unlike him, race was not an issue. The issue was to protect the individuals right to protect himself from others that would do him harm, be he black against white, white against black, or girl against boy.

This guy is a real piece of work. It is amazing his voice is given any more prominence than the average letter to the editor.


22 posted on 05/17/2005 2:34:01 PM PDT by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: mhking
There is a good reason why the Liberals want to to keep racism alive and well in this country. IT makes for so many Gottcha moments for the Media. Notice the GOtcha moments only come at the expense of the people on the right.

It is sick. Condi is such a good role model for our young people.

I don't agree with her on everything- but I respect her. I hate to see the left smear her like this.

23 posted on 05/17/2005 2:39:08 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: section9

Just another pimp of the Race Industry tryng for press coverage!


24 posted on 05/17/2005 2:40:59 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: section9
Few things are as repulsive as Black conservatives trying to advance the Republican agenda by mischaracterizing the Civil Rights Movement or distorting history.

Yeah, but one of the things that is MORE repulsive is Black liberals trying to advance the socialist agenda by mischaracterizing the Civil Rights Movement or distorting history. Yet that happens every day. Ask Jesse Jackson. Or Al Sharpton. Or Kwesi Mfume. Or Julian Bond. Or Andrew Young. Or Coleman Young. Or Marion Barry. Or Louis Farrakhan. Or any of their fellow travelers/apologists.

25 posted on 05/17/2005 2:45:22 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Tallguy
Does George Curry think that Condi Rice's statement is automatically limited to "The Black Experience" just because she happens to be black. Clearly she's speaking as an unhyphenated American. She's Secretary of State fer cryin' out loud.

Asking a liberal to be color blind is like asking a fish to stay dry.

26 posted on 05/17/2005 2:45:41 PM PDT by 7.63Broom (The Left- Poison for America's Soul)
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To: section9

What a frickin' stupid moron. He can't follow a simple line of reasoning. He's a racist b@st@rd! Apparently the only constitutional right granted blacks in this @$$h@t'$ opinion is the constitutionally guaranteed right to commit genocide via abortion....


27 posted on 05/17/2005 3:01:00 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: mhking

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice provided a textbook example of this during a recent appearance on CNN’s “Larry King Live.”

** Condi grew up in the midst of segregation. That's all I need to know. I remember seeing that issue of Emerge on the newsstand and issuing a CURSE on it then ripping up the copy I grabbed off the shelf.


28 posted on 05/17/2005 3:12:06 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: section9

Very interesting how they dissect her family tree all the way back to slavery but slobber all over Barack Obama.


29 posted on 05/17/2005 3:13:53 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: section9
This expert on Soviet history obviously hasn’t studied enough American history. There is no evidence that the Founding Fathers – or the Fondling Fathers, as I like to call some of them – were in the least bit worried about African-Americans being able to protect themselves against White supremacists

That was left to authors and legislators who wrote and passed the 13th and 14th amendments, which extended the protections of US citizenship to blacks, either newly freed, or descendants of generations of free blacks.

30 posted on 05/17/2005 3:15:41 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: section9
Try that again

This expert on Soviet history obviously hasn’t studied enough American history. There is no evidence that the Founding Fathers – or the Fondling Fathers, as I like to call some of them – were in the least bit worried about African-Americans being able to protect themselves against White supremacists

That was left to authors and legislators who wrote and passed the 13th and 14th amendments, which extended the protections of US citizenship to blacks, either newly freed, or descendants of generations of free blacks.

31 posted on 05/17/2005 3:17:47 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: section9
Few things are as repulsive as Black conservatives trying to advance the Republican agenda by mischaracterizing the Civil Rights Movement or distorting history.

I know what he means, like when that repulsican Algore Sr. got up and filibustered the Civil Rights amendments of 1965, and when that racist republican who is still in the senate, Robert Byrd did the same. Hell he was even a member of the KLAN! And all those republican governors in the south used the police and fire dept. to disenfranchise all those black voters.... hideous! It was the kind hearted democrats who helped set up the NAACP, and now the GOP has turned them into a racist organization. All these so-called "house blacks" just don't know the true history of this nation. {/BIZARRO-WORLD}

32 posted on 05/17/2005 3:24:07 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: infidel29; mhking; Trueblackman

This is of a piece with other pieces within the black press. Establishment black leaders have latched themselves onto the patronage bandwagon of the Democratic Party. Given that fact, they have to work within the apparatus of that party. That means the Clintons.

Rice upsets that applecart. Should she run and should she win, their entire arrangement collapses like the house of cards that it is.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

33 posted on 05/17/2005 3:28:08 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: section9

Ho hum. Another liberal trots out the tired horse; any black person who isn't liberal is not really black, doesn't understand the 'truth of the black condition' (defined by liberals as eternal victimhood where anything the ), or is a 'house ...'. This dweeb hits the cliche' from all angles. It's just boring to read these guys because every single one says exactly the same tripe.


34 posted on 05/17/2005 3:33:28 PM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: section9

The Washington Post profile revealed, “On both sides of her family, Condi Rice is descended from white slave owners as well as black slaves; and the slaves were mostly ‘house slaves,’ as opposed to ‘field slaves,’ according to Connie Rice [Condoleezza’s cousin].”




Certainly, this bomb throwing dwarf is not worth the time of the read; but he cites the Washington Post article captioned above, the clear implication of which is that Condi’s lineage descends from “white slave owners”. In other words, Condi just looks Black, but in reality, she’s the direct descendant of Simon Legree.

This tried and true reflex vilification of Black conservatives as “Uncle Toms” has always worked to marginalize and stifle Black conservatism. BUT, NOT THIS TIME!

Dr. Rice is no “token”; she’s the real deal- intelligent, educated, qualified and, at present, arguably the most powerful woman in the world. But, more to the point, she has an iron will; she has the grit and spirit of a champion.

She’s not going to cower in the face of this vitriol and character assassination. She will slap them down, dismantle the DEMS “Berlin Wall” , and ultimately, lead a political realignment not seen since Lincoln.


35 posted on 05/17/2005 3:57:39 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: section9
Few things are as repulsive as Black conservatives trying to advance the Republican agenda by mischaracterizing the Civil Rights Movement or distorting history.

This guy is just plain wrong he is the reason why my tag-line exists. Also his history is wrong because the United States is the only country that I know of that fought a Civil War to end slavery. I don't want to hear that states rights stuff either b/c it was over the states right to have slaves as property. If not for the Republicans there would not have been a 13,14, and 15th amendments. Oh by the way George Curry 90 years after this country came into existence slavery was ended. People like Farrakhan like to spout the 400 years of oppression but most of that was when this country was owned and operated by British. My great grandfather held off the clan in the early part of last century with a shotgun, pistol and a Winchester and that was way before 1960's Birmingham. America is still the greatest country for any black person to live in. Sure it has its faults but black Americans have the highest standard of living of any Africanized people in the World! Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it George Curry!

36 posted on 05/17/2005 4:09:15 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Black & white liberals practice intellectual apartheid when it comes to black conservatives!)
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To: section9
I>Rice’s exploitation of the Civil Rights Movement is even more notable because her middle-class parents, by her own admission, were not active in the movement.
"my father and his friends defended our community in 1962 and 1963 against White nightriders by going to the head of the community, the head of the cul-de-sac, and sitting there armed. And so I’m very concerned about any abridgement of the Second Amendment…”

Individuals asserting they will not be victims is not "active in the movement"

"active in the movement" is identification with the group victimhood.

37 posted on 05/17/2005 4:46:54 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity - MLK)
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To: glorgau

This is true!


38 posted on 05/17/2005 5:09:27 PM PDT by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: section9
George Curry's attacks on Ms. Rice are due to jealousy, among other things. Condeleeza Rice is far more powerful than he is. She is of superior intellect. Has more soul in just her pinky finger than he'll ever have throughout his entire body, and has exhibited more manhood than he could ever hope to possess.

Curry feels threatened and inadequate, and responds to this accordingly....like a whimpering child.
39 posted on 05/17/2005 5:53:42 PM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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To: section9
This expert on Soviet history obviously hasn’t studied enough American history. There is no evidence that the Founding Fathers – or the Fondling Fathers, as I like to call some of them – were in the least bit worried about African-Americans being able to protect themselves against White supremacists

What a maroon! The wisdom of the Founding Fathers, despite this idjit's attitude toward them, was that it didn't matter WHO you are, if you are an American citizen, you DO have the right to defend yourself.

His bias against conservatives in general, and Black conservatives in particular, is glaring.

40 posted on 05/17/2005 9:33:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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