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Do-It-Yourself Electrical Repairs May Get a Lot More Expensive (UNBELIEVABLE)
Berkeley Daily Planet ^ | 5/13/05 | RICHARD BRENNEMAN

Posted on 05/16/2005 8:04:36 PM PDT by Brian Mosely

At least when it comes to electrical things, do-it-your-selfers may find their craft considerably more expensive.

Starting Aug. 1, when the 2004 California Electrical Codes automatically take effect, residents will have to apply for a city building permits to replace or add wall, porch and ceiling lamps, light switches, electric receptacles, and other common do-it-yourself chores.

So changing that noisy electrical switch with a quieter mercury switch will cost a lot more. Besides the costs of the new switch, there’ll be the $81 basic permit fee plus an additional surcharge of $2.15 for each receptacle, outlet or switch and—if you want to add more—$21.50 for altering or changing wiring.

Under the current city code, such small changes can be made without permits and inspections; starting Aug. 1, not so.

The exemptions are currently allowed under Chapter 19.30.080 of the city electrical code. City Building Officer Joan McQuarrie said there’s a question about whether or not the exemptions could be incorporated into the new code.

“We’re looking into that,” said Deputy City Attorney Zach Cowan. “Generally cities are allowed to adopt more restrictive findings based on local conditions, but not less restrictive. But it never hurts to ask.”

McQuarrie said that from her perspective, she wasn’t aware of any problems from the previously exempted home repairs, “but that doesn’t mean there couldn’t be in the future. I think it’s reasonable to exclude them, but we are bound by state law.”

Activities which will no longer be permitted without a permit after Aug. 1 include:

• Installing hard-wired sound, intercom and communication systems.

• Connecting portable motors and appliances to permanent suitable receptacles that were previously installed.

• Installing wiring for temporary theater, television and film sets.

• Repair or replacement of fixed motors, transformers and appliances of the same type and in the same location.

The Housing Advisory Commission (HAC) considered the revisions during their meeting May 5 and recommended that the city adopt the new code while retaining the current exemptions.

Should it turn out that the exemptions can’t be retained, HAC recommended that the city inform residents of the new requirements. The final decision is up to the Berkeley City Council, which is slated to vote on the new code during their June 24 meeting.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: extortion; fasciststate; govwatch; privacy; propertyrights; realestate; shakedown
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How many permits does it take to change a light bulb in California?
1 posted on 05/16/2005 8:04:37 PM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely

The final decision is up to the Berkeley City Council,

--Berkeley, that explains it all, why be surprised? lol


2 posted on 05/16/2005 8:07:26 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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"HAC recommended that the city inform residents of the new requirements. The final decision is up to the Berkeley City Council, which is slated to vote on the new code during their June 24 meeting.

What about the residents decision on whether to inform ANYONE of when they replace light switch or anything else in their house?

3 posted on 05/16/2005 8:07:53 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Brian Mosely

How will they enforce it?


4 posted on 05/16/2005 8:08:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Your children will be encouraged to turn you in for performing non-permitted repairs to your light switches....


5 posted on 05/16/2005 8:12:30 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: Brian Mosely

It is Berkeley after all.

But, shouldn't they also have to drop to their knees and invoke the blessing of the Mother Earth Spirit?


6 posted on 05/16/2005 8:12:35 PM PDT by EagleClaw
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To: Brian Mosely

Memo to self... reason #457 not to move to California...


7 posted on 05/16/2005 8:13:53 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

I suppose people will have to smuggle electrical components in.
The day I ain't bright enough to replace a receptacle, someone shoot Me, please.
At 62, I've never hired an electrician or a plumber, only paid a mechanic a couple of times when special equipment was needed, not about to start now.


8 posted on 05/16/2005 8:15:03 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: Brian Mosely

• Installing hard-wired sound, intercom and communication systems.

So forget about installing that home theater.

• Connecting portable motors and appliances to permanent suitable receptacles that were previously installed.

You can no longer plug that grinder into the wall, nor the electric drill (portable motors or appliances). If you want to get really anal (and why not, this is CA after all), appliances could mean a toaster, so you now need a permit to plug in a toaster to an existing outlet.

• Installing wiring for temporary theater, television and film sets.

You can no longer connect up speaker wires to your stereo, if I read this right.

• Repair or replacement of fixed motors, transformers and appliances of the same type and in the same location.

You can't replace that old bench grinder with a new one, to say nothing of the motor in the washing machine.


9 posted on 05/16/2005 8:15:44 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Brian Mosely

So, what's the problem? Just get into your time machine when you do the next electrical job and set the date for pre-August 2005.

The inspectors in my neck of the woods are ratcheting things up as well. A 240v service in my garage now needs a separate grounding rod, main and main retaining clip. The can I hung on the wall last year before the snow is now obsolete. Last time I checked, the two grounds in the house system were functioning too. Looks to me like the Unions want more work and feel crowded by DIY'ers.


10 posted on 05/16/2005 8:16:00 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Fun Fact: Did you know that NEWSWEEK has killed more people than Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile?)
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Berkeley better beef up the fire department.


11 posted on 05/16/2005 8:16:17 PM PDT by mmercier (men of steel, men of power)
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To: Brian Mosely

Good grief! No wonder everybody in CA is moving to Montana. It'll now cost those poor suckers a couple of hundred $ just to install a dimmer switch. What Californians really need to do is install a dimmer switch on the ridiculous state assembly of theirs for having codified this bit of larcenous lunacy and shut 'em down for good.


12 posted on 05/16/2005 8:16:52 PM PDT by leilani
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

SWAMPSNIPER wrote:

I suppose people will have to smuggle electrical components in.
The day I ain't bright enough to replace a receptacle, someone shoot Me, please.
At 62, I've never hired an electrician or a plumber, only paid a mechanic a couple of times when special equipment was needed, not about to start now.

--> I hear you! Ditto, but don't forget, this is Berkeley California we're talking about, they have more money than brains.... The city council obviously does....


13 posted on 05/16/2005 8:18:20 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: Graybeard58
My first thought was the good old IBEW was up to something, but I see no requirement for a electrical contractor. At $80.00 plus for a permit, the City(s) will make a few bucks, but more than likely it will trigger a new appraisal of the property. With California's run up in housing prices: Wow !
The down side is a insurance company can refuse to pay for anything, even remotely connected to "Unpermitted" work.
Glad I'm outta there.
14 posted on 05/16/2005 8:18:56 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

They keep telling Us how smart they are, go figure!


15 posted on 05/16/2005 8:19:27 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: Graybeard58
How will they enforce it?

Well, let's see, at the rate things are going, here's one possible future scenario: Every new light fixture, appliance, etc. that's affected by this regulation will have an embedded tracking chip. It emits a frequency that can be picked up by government vans that roam through neighborhoods. Only licensed professional electricians will be able to turn off the chip...

16 posted on 05/16/2005 8:20:04 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: Brian Mosely

The next step, of course, is to outlaw the sale of the offending items - or at least require a person to show a license if he wants to purchase a light switch.


17 posted on 05/16/2005 8:20:50 PM PDT by BobL
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To: LibFreeOrDie
"Every new light fixture, appliance, etc. that's affected by this regulation will have an embedded tracking chip."

Don't laugh, our psycho toll-road junkie governor (Republican Rick Perry) is trying to get RFIDs embedded in EVERY single car registration sticker. He says it's to find insurance cheats, but we all know it's to track us, so that he can toll us, and punish us if we drive at the wrong times.

Don't you love it.
18 posted on 05/16/2005 8:23:30 PM PDT by BobL
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yea, living in the "woods" is becoming more and more attractive each year. :)


19 posted on 05/16/2005 8:24:06 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: Brian Mosely

I wonder how many illegal aliens will comply with these permits?


20 posted on 05/16/2005 8:24:26 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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