Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

How many permits does it take to change a light bulb in California?
1 posted on 05/16/2005 8:04:37 PM PDT by Brian Mosely
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
To: Brian Mosely

The final decision is up to the Berkeley City Council,

--Berkeley, that explains it all, why be surprised? lol


2 posted on 05/16/2005 8:07:26 PM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely
"HAC recommended that the city inform residents of the new requirements. The final decision is up to the Berkeley City Council, which is slated to vote on the new code during their June 24 meeting.

What about the residents decision on whether to inform ANYONE of when they replace light switch or anything else in their house?

3 posted on 05/16/2005 8:07:53 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

How will they enforce it?


4 posted on 05/16/2005 8:08:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

It is Berkeley after all.

But, shouldn't they also have to drop to their knees and invoke the blessing of the Mother Earth Spirit?


6 posted on 05/16/2005 8:12:35 PM PDT by EagleClaw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Memo to self... reason #457 not to move to California...


7 posted on 05/16/2005 8:13:53 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

• Installing hard-wired sound, intercom and communication systems.

So forget about installing that home theater.

• Connecting portable motors and appliances to permanent suitable receptacles that were previously installed.

You can no longer plug that grinder into the wall, nor the electric drill (portable motors or appliances). If you want to get really anal (and why not, this is CA after all), appliances could mean a toaster, so you now need a permit to plug in a toaster to an existing outlet.

• Installing wiring for temporary theater, television and film sets.

You can no longer connect up speaker wires to your stereo, if I read this right.

• Repair or replacement of fixed motors, transformers and appliances of the same type and in the same location.

You can't replace that old bench grinder with a new one, to say nothing of the motor in the washing machine.


9 posted on 05/16/2005 8:15:44 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

So, what's the problem? Just get into your time machine when you do the next electrical job and set the date for pre-August 2005.

The inspectors in my neck of the woods are ratcheting things up as well. A 240v service in my garage now needs a separate grounding rod, main and main retaining clip. The can I hung on the wall last year before the snow is now obsolete. Last time I checked, the two grounds in the house system were functioning too. Looks to me like the Unions want more work and feel crowded by DIY'ers.


10 posted on 05/16/2005 8:16:00 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Fun Fact: Did you know that NEWSWEEK has killed more people than Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Berkeley better beef up the fire department.


11 posted on 05/16/2005 8:16:17 PM PDT by mmercier (men of steel, men of power)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Good grief! No wonder everybody in CA is moving to Montana. It'll now cost those poor suckers a couple of hundred $ just to install a dimmer switch. What Californians really need to do is install a dimmer switch on the ridiculous state assembly of theirs for having codified this bit of larcenous lunacy and shut 'em down for good.


12 posted on 05/16/2005 8:16:52 PM PDT by leilani
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

The next step, of course, is to outlaw the sale of the offending items - or at least require a person to show a license if he wants to purchase a light switch.


17 posted on 05/16/2005 8:20:50 PM PDT by BobL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

I wonder how many illegal aliens will comply with these permits?


20 posted on 05/16/2005 8:24:26 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

On the surface this appears to be simple pandering to the interests of licensed electricians, however I can see both sides here. Some home electrical tasks can be simple, if you know what you are doing, but there are many who think they do but they don't. The difference between #12 and #14 wire can mean the difference between nothing exciting and coming home to a smoldering ruin. Self professed "home fixeruppers" are the worst, while the best are those with extensive practical experience like on farms where electricity is treated with respect. I object to draconian laws that hamper otherwise technically adept people from performing routine home electrical maintenance and repair, but I also object to paying a homeowner's insurance premium that went up because some jerk thought he knew more about installing a load center and jacuzzi than a licensed electrician. An equitable situation for all parties involved lies somewhere in the middle.


21 posted on 05/16/2005 8:25:00 PM PDT by SpaceBar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

ping 4 latter.


22 posted on 05/16/2005 8:25:23 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Guess the Californians will have to purchase switches, receptacles, and outlets from ebay to circumvent the power nazis.


23 posted on 05/16/2005 8:26:31 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Will it be illegal to show certain episodes of "This Old House" in California?


27 posted on 05/16/2005 8:30:23 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Sheesh! Power to the Socialists. Convert Home Depots to gulags! /sarcasm


28 posted on 05/16/2005 8:31:34 PM PDT by PGalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Umm, this is not clear. is this just for Berkeley or all of California? This is the first I heard of it.


29 posted on 05/16/2005 8:32:08 PM PDT by DBrow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely
Starting Aug. 1, when the 2004 California Electrical Codes automatically take effect

Is this for real?

According to 2004 California Electrical Code

"The 2004 California Electrical Code (California Code of Regulations, Title 24, Part 3) applies to all occupancies that applied for a building permit on or after August 1, 2005, and remains in effect until the effective date of the next edition."

So, it seems that the 2004 code doesn't apply to an existing home that doesn't apply for a new building permit (most homes that aren't being remodeled).

30 posted on 05/16/2005 8:34:23 PM PDT by heleny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Just do it and don't tell anyone, remember SSS, Shoot, Shovel, Shut-up. Well, maybe not exactly, we need to come up with the electronic equivalent here but you'll get the idea. B-)


31 posted on 05/16/2005 8:34:50 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Brian Mosely

Will smoking pot still be legal there?


36 posted on 05/16/2005 8:40:36 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson