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Proposed NJ Law: Seize Homes w/Illegal Guns
World Net Daily ^ | May 10, 2005 | Ron Strom

Posted on 05/15/2005 4:57:55 AM PDT by publiusF27

A New Jersey state assemblyman has introduced a bill that would allow the government to seize the home or car of anyone whose property contains an illegal firearm.

The legislation, sponsored by Assemblyman Louis Manzo, D-Jersey City, authorizes the forfeiture of "motor vehicle, building or premise" if a firearm is found in it that is not possessed legally per state law – "even if the firearm was not possessed by the owner of the motor vehicle, building or premise," states a summary of the bill, A3998. The legislation was introduced Thursday.

Manzo pointed out his bill extends government power now reserved for targeting those in possession of illegal drugs.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: abuse; assetforfeiture; bang; banglist; communistdemocrats; donutwatch; drugs; fascist; forfeiture; govwatch; guns; libertarians; naziism; nazisob; newjersey; sopranostan; stalinistproposal; wodlist
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Set a precedent in one place, it gets applied in another. Who would have thought it?

Civil asset forfeiture abuse has led to policing for profit in the drug war, and now that precedent is reaching out to cover guns.

Maybe Tom Paine was on to something...

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine
1 posted on 05/15/2005 4:57:55 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: publiusF27

Yet another reason for not living in NJ.


2 posted on 05/15/2005 4:59:33 AM PDT by tahotdog
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To: publiusF27

Hate your neighbor? Toss a gun on his property and call the police.


3 posted on 05/15/2005 5:01:02 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A government-funded artist is an incompetent whore)
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To: publiusF27

Assemblyman Louis Manzo has the right to remain silent.


4 posted on 05/15/2005 5:01:15 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: publiusF27

At first I thought this said homes with illegal immigrants!


5 posted on 05/15/2005 5:01:17 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: publiusF27

BTTT


6 posted on 05/15/2005 5:03:47 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The noisiest people in the libraries these days are the librarians. (battlegearboat))
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To: tahotdog

NYPD has a sign on the BQE touting the thousands of cars taken from drunk drivers--BEFORE they were convicted! I laugh when I hear someone say we live in "a nation of law". No we don't and gov't knows it and likes it that way.


7 posted on 05/15/2005 5:04:46 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Squantos; SLB; Vigilantcitizen; Lion Den Dan; Eaker

Just damn ping.


8 posted on 05/15/2005 5:06:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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At first I thought this said homes with illegal immigrants!

In New Jersey, NAH! If Sopranostan ever decided to seize the initiative on that issue, North Newark, Belleville, Paterson, Passaic, Dover, Freehold, Vineland, Bridgeton, and parts of Jersey City would become ghost towns.

9 posted on 05/15/2005 5:06:49 AM PDT by Clemenza (Senator, my offer to you is this: NOTHING!)
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To: publiusF27

Asset seizure without due process.

Another benefit of the War on (some) Drugs.

A narc is just a gun grabber and child grabber on a differnt beat.


10 posted on 05/15/2005 5:11:11 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: publiusF27

That's...

LOUIS M. MANZO (D)
107 West Side Ave.
Jersey City, NJ 07305
PHONE NUMBER: (201) 309-0770

11 posted on 05/15/2005 5:12:56 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: publiusF27
That RAT watches the TV show: THE SHIELD 'cause this was a plot line a few weeks ago!
12 posted on 05/15/2005 5:16:46 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: All

I love watching the keywords that get added to threads here. BANG! LOL!


13 posted on 05/15/2005 5:17:42 AM PDT by publiusF27
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Thanks, Martin! I never heard of the guy. Not surprising, though, that a D would follow the trail blazed by so many drug warriors wearing an R...


14 posted on 05/15/2005 5:19:34 AM PDT by publiusF27
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Toss a gun on his property and call the police.

Toss it onto Assemblyman Louis Manzo's property..............LOL

15 posted on 05/15/2005 5:27:05 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: thoughtomator

That was my first thought.

My second was this:

An armed thug breaks into your home. You own a registered firearm, get the drop on him and capture him. His firearm was illegal.

The city you are in is going through a budget crisis. When the city cops report that a burglar was arrested in your home with an illegal firearm, they seize your house and sell it.


16 posted on 05/15/2005 5:33:52 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: publiusF27

Don't like your landlord ...


17 posted on 05/15/2005 5:36:23 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: publiusF27

Boycott NJ and anything that is produced there. They are a bunch of left-wing fascist.


18 posted on 05/15/2005 5:40:15 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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"even if the firearm was not possessed by the owner of the motor vehicle, building or premise,"

Say what? It’s bad enough that local governments are searching for more ways to confiscate property – but this is too much!
19 posted on 05/15/2005 5:48:34 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: thoughtomator

The city wants a nice property? Send in an informant with an illegally possessed firearm.


20 posted on 05/15/2005 5:49:41 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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