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Mexico furious at tough US law on migrants
Financial Times ^ | May 13 2005 | John Authers in Mexico City and Edward Alden in Washington

Posted on 05/13/2005 2:29:12 PM PDT by seastay

Mexico has reacted furiously to a bill signed into law by the US this week that would fund a border wall and prevent illegal Mexican migrants from obtaining US driving licences.

President Vicente Fox said he would lodge a diplomatic complaint, and was considering complaints to multilateral bodies if Mexico could not unable to resolve the problem bilaterally.

In the US, leaders of the Mexican community threatened to strike to send a message to US employers that they could not survive without cheap Mexican labour.

Santiago Creel, Mexico's interior secretary, said the “Real ID” law was “negative, inconvenient, and obstructionist”.

“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,” he said. “Taking away the possibility of obtaining driving licences for people who are working in legal jobs, who pay their taxes there, who send remittances home here, seems to us to be an extreme measure, particularly given the new understanding that we thought we had after the re-election of President Bush.”

Andrés Manuel López Obrador, mayor of Mexico City, supported Mr Fox's stance. He said the problem of growing immigration could be “resolved by encouraging development in Mexico and Central America, not by building walls and using the border control”.

Since 2002, Mexico has adopted a popular policy of issuing undocumented labourers with consular identity cards, which are accepted as proof of identity by many US states for issuing driving licences, and for opening bank accounts. Under the new law, this would no longer be possible. The immigration provisions approved by Congress were attached by House Republicans to a bill that will provide more than $80bn for the war in Iraq this year, giving lawmakers little choice but to support it.

The White House, which at first opposed the new restrictions, supported them when it became clear they would pass Congress in spite of administration opposition.

President George W. Bush has said he wants to deal with illegal immigration by creating a temporary guest worker programme. But many Republicans are using the anxiety about terrorism to push for a crackdown on illegal immigrants.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; creel; creelisanass; driverslicense; gangs; healthcare; immigrantlist; nofreebies; protectourvote; toobad; vicenteisapuss; voterfraud
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To: Peach

Yes it was 1 Billion dollars of our TAX money -- for illegal ALiens!! Time for a march on Washington!!! This is pure BS!!!


21 posted on 05/13/2005 2:43:17 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: seastay

Tough border laws????


22 posted on 05/13/2005 2:43:19 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


23 posted on 05/13/2005 2:44:06 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: seastay

Mexico pissed ? GOOD.


24 posted on 05/13/2005 2:44:17 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: seastay

“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,” he said. “Taking away the possibility of obtaining driving licences for people who are working in legal jobs, who pay their taxes there, who send remittances home here, seems to us to be an extreme measure, particularly given the new understanding that we thought we had after the re-election of President Bush.”

What did I miss... I didn't know that there was a "new understanding" that Bush proported. Could he mean Open Borders and Amnesty? Not!!!!


25 posted on 05/13/2005 2:44:48 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: All
For "Thunder on the Border," click this picture:


26 posted on 05/13/2005 2:45:28 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Mr. Mojo

“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,”

I have a wall around my house, what is he thinking this is common for California, most every neighbor here has a wall around their home. You would think this guy was from the north east or something. Homes in the north east I have seen have no walls. Funny thing here in California those who have the most walls, neighborhoods with brick and iron gates out to the street surrounding their yards are usually Hispanic !


27 posted on 05/13/2005 2:45:38 PM PDT by seastay
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To: seastay
"President Vicente Fox said he would lodge a diplomatic complaint, and was considering complaints to multilateral bodies if Mexico could not unable to resolve the problem bilaterally"

You and what army? BRING IT.

28 posted on 05/13/2005 2:45:46 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Jeb Pilate and the Republican Congress: Stood by while someone died)
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To: seastay

"Good fences make good neighbors" or so says Robert Frost


29 posted on 05/13/2005 2:46:34 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: seastay
Santiago Creel, Mexico's interior secretary, said the “Real ID” law was “negative, inconvenient, and obstructionist”

Sauron snarls...

30 posted on 05/13/2005 2:46:43 PM PDT by Regulator (how dare you stop my army, he wails)
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To: seastay
particularly given the new understanding that we thought we had after the re-election of President Bush.”

I wonder why the American people were never told about this new understanding? President Bush mentioned immigration once in February of 2004 and the reaction from his base was so virulent that he did not mention it again until one sentence in the third debate.

This Mexican must be under the mistaken impression that the USA is a dictatorship like Mexico.

31 posted on 05/13/2005 2:46:49 PM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: seastay

I have to wonder what kind of agreements Bush and Fox have that makes Fox think he can go to these courts. Could it be that Bush is breaking some of these agreements. All of these meetings that Bush and Fox have are secret to the American taxpayer. I have never read NAFTA fully, but an agreement could very well be in NAFTA.


32 posted on 05/13/2005 2:47:17 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Mr. Mojo

As Robert Frost said, "Good fences make good neighbors."


33 posted on 05/13/2005 2:47:30 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Mr. Mojo
“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,” he said.

Except for his southern border of course.

34 posted on 05/13/2005 2:47:57 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: seastay

Bush has gone out of his way to be nice to Vincente Fox ever since he was elected. And Vincent Fox has done nothing but make trouble for Bush ever since he was elected.

Bush needs to stay on the right side of Mexican American voters, or they will go back to voting for the Democrats. Other than that, he has absolutely no reason to worry about displeasing Fox.

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that Bush could tackle the Hispanic voter problem by clearly distinguishing between Mexican American citizens and Mexican illegals. Although it must be said that Pete Wilson tried to do that and lost California as a result.


35 posted on 05/13/2005 2:51:33 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: seastay

Oh My! [handwringing]

We have upset Vincente!

Oh mercy! Quick! Open the borders! We don't want Vincente mad at us!

[GW and Congress needs to open their eyes. Another major terrorist attack due to the lax border control, and GW and Congress will get early retirement as their legacies.]


36 posted on 05/13/2005 2:52:04 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ikka

I'm with you -- if the Real ID makes Fox furious, I am all for it. And it provides for building a wall too?? HellO, finally.


37 posted on 05/13/2005 2:52:39 PM PDT by bboop
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To: seastay
President George W. Bush has said he wants to deal with illegal immigration by creating a temporary guest worker programme.

I am totally against this as it would grant legal status to 11 million illegals. We have laws... let these people come into this county legally or not at all.

Asking the Border Patrol to stand down or ignore a criminal act is like asking the Coast Guard to ignore that drug boat... one more won't hurt. W had better get himself some new advisors on this subject before the makes Border Patrol and Coast Guard irrelevant.

38 posted on 05/13/2005 2:53:01 PM PDT by Luke (CPO, USCG (Ret))
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To: gubamyster
Mexico has reacted furiously

Maybe they'll boycott us and cut off our supply of willing hardworkers.

39 posted on 05/13/2005 2:55:13 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Peach
a bill was signed that went into effect this week that provides for taxpayers to pay back medical providers for medical care to illegals

That was the Medicare Prescription Drug bill that many of us were so furious about last year (and we got plenty of flames for it). It was little more than a pay-off to drug companies and insurance companies. Those defending it last year (because it was Republican) didn't bother to read any of the contents. And the major portions that will cost the taxpayers don't even start until 2007.

It did provide $1Billion to hospitals for the care of illegals.
40 posted on 05/13/2005 2:57:19 PM PDT by TomGuy
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