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Vegans face abuse charges
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12 May, 2005 | Irene Hsiao

Posted on 05/12/2005 9:34:27 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy

A Scottsdale couple have been charged with child abuse after their three children, who police said were put on a type of vegan diet, were found malnourished and severely underweight.

The couple’s 3-year-old daughter weighed 12 pounds when she was taken to Phoenix Children’s Hospital last month after apparently having a seizure, said Scottsdale detective Sam Bailey. All three children remained hospitalized Wednesday, Bailey said.

The parents, Blair Parker, 34, and Kimu Parker, 35, were arrested April 28, and on Wednesday were each being held on $90,000 bail in a Maricopa County jail.

The Parkers were charged by a direct complaint from the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office, according to court records. Bill FitzGerald, spokesman for the office, said the case is expected to go before a grand jury for possible indictment.

Police said that after Blair Parker took his youngest girl to the hospital, a social worker contacted police.

At the couple’s home in the 300 block of North Miller Road, police found the two other emaciated children. The 9-year-old boy weighed 29 pounds and stood at 3 feet 4 inches tall, while the 11-year-old girl was 3 feet 9 inches tall and weighed 36.5 pounds, a police report said.

Police said the Parkers’ house was immaculate, "organized" and "free of clutter." The refrigerator was stocked with fresh vegetables, roots and mixed grains.

Both older children, who were home-schooled, were well-spoken and welleducated for their ages, though officers thought the children looked young for their ages, the report said.

Dr. Janice Piatt, a pediatrician at Phoenix Children’s Hospital, later told police, "I have never seen such stunting before except maybe in Africa. It was beyond severe malnutrition."

Yet Bailey said the couple "weren’t consciously starving their kids."

He noted that the children’s mother also was thin — she weighed 115 pounds and was 5 foot 6 inches tall.

"She was extremely skinny but did not appear malnourished," the report said.

Blair Parker, who is 6 feet 5 inches tall and weighs 200 pounds, told detectives his family was on vegan diets and don’t consume animal or dairy products.

Kimu Parker told police the family mainly eats rice, beans and vegetables. She said the two older children were small for their ages because they didn’t have "animal steroids and other products that the average person consumes."

None of the children have been vaccinated, and the family believes in holistic medicine and were in contact with a doctor in Wisconsin who would explain to them how to treat their children after diagnosing them, the report said.

The couple, who have read extensively on health issues, said the girls’ bodies don’t absorb protein and that the holistic doctor diagnosed the problem, according to the report. They supplemented the 3-year-old’s diet with a product that was supposed to help absorb the protein.

In general, vegan diets should be safe for children as long as they get the proper nutrients, two Valley nutrition specialists said.

"With regard to whether it’s appropriate for a child — there are healthy children who eat vegan all the time," said Terry Hughes of Gentle Strength Cooperative in Tempe.

Karen S. Moses, a registered dietitian at Arizona State University, said it’s possible to raise children on vegan diets successfully.

"People can be very conscientious about how they feed their children and can do a vegan diet without compromising the child’s health. It takes a lot of work. You really have to be conscientious about protein and calcium. You have to be really thinking about nutrients in a way that other people may not."

Contact Irene Hsiao by email, or phone (480)-970-2324


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: abuse; animalrights; childabuse; children; diet; econuts; health; hippies; homeschooling; junkscience; kooks; leftists; liberalism; malnurishment; mentaldisorder; petafreaks; pseudoscience; starvation; vegans
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To: starfish923

"Vegans can't be expected to think straight -- they are nuturitionally deprived. Their brains simply are not getting the nutriton they need to think. "

I would suspect vitamin B-12 deficiencies.


261 posted on 05/12/2005 11:43:34 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (I live in Minnesota, I run a business in Minnesota, but I remain a TEXAN!)
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To: quack

That's a very specific genetic disorder, in which even tradiional staples of vegan diets, like beans and peas, will result in mental retardation, seizures, etc. I don't doubt that affected individuals are healthier if they don't eat any animal products, than if they did (though probably not as healthy as if they didn't have the disorder, and could eat normally). I'd be really surprised if your daughter isn't getting regular dietary supplements of some kind, of synthetic and/or animal origin.


262 posted on 05/12/2005 11:43:48 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: sticker

There are plenty of vegetarians who are Republicans. While most I know aren't vegans but lacto-ovo vegetarians (myself included), you don't have to be a whacko lib to live without meat.

I was brought up Seventh-day Adventist, a fairly conservative religion that advocates good health practices, including no alcohol, smoking, preferably no meat.

I can't stand the stuff myself, having been brought up in an SDA ghetto where it wasn't really served anywhere. I made sure my kids like it, though I don't cook it at home, however.

As for the vegans, the few of those I know are more religious fanatics than hippy-lib types. If they vote at all they vote conservative.


263 posted on 05/12/2005 11:53:16 AM PDT by Spyder (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: cyborg

A nice tender piece of rib eye steak is pretty easy for a 3 year old to chew up. :)


264 posted on 05/12/2005 11:53:49 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (The same thing we do every day, Pinky. We're going to TAKE OVER THE WORLD! Countdown to #8)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

She is.She has to drink a "phe" free formula.It's synthetic.
You'd be surprised how healthy these two are.She's consistantly on A-B honor roll attending private school,also.


265 posted on 05/12/2005 11:55:08 AM PDT by quack
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To: Spyder

There are healthy ways to eat meat and to not eat it.


266 posted on 05/12/2005 12:01:05 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: RockinRight

Agreed entirely. My husband took most of his masters degree in nutrition (prior to dental school) at Loma Linda University. They prefer the vegetarian lifestyle, and there are ways to get the necessary nutrients through combined proteins, but in general adopting a vegan attitude for children (particularly with the poorly educated) is almost as bad an idea as putting your 2yo on the Atkins diet.


267 posted on 05/12/2005 12:09:31 PM PDT by Spyder (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: HungarianGypsy

http://www.rawfriends.com/updates.htm


268 posted on 05/12/2005 12:11:08 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: cyborg
at least no child of mine will ever eat steak or drink cow milk either

Wanna bet on it?

269 posted on 05/12/2005 12:27:26 PM PDT by 11Bush (If the shootin' don't start soon, I'll have to mount the Ma-Duece on my wheelchair.)
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To: cyborg; redhead


270 posted on 05/12/2005 12:27:42 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
People in biblical times didn't live very long

And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years -- Genesis 25:7

And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated. -- Deut. 34:7

Shall I go on?

271 posted on 05/12/2005 12:27:50 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: 11Bush

Not while in my house they won't :-)


272 posted on 05/12/2005 12:29:08 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: HungarianGypsy

"Kimu and Blair"

A lot of times the names tell you everything you need to know.


273 posted on 05/12/2005 12:34:52 PM PDT by AbeKrieger
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To: SupplySider
I once saw a bumper sticker that said "Mowing is Murder".

Reminds me of the group that tries to save *endangered lawn grasses* from mowers by human blockades. Operation Fescue.

274 posted on 05/12/2005 12:37:51 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: Spyder

I knew a lady in my old neighborhood who's family lived in Africa during her childhood, so she was used to living as a vegetarian. She was actually a very large woman.


275 posted on 05/12/2005 12:43:10 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Walk Softly, For a Dream is Born)
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To: cyborg
Not while in my house they won't

Correction noted.

276 posted on 05/12/2005 12:44:04 PM PDT by 11Bush (If the shootin' don't start soon, I'll have to mount the Ma-Duece on my wheelchair.)
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To: Paul Atreides

ah but they will wear leather and suede. that is truly ironic to me.


277 posted on 05/12/2005 12:49:12 PM PDT by applpie
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To: HungarianGypsy

"Yet Bailey said the couple "weren’t consciously starving their kids."

I understand that. But how does that make this situation any less child abuse?


278 posted on 05/12/2005 12:51:49 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: applpie

you can raise vegan kids....lots of indian folks do it all the time. ug. i am a meat eater but i think you should include protein in the form of dairy, eggs, cheese, beans. these folks were just plain abusive if they had skinny kids.

not just vegans too but i used to have an acquaintance who was a zealous athlete and a NO FAT freak. i can remember her 9 year old daughter coming home late at night from gymnastics and she would give her plain pasta to eat. plain.


279 posted on 05/12/2005 12:52:19 PM PDT by applpie
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To: Search4Truth

one way of treating this illness, is by eating lots of meat


280 posted on 05/12/2005 12:56:43 PM PDT by since1868
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