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Pregnancy costs teacher her job
south bend tribune ^ | 05/11/05 | LOU MUMFORD

Posted on 05/11/2005 10:24:29 AM PDT by hoosierboy

BERRIEN SPRINGS -- At a meeting last week with school officials, Christine John was congratulated on her March marriage, John says.

Then, said the first-year kindergarten teacher at the Village Seventh-day Adventist Elementary School, she was asked why she was four months along in her pregnancy when she had been married just two months before.

John said the meeting ended when she was told her services were no longer necessary.

In a statement prepared by the Niles-based Edwin Bertram agency, she said she wasn't allowed to retrieve her belongings or return to the school during regular school hours.

"I was very surprised. Shocked,'' she said Tuesday. "I had no clue what the meeting was about.''

Now, the 24-year-old John is considering legal action. School officials said John wasn't fired but was placed on administrative leave.

Michael Nickless, communication director for the Michigan Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, released the following statement:

"The Seventh-day Adventist Church operates nearly 50 Christian schools in the state of Michigan. In these schools, we follow the teachings of Jesus as understood by the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

"Each of our teachers is issued a 'Ministry of Teaching' license. In our school system, our teachers are expected to be a positive spiritual example for our congregations and youth.

"When she (John) chose behavior contrary to those values, she was placed on administrative leave. Even though policy allows for immediate dismissal, out of compassion, her present contract continues to be honored and she will receive full pay and benefits until the contract expires.''

John said her contract with the school system runs through June 8. She questioned why she was singled out.

"Working there, I've seen a lot of things that were done that were against our policy and those people haven't been fired,'' she said.

A 2003 graduate of Seventh-day Adventist Andrews University in Berrien Springs, John, 24, said she hadn't encountered any disciplinary problems with her job until last week.

The Stevensville resident said she and her husband, whom she didn't identify, had been dating two-and-a-half years.

After she became pregnant, she said she talked to school Principal John Chen about taking a maternity leave.

"I never tried to hide the situation,'' she said.

At her meeting with Chen and two other administrators from the Lake Union Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, John said she was told premarital sex is an act strictly forbidden by the school system and the Seventh-day Adventist religion.

Whether she has legal recourse or not, she said she'll look next for a job "with people who accept me.''

It'll most likely be with a public school system, she added, rather than a private one.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: employmentatwill; pspl; school; teacher; workplace
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Interesting, I agree with the school, but my libertarian side says its none of their business. Open for your thoughts.
1 posted on 05/11/2005 10:24:29 AM PDT by hoosierboy
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Private school. She's probably signed a morality and decency pledge as part of her contract. I have no problem with it.


2 posted on 05/11/2005 10:26:06 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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I remember reading that in some cultures they will not let you wed unless you are pregnant.
3 posted on 05/11/2005 10:27:37 AM PDT by SF Republican
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She should have just lied about the length of her pregnancy, then had a two month "premature" delivery. Without getting her medical records, the school would have had no recourse.


4 posted on 05/11/2005 10:28:59 AM PDT by keepingtrack
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The libertarian side of you should say the employer can fire and hire whoever the hell they want. You as an outsider and the government needs to stay out of it.


5 posted on 05/11/2005 10:30:41 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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my libertarian side says its none of their business.

My libertarian side says they are free to hire whoever they want.

6 posted on 05/11/2005 10:32:05 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (BUSH KNEW!!! ...that democracy would take hold in the Middle East)
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Private school, she could have "covered it up" or whatever. She'll be welcome with open arms in our great public education system.


7 posted on 05/11/2005 10:32:54 AM PDT by Pondman88
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Ironically, she could have kept her mouth shut, gotten an abortion, and the school would have never known. (I'm not suggesting she should have, but rather presenting a scenario).

Depending on the strength of her state's laws - as well as the applicaton of them to religion-based employers - she may have a legit claim regarding gender bias.

8 posted on 05/11/2005 10:33:19 AM PDT by gdani
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... she could claim artificial insemination ...
9 posted on 05/11/2005 10:33:54 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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Why is this news? People lose jobs every day. Sniff, sniff - lawsuit? It's private RELIGIOUS school. What did she expect? There are some real idiots out there and apparently not just in the public schools.


10 posted on 05/11/2005 10:33:58 AM PDT by mlc9852
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Well, I think the libertarian position is the position of the school. They signed a contract and can hire or fire anyone they want and for any reason.


11 posted on 05/11/2005 10:34:09 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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It's a private school, so they should be free to do any idiotic thing they want.

In these schools, we follow the teachings of Jesus as understood by the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

Which understanding apparently doesn't include the concept of forgiveness, and requires immediate expulsion from fellowship of anyone who commits a sin, even if they repent of it.

I'm not a Christian, but I've read the New Testament, and am familiar with a wide range of interpretations of Christian teachings, and I think these folks are missing some key points. It's not as if this teacher was flouting the beliefs of this church, saying she didn't believe there was anything wrong with what she did. The take-home message from this school's administration is that if you get pregnant outside marriage, better get an abortion quickly and quietly, or we'll fire you (or expel you, or whatever's applicable).

12 posted on 05/11/2005 10:34:25 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Why - cause men can't get pregnant? Where is the gender bias here?


13 posted on 05/11/2005 10:34:50 AM PDT by mlc9852
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Gender bias? The same thing would have happened if it was a male impregnating a woman before they were married. I'm sorry, the government has absolutely no business getting involved in the hiring and firing process of religious institutions including private schools.


14 posted on 05/11/2005 10:35:10 AM PDT by bahblahbah
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One thing I did like about this story - she's working in this hostile environment, and now she's looking for ANOTHER JOB. Too many times, people sue to get some crappy job back, working for a boss they hate. Why?


15 posted on 05/11/2005 10:35:48 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (BUSH KNEW!!! ...that democracy would take hold in the Middle East)
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Too many Christians keep themselves occupied with hate rather than loving Jesus and living like Christians.

Once I heard a Lesbian complain about the boys and girls getting too chumy at school. Rather not say nothing at all if I can't make a compliment.

16 posted on 05/11/2005 10:36:49 AM PDT by Eska
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Until pretty recent times, it was customary in predominantly Catholic Austria (and perhaps Germany as well) for a couple to cohabitate until a child was born, and then marry. If the woman turned out to be "barren", no marriage would occur, and the man would move on. Practical-minded folk customs trumped official religious teachings.


17 posted on 05/11/2005 10:37:18 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Since she has already married the father, it seems a little overdone by the school. It is not like these "premature" births are that uncommon.

That said, since the school is private, it is their choice.

18 posted on 05/11/2005 10:37:22 AM PDT by writmeister
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Apparently the fact that this is a terrible example to the children means nothing to you. Actions have consequences. She made her choice, the school was well within their rights.

And I didn't see any "repentance". She is off to look for people who will "accept" her.


19 posted on 05/11/2005 10:37:57 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Don't retire to Florida. They murder their "useless eaters".)
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Best thing about non-government schools -- they can kick out students whose behavior is not in line with policy.

Corollary -- they can kick out teachers whose behavior is not in line with policy.

20 posted on 05/11/2005 10:38:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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