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Afghans riot over abuse of Koran
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 5/11/05

Posted on 05/11/2005 8:40:07 AM PDT by ppaul

Kabul: Three people were killed and at least 60 injured when police clashed with more than 5000 Afghans infuriated by reports that US soldiers had desecrated the Koran at Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

"We have two dead in our hospital and 47 wounded. Three of the people injured are in a serious condition," said Mohammed Ayob, deputy director of the public health hospital in the eastern city of Jalalabad.

"The medical university hospital, the second hospital of the city, has registered one dead and 12 wounded are in hospital. Some other people with light injuries were cared for and have been discharged."

Witnesses said police opened fire as the crowd rampaged through the city yesterday.

Jalalabad police chief Abdul Rehman said: "Initially the demonstrators were peaceful but then a group joined them and the mob turned violent."

Western security sources said the governor's office and those of several aid agencies including UNICEF, the United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund, were set on fire.

The US State Department said on Tuesday that the Pentagon was looking into a report in Newsweek magazine that interrogators at the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, kept copies of the Koran in toilets to annoy prisoners.

The protesters, which one police source in Jalalabad said numbered "maybe 10,000", also denounced US-backed President Hamid Karzai, shouting: "Death to America's allies" and "Death to Karzai" as well as "Death to Bush". US troops stationed in the city stayed in their base, witnesses said.

The reports have also infuriated close US ally Pakistan.

The mostly Muslim country's foreign ministry demanded an explanation while parliament and cricket hero-turned politician Imran Khan urged Washington to apologise.

Mr Karzai is due to visit the US this month where he said he will seek special long-term ties with Washington.

¡ The US and other countries have secretly sent scores of Islamist prisoners to Egypt since the mid-1990s, where they have likely been tortured, a human rights group said on Tuesday.

Human Rights Watch issued a 53-page report criticising Egypt as the world's main recipient of prisoners, including suspected Islamist militants believed to offer useful intelligence for the US war on terrorism.

The report, titled Black Hole: The Fate of Islamists Rendered to Egypt, identifies 61 people who have been transferred into Egyptian custody since 1994.



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; bullzogby; crymeariver; cultofdeath; givethemabeer; islam; islamofascism; jihad; korandesecration; koranimals; muslim; newsweak; newsweek; proterrorist; rop; trop; whiningmuslims
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To: speed_addiction

It is just another book. We as a country are not allowed to get upset when a U.S. flag is burned and I assume if a Bible were degregated.

That said I think using that tactic to loosen up prisoners is okay. It is a mind job. I think we should be feeding them ham sandwiches to boot. We are at war.

After I read one I deface every copy I can find.


21 posted on 05/11/2005 8:58:14 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: ppaul
Here's an idea.................Do not allow Qur'ans at GITMO.
22 posted on 05/11/2005 8:59:36 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: brownsfan

I don't think there's any evidence that the Germans worshipped Hitler in the way you would worship a god. Having a cult of personality is not akin to worship.


23 posted on 05/11/2005 8:59:59 AM PDT by keepingtrack
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To: ppaul

Received a call from my son this morning from J'bad and he absolutely insists no US soldiers involved in any of this unlike reported by Fox and others that American soldiers are shooting up the crowd. Soldiers have not left the PRT.


24 posted on 05/11/2005 9:00:24 AM PDT by eaglesiniowa
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To: poobear
So was reporting the incident.

Oh, I TOTALLY AGREE...and if we could edit posts here, I'd add that to mine. Totally agree...

25 posted on 05/11/2005 9:00:54 AM PDT by lsee
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To: ppaul
Anything to make the Muslim world believe that the US is the Great Satan.


Its not the people that are the problem its the Clerics.
26 posted on 05/11/2005 9:01:14 AM PDT by PureTrouble
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To: lsee
After all the trouble to avoid even the appearance of this conflict being a "holy war", this kind of religious insult was needlessly reckless.

I agree wholeheartedly! Newsweek shouldn't have done it.

27 posted on 05/11/2005 9:01:20 AM PDT by pgyanke (The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God.)
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To: killjoy
I wonder if those on this thread making light of this would have similar feelings of joy if the bible or torah was used in the same way.

I doubt it.
28 posted on 05/11/2005 9:01:32 AM PDT by speed_addiction (If you expect the worse out of everybody, you won't be disappointed___Frank Castle)
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To: ppaul

Received a call from my son this morning from J'bad and he absolutely insists no US soldiers involved in any of this unlike reported by Fox and others that American soldiers are shooting up the crowd. Soldiers have not left the PRT.


29 posted on 05/11/2005 9:01:39 AM PDT by eaglesiniowa
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To: ppaul

This is total propaganda fluff.

Yet the MSM are COMPLETE AND TOTAL SUCKERS for this.

CNN, the alphabets, MSNBC, and even Fox Reporters and Reporterettes expose their light weight brain power by reporting this seriously.

In that part of the world the Christian Bible is ILLEGAL and WILL be destroyed upon confiscation.


30 posted on 05/11/2005 9:02:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: ppaul

I think we should start rioting every time a Muslim kills a Christian; take Sudan for example.


31 posted on 05/11/2005 9:03:10 AM PDT by bella1 (red county, blue state)
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To: killjoy

I would be just as mad at Newsweek as I am. They have no business being the propaganda arm of our enemies-- regardless of our enemies' religious affiliation.


32 posted on 05/11/2005 9:03:32 AM PDT by pgyanke (The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God.)
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To: keepingtrack

The Koran represents a political ideology as much as it does a religion.

Slaves siezed in jihad must be taken to an "Islamic territory" to be divided up. The invasion into Spain was to establish a Western capital for Islam.

The Christian Bible makes no distinction of borders. Islam does.


33 posted on 05/11/2005 9:04:17 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: ppaul
Boy! Just wait till the liberal Afghans try to take the koran out of their court houses!
34 posted on 05/11/2005 9:05:41 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ppaul
They don't have a pot to piss in two thirds are illiterate and they go nuts over something like this?

Sorry excuse for a people!

35 posted on 05/11/2005 9:05:49 AM PDT by bubman
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To: One Proud Dad

The left had no problems with psy-op pressure techniques being used in Waco.

These terrorists (who quickly re-up with the movement when they are released) certainly deserve no better treatment than we gave our own citizens on their own property.


36 posted on 05/11/2005 9:06:26 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: ppaul

I wonder what Saudi Arabia does with any bibles they find in their country.


37 posted on 05/11/2005 9:07:29 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: lsee

I know you meant it. Just finishing the thought for you. ;)


38 posted on 05/11/2005 9:07:42 AM PDT by poobear
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To: lsee
...this kind of religious insult was needlessly reckless.

If ONE prisoner was so degraded that he gave information that saved ONE U.S. Soldier's life, then I wouldn't call it "needless". The goal was to coax information from these "people". Defiling a stack of paper pulp seems fairly reasonable to me...even in front of those paragons of religious tolerance called Muslims.

39 posted on 05/11/2005 9:08:40 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: lsee

The 'official' statements from our government is that this is 'not a religious war'. They know very well that it is. Diplomacy- and an amount of naivete,IMO, -prevents that from being said.
The soldiers in the field, the ones dealing with this face to face, know damn well that is IS a 'holy' war - and they are fighting against the UNholy ones. You don't prosecute them for it- you praise and encourage them.

To win- you use the best weapons you have, physical and psychological. They want to use the Koran to dominate the world-use the Koran to defeat them. Immerse it in urine. Line a pig pen with it. Paper the floor with it and leave not a place to walk that isn't on Mohammeds word.
Why should we respect their document of death and destruction when it proposes all other religions be eradicated?

If the idea is which side is going to dominate the world- and make no mistake, it is- then it has to start face-to-face, one on one. They will tell us how to act, or we will tell them. Islam is that black and white. To go on thinking compromise and reason are possible( with entire Muslim countries, or individual Muslims) is suicidal.


40 posted on 05/11/2005 9:12:25 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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