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House moves to raise U.S. debt ceiling ($9,000,000,000,000)
Washington Times ^ | May 10, 2005

Posted on 05/10/2005 3:47:39 PM PDT by RWR8189

Washington, DC, May. 3 (UPI) -- The U.S. House has sent legislation to the Senate that would raise the federal debt limit to nearly $9 trillion, a $781 billion increase.

The House agreed to the increase under an automatically executing provision in the 2005 budget resolution approved by the House and Senate late last week.

The House officially sent the Senate a separate piece of debt-relief legislation increasing the limit as mandated by the self-executing provision in the budget resolution.

Gaining approval of the separate bill through the gambit avoided the need for a politically costly debate on the House floor over increasing the debt ceiling again and highlighting the inter-party split on the issue.

Fiscal conservatives within the GOP have been clamoring for greater fiscal discipline on budget matters considering the massive federal deficits, estimated to reach another record in dollar terms this year, for the second consecutive year.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; biggovernment; budget; debt; deficit; deficitspending; federaldeficit; govwatch; nationaldebt; ninetrilliondollars
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To: RWR8189

Why, /shakes head, why....


21 posted on 05/10/2005 4:14:06 PM PDT by MaxMax (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: RWR8189

Thank God Bush gave American old people a NEW entitlement!

Add several trillion more over the next few years!

To hell with the people who have to pay it!


22 posted on 05/10/2005 4:14:30 PM PDT by Guillermo (Miami Heat >> on a mission to the NBA Title.)
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To: xrp
ANy estimates on what it costs to live in Belize? I wanna bail on this country ASAP.

http://www.escapeartist.com/

23 posted on 05/10/2005 4:15:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who don't)
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To: Lazamataz

"That is so frickin sad."


Ya know, I appreciate all the president is doing for the world but I didn't know the cost would be us getting thrown overboard.


24 posted on 05/10/2005 4:18:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: Spiff

I'm surprised that someone hasn't shown up yet defending the GOP's version of socialism...

Demcorats = Tax and Spend

Republiucans = Borrow and Spend


25 posted on 05/10/2005 4:19:16 PM PDT by Guillermo (Miami Heat >> on a mission to the NBA Title.)
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To: xrp
Belize is nice I spent a week there, great fishing, language is English, parts can be cheap. Costa Rica is also very nice, much more affordable.
26 posted on 05/10/2005 4:20:54 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: Guillermo

"I'm surprised that someone hasn't shown up yet defending the GOP's version of socialism..."



The talking points haven't arrived yet.


27 posted on 05/10/2005 4:21:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
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To: RWR8189

Someone remind me why I voted GOP?

Could the Dems be any worse?


28 posted on 05/10/2005 4:21:41 PM PDT by Amelia (Still cynical after all these years.......)
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To: ThinkDifferent
A tax cut without a corresponding spending decrease is not a cut at all; it's just passing the bill to future taxpayers.

Especially when it's only a temporary cut. Taxes go back up automatically after ten years, without Congressmen even having to go on record as supporting it. So it's not surprising that this cut won't result in decreased spending, because there's no incentive for it to. All it will do is add to the deficit, and discredit the cause of cutting taxes in the future.

29 posted on 05/10/2005 4:23:22 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: NJ_gent
The debt is a time bomb for the country. I have a 31 year old daughter. I don't have a clue how her generation will handle this monster. They may not be able to.
30 posted on 05/10/2005 4:23:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: NJ_gent
Your link is showing the debt going down.
31 posted on 05/10/2005 4:26:13 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: RWR8189; All

I'm at least happy to see that mathematical-ineptitude of our GOP controlled government does not reflect on their conservative constituents (or it does not appear so at all from the posts so far).

So, the big question on my mind is, *we're* the ones who put these guys in power, *we're* the ones who were out campaiging and writing letters and blogging and pulling the weight in these last elections, *we're* in unanimous consensus that the government needs to reign in spending... and yet, we're being completely ignored?

I guess the GOP has decided that if they put a good enough show on to convince us that they're better than the Dems then they can screw us over on everything else.


32 posted on 05/10/2005 4:26:39 PM PDT by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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To: RWR8189

12 zeros! they are out of control!

when will people wake up? when do we start dumping tea?!


33 posted on 05/10/2005 4:27:43 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

I can guarantee you this. If Al Gore or John Kerry proposed any of the spending itmes that Bush have, we would have seen the Republicans in Congress fighting tooth and nail over them.


34 posted on 05/10/2005 4:29:03 PM PDT by econ_grad
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To: Amelia
You just hit on the irony of the situation.
Hillary is already running as a "budget balancer" with surpluses galore and they actually can make the case while we plunge the nation deeper and deeper, go figure.
35 posted on 05/10/2005 4:29:25 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: RWR8189

The irony is that Hillary and the new centrists of the Dem party will harp on this as an issue in '08. And they, very likely, will be successful in converting it into a Dem win in '08.


36 posted on 05/10/2005 4:30:47 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: explodingspleen
GW appears to be playing the same game the Clintonista/rats did. Do anything to get elected/re-elected, whatever the cost.
37 posted on 05/10/2005 4:31:46 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: RWR8189

If you're going to spend like Canada, you have to tax like Canada. Don't be like Canada.
On the other hand Canada is currently paying off its debt which is about 1/2 per capita what the US debt is.


38 posted on 05/10/2005 4:32:19 PM PDT by rasblue (What would Barry Goldwater do?)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

The only "conservative" to ever conserve anything was Teddy Roosevelt.


39 posted on 05/10/2005 4:32:26 PM PDT by TNinga
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To: RWR8189

If you're going to spend like Canada, you have to tax like Canada. Don't be like Canada.
On the other hand Canada is currently paying off its debt which is about 1/2 per capita what the US debt is.


40 posted on 05/10/2005 4:32:39 PM PDT by rasblue (What would Barry Goldwater do?)
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