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A Vietnam War Vet Looks at 'THE' Iraq War Photo - (U.S.Army Major Mark Bieger holding child)
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | MAY 9, 2005 | WAYNE LUSVARDI

Posted on 05/08/2005 9:13:31 PM PDT by CHARLITE

The recent photo of U.S. Army Major Mark Bieger cradling a wounded Iraqi girl in his arms is one of those indelible images that puncture the often impenetrable fog of the war at the geo-strategic level. (For the story of the photo click here http://komotv.com/news/story.asp?ID=36687). This powerful photo contrasts with the negative media portrayals riveted into our minds about the Viet Nam War.


One memorable Viet Nam war photo is the picture of children fleeing down a road from where a napalm bomb was dropped by the South Vietnamese Air Force on the village of Trang Bang where Viet Cong were holed up. One 9-year old girl, Kim Phoe Phan Thi, is shown crying and naked after shedding her burning clothes running away from the searing heat and clouds of smoke from the bomb. The picture does not tell the full story that nearby South Vietnamese ARVN soldiers were unable to aid or cover the little girl’s nakedness because of the unseen burns on her back.http://www.vietnamwar.com/PhanThiKimPhuc.htm

Another remarkable but eerie photo is of the black silhouette of a helicopter hovering directly overhead against the background of an all white sky hoisting the body of an American paratrooper killed in action in the jungle near the Cambodian border in War Zone C, circa 1966..http://www.pieceuniquegallery.com/huet/HH6612_page.html

The above photo is reminiscent of this writer’s own experience of escorting medicated psychiatric patients in Huey helicopters so they wouldn’t fall or jump from the aircraft during evacuations from the 25th Infantry Division Headquarters base camp in Cu Chi to the hospital in Ton Son Nhut near Saigon; as pictured in Eric M. Bergerud’s book Red Thunder, Tropic Lightning- The World of a Combat Division in Vietnam. On the return trips from such evacuations we would fly into fire fights and pick up captured Viet Cong who were sometimes mutilated by South Vietnamese forces, something that U.S. forces never condoned and would have severely punished.

These pictures, and the infamous story of a retaliatory action against Viet Cong collaborators in the village of My Lai and the ensuing court martial of U.S. Army Lieutenant William Calley, are the media images that often come to mind about the Viet Nam War.

However, an almost identical photograph to the Major Bieger photo of a U.S. soldier cradling a Vietnamese child during the Viet Nam War can be found on pages 112-113 of the new book Under Fire: Images from Vietnam edited by war reporter Catherine Leroy (no online photo). Another nearly as powerful photo is of a U.S. Marine rescuing an elderly Vietnamese lady during the Battle of Hue in February 1968 by photographer Don McCullin.http://www.pieceuniquegallery.com/mccullin/DM6804_page.html A selection of the portfolio of photographic images from Under Fire can be viewed by clicking here.http://www.pieceuniquegallery.com/leroy/cl_gallery.html

In the eyes of many, the Viet Nam war was an “unnecessary” war, while the Iraq War is seen more as a “war for democracy.” But is this public perception accurate? The Greek philosopher Aristotle wrote that “thought is impossible without images.” Have the images changed that much between the two wars?

While the public often depends on TV pictures framed by broadcast commentators to understand the reality of war, three books ironically by liberal writers may offer a better picture of the Viet Nam war in retrospect.

Peter Braestrap, Chief of the Washington Post’s Saigon Bureau during the Tet Offensive documented the press’s abject failure to get the story of the Viet Nam war right in his book Big Story: How the American Press and TV Reported and Interpreted the Crisis of Tet 1968. Braestrup documented how television’s misportrayal of the Tet Offensive as a “disaster,” especially by CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite, galvanized American public opinion against the war. There are no pictures in Braestrap’s book but it is chocked with word pictures of the media-casting of the Tet Offensive.

Edith Efron, former TV Guide writer, and lawyer-sociologist Clytia M. Chambers, definitively documented in The News Twisters (1971), with some statistical graphs that are as riveting as any photo, on how the news media biased the American public against Richard Nixon in the 1968 Presidential election and against U.S. policy on the war in Vietnam. Efron’s book focused on NBC broadcaster David Brinkley’s definition of news: “News is what I say it is. It’s something worth knowing by my standards.”

Truong Nhu Tang, a former South Vietnamese Minister of Justice, revolutionist and collaborator with Ho Chi Minh, was a double agent for the National Liberation Front (NLF) who wrote A Viet Cong Memoir: An Inside Account of the Vietnam War and its Aftermath (1985). The book is filled with photographs of NLF activities and the story of the tragic betrayal of the NLF by the communists after the fall of South Vietnam. Disillusionment and despair came after the war when instead of liberation from “colonialism” the North Vietnamese arrested 300,000 people and put many in permanent “re-education camps” that mass media never saw. Tang ended up fleeing as one of the “boat people” refugees after the war.

Does the public view the pictures of the Iraq War through a different cultural and media lens than the Vietnam War? Certainly the circumstances of the two wars are different. But perhaps the public should go back and look at the photographs of the Vietnam War for themselves and come to their own conclusions upon the 30th anniversary of the last Americans being airlifted out of Saigon ending the U.S. involvement in that war.

Note: The writer served with the 25th Medical Battalion, 25th Infantry Division, U.S. Army, based at Division Field Headquarters in Cu Chi, Hau Nghia Province, South Vietnam, during the Vietnam War.

About the Writer: About the author: Wayne Lusvardi worked for 20 years for the Metro Water District of So. Cal. and lives in Pasadena. The views expressed are his own. . Wayne receives e-mail at wlusvardi@yahoo.com.


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1 posted on 05/08/2005 9:13:32 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; Billthedrill; HonestConservative; SMARTY; ...

This may interest you. It is powerful. History in photos, and a fine narrative by a Viet Vet.


2 posted on 05/08/2005 9:15:05 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: CHARLITE

All I know is that half the boomers were nothing but spoiled brats, and still are today.

The other half won the Cold War, and sometimes died doing it.

History now judges both groups, as God does too.


3 posted on 05/08/2005 9:24:59 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

Wow, well said!


4 posted on 05/08/2005 9:28:50 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: SteveMcKing
All I know is that half the boomers were nothing but spoiled brats, and still are today.

They will go down in history as a "wicked and adulterous generation" . They expanded Social Security and are in the process of draining it dry; they expanded Medicare/Medicaid and are in the process of draining it dry ; they expanded union power and as a result manufacturing is done overseas instead of here. Etc. etc.

5 posted on 05/08/2005 9:31:41 PM PDT by ikka
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To: SteveMcKing

Amen, FRiend.


6 posted on 05/08/2005 9:32:19 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: CHARLITE; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; Blue Scourge; Cool Multiservice Soldier; ..

"One memorable Viet Nam war photo is the picture of children fleeing down a road from

where a napalm bomb was dropped by the South Vietnamese Air Force

on the village of Trang Bang where Viet Cong were holed up."

Another fact, "forgotten" by so many, so US Troops could be blamed.


7 posted on 05/08/2005 9:35:12 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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To: CHARLITE

That child's not an innocent victim of war, she's an innocent victim of muslim terror.


8 posted on 05/08/2005 9:38:07 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: CHARLITE
You can read what Michael Yon, the photographer, has to say about the picture here. What's especially disgusting is that the scumbags at Democratic Underground were self-righteously using the photograph to bash Americans. They forget who the enemy is.
9 posted on 05/08/2005 9:40:26 PM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: SteveMcKing; Interesting Times; Diva One
Ping!

Regards,

TS

10 posted on 05/08/2005 9:40:29 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 05/08/2005 9:43:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ikka

My husband and I are at the beginning of the baby boom and I would give up any increase in SS in exchange for a tax reduction on our 401k and IRA, and permanent reduction in the capital gains tax.


12 posted on 05/08/2005 9:49:38 PM PDT by Eva
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for this ping and SALUTE for what you are doing for our Troops.


13 posted on 05/08/2005 10:02:41 PM PDT by zip (.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

What's with all this hatred for boomers?

Is it a need to find somebody to blame? Disinformation trolls trying to get us to hate somebody other than Bush?

This boomer grew up knowing that the MSM wasn't reporting things the way I saw them. (I figured that out during the Goldwater presidential campaign when I'd hear a Goldwater speech and then the commentator would try to tell me what I'd just heard. Even as a youngster, I knew there was an agenda!)

Cronkite and David Brinkley are too old to fall within the boomer group.

And how can those boomers born between 1946-1964 be draining social security? (Somebody born in 1946 is only 59 this year!)


14 posted on 05/08/2005 10:30:06 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: CHARLITE

I suspect the photos followed public opinion rather than led it. I think the negative photos of Viet Nam came more frequently as public opinion changed.

Also public opinion affect whether or not a picture is positively or negatively perceived. There have been plenty of pictures of the WOT that might have been viewed more negatively had the US not been attacked. Heck the loons on DU got mad at Bush over the photo of the soldier carrying the little girl at the top of this post.


15 posted on 05/08/2005 10:32:07 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS
"Heck the loons on DU got mad at Bush over the photo of the soldier carrying the little girl at the top of this post."

.......and the duplicity plus cynicism of their propaganda against our president is so blatant. Their "message" is that if Bush hadn't gone into Iraq, children like this one would still be alive. Not so. Tens of thousands of children were brutally raped and murdered to fill Saddam's mass graves which now number in the several hundred thousand of victims. That would still be ongoing, if this courageous president hadn't taken the bull by the horns and ended Hussein's atrocities.

16 posted on 05/08/2005 11:32:41 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub


17 posted on 05/09/2005 3:05:33 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Fawnn; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping, Tonk. Saved the "UnderFire" link to look at the 'Nam pics.

~ And how can those boomers born between 1946-1964 be draining social security? (Somebody born in 1946 is only 59 this year!) ~
Good point!


18 posted on 05/09/2005 4:02:17 AM PDT by Mustng959 (Honoring those that gave their all in support of our freedoms)
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To: Fawnn
What's with all this hatred for boomers?

I blame the Boomers for helping tear this country up in the 60's and 70's with their selfishenss. They weren't against the Viet Nam war as musc as against their personal involvement in it.

Boomers have become the Most Hypocritical Generation...first with Never Trust Anyone Over 30 and being anti establishment to becoming the It's All About Me generation and becoming the Establishment.

The same people who mocked me for joining the military in the 70's confided some 20 years later that wished that they had done so also. Yeah, right.

19 posted on 05/09/2005 5:20:08 AM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: ikka; Fawnn
Those in this generation who will be judged 'wicked and adulterous' will not be judged thus because of Social Security, Medicare or unions, but rather because of their abandonment of morality and God's laws so that they could "do whatever feels good" and "live for today."

And all of us in the boomer generation do not fit into that category.

20 posted on 05/09/2005 7:41:42 AM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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