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Entrepreneurs Pitch "Code Boat" For Near-Shore IT Outsourcing
outsourceingpipeline.com ^ | 5 2 05 | W. David Gardner

Posted on 05/06/2005 11:44:31 PM PDT by freepatriot32

Two California entrepreneurs are developing an IT services business plan that reads like a CIO's paradise: sharply lower IT prices coupled with easy access to software and engineering outsourcing developers just a short boat ride away. It's the "Code Boat," a plan by David Cook and Roger Green, the founders of SeaCode. Their venture calls for staffing a cruise ship three miles off the Southern California coast with customer IT specialists and then making the ship available to IT headquarters staffers through a short water taxi ride.

"We're getting a good reception," said Green, a veteran software developer and executive. "Our plan is resonating mostly with companies that are already outsourcing."

The founders say they have secured financing for their venture and they are now attempting to line up a cruise ship and IT customers for SeaCode. Says Cook: "Our goal is to be in the water by the end of the year."

Their idea has drawn some criticism from critics who are labeling it a "slave ship" and a "sweatshop," prompting some to doubt SeaCode will ever get launched.

Not so, say Cook and Green, who say they plan to pay engineers and software developers well. The believe they can skirt H-1B visa regulations by categorizing their specialists as "seamen" and who would therefore be able to visit the U.S. mainland on shore passes. They will do a significant amount of hiring among non-U.S. lands to sign up top experts.

Green said, for instance, that SeaCode will look for back office and SAP experts in India, network engineers in China, and embedded developers in Russia. Non-American employees would likely receive much less than their counterparts on the mainland. Still, he added, SeaCode plans to hire plenty of American experts, noting that about half of job applicants so far are from Americans.

The plan is for SeaCode's engineers to work 8 to 10-hour shifts days and nights to get fast completion times of IT projects. The ship would sail to Encinada in Baja Mexico for vacation and leisure time. The employees would be housed in comfortable cabins and visiting CIO staffers from the mainland would likewise be housed in comfortable cruise ship accommodations when they visit to check on the progress of their outsourced work.

Green and Cook said a key element of their plan is to free IT managers from long and fatiguing trips to outsourcing centers like India.

The business plan revolves largely on plans to get engineering and software specialists declared "seamen" with U.S. immigration authorities. With that designation, the "seamen" can fly into Los Angeles and move to the ship and take shore leave breaks, too.

Cook is the maritime expert in the venture. He studied at the California Maritime Academy and spent 16 years at sea as a ship captain before entering the IT field. Green said he has about 30 years experience in the software industry, working for several years at the former Boole and Babbage as well as more recently at Cymer in outsourcing


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; boat; california; code; computerworkers; entrepreneurs; for; govwatch; h1b; immigration; india; it; mexico; near; outsourcing; pitch; robberbarons; seacode; seamen; shore; visas
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1 posted on 05/06/2005 11:44:32 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: Abram; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; blackeagle; BroncosFan; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
2 posted on 05/06/2005 11:45:31 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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3 posted on 05/06/2005 11:50:25 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: freepatriot32

Nothing like bringing the sweatshops to the customer instead of the customers to the sweatshop. I don't like the idea of a cruise ship with a bunch of engineers and software hackers, many from foreign lands, just off the shore of America in war time.


4 posted on 05/06/2005 11:55:04 PM PDT by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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To: dannyboy72
I don't like the idea of a cruise ship with a bunch of engineers and software hackers, many from foreign lands, just off the shore of America in war time.

Fortunately, we have sufficient stocks of the antidote just down the coast in San Diego:


5 posted on 05/07/2005 12:12:40 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: freepatriot32

I guess "seamen" means anyone who works on a boat? That's the only way this could fly.


6 posted on 05/07/2005 12:16:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: freepatriot32
Sounds like the "abortion boat" in Europe has been re-tasked.
7 posted on 05/07/2005 12:46:40 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: freepatriot32

Can anyone say "SLAVE SHIP"?


8 posted on 05/07/2005 2:09:44 AM PDT by GungaLaGunga
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To: freepatriot32

And "by the end of the year," they and their clients will be losers.


9 posted on 05/07/2005 2:20:47 AM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Roman.)
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To: freepatriot32

Unless these IT specialists want to handle lines and work the engineering spaces, the Seamen's Union ain't gonna go for this.


10 posted on 05/07/2005 3:41:38 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sarcasm tags are for wusses.)
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To: freepatriot32; television is just wrong; CROSSHIGHWAYMAN; piceapungens; TXBSAFH; Cagey; putupjob; ..

right off shore ping!


11 posted on 05/07/2005 4:19:21 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
I've heard of this. Apparently it has Hannity's shorts in a twist, a local talk show guy was up in arms about it, and I still think that it's about the stupidist idea I've ever come across. These people will be competing with IT resources in India and Europe, they are taking on the additional expense of providing room and board for their IT staff, and for what? What is the benefit supposed to be?

I'm an IT project manager. I've managed projects for a couple of companies where the software developers were based overseas. I'm currently working on a outsourcing for a large retail company located in another state. I manage 4 projects made up of people located in all four time zones as well as resourced located in India, and I do not see the benefit of this scheme. It's a virtual world in IT, thanks to instant communications. I telecommute. My people in India are available when I need them, we communicate easily through email and using Lotus Note's Sametime online chat. I communicate with my U.S. staff almost exclusively through conference calls, email, and online chat. If my overseas resources were located 50 miles off the California coast that wouldn't make my job any easier. It wouldn't make it harder. It wouldn't change it at all. This sounds like the kind of idea that came out of an all night MBA school drinking session.

12 posted on 05/07/2005 4:48:58 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: dread78645
Unless these IT specialists want to handle lines and work the engineering spaces, the Seamen's Union ain't gonna go for this.

Foreign-flag the boat and the Seaman's Union can go hang.

13 posted on 05/07/2005 4:50:38 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

They sure got a lot of attention!


14 posted on 05/07/2005 4:51:02 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
They sure got a lot of attention!

Somehow I think that was their plan all along.

15 posted on 05/07/2005 4:52:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: freepatriot32

"If not for the captain and the crew the Minnow would be lost"


16 posted on 05/07/2005 4:57:26 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
I don't mean to pick nits, but you messed up one of the classics. It is
fearless crew.
17 posted on 05/07/2005 5:09:31 AM PDT by Joe Driscoll
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To: Joe Driscoll
Sorry. Sometimes I get that tune in my head and can't get it out. The words don't come back though....

Time to search the reruns. I love Bob Denver, he was great all the way back to "Toby Gillis."

18 posted on 05/07/2005 5:44:34 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You got it.

If you are an Indian making 20k per year, you can live like a prince in India. Why would you go work on this boat? Dumb idea.


19 posted on 05/07/2005 7:15:55 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: freepatriot32

This shows how ridiculous the laws of this country are. A perfect illustration.


20 posted on 05/07/2005 8:00:15 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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