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Blair may decide to quit sooner than expected
The Daily Telegraph ^ | May 6, 2005 | Rachel Sylvester

Posted on 05/06/2005 5:36:10 AM PDT by MadIvan

Tony Blair may have secured a historic third term for the Labour Party last night but the reduction in the size of his majority will significantly change the way in which he is able to act.

His power and his position in the party have depended almost entirely on the perception since his landslide victory in 1997 that he is a winner. In many parts of the country that has now been undermined.

Last night's result could make it more difficult for the Prime Minister to stay in office for the whole of the next Parliament as he promised to do when he said last year that he intended to stand down.

Mr Blair's allies have been admitting privately for several weeks that he would almost certainly have to resign if the Labour majority fell below 60. In the view of many Blairites, 60 to 70 was a grey area which would leave the party leader severely weakened.

Yesterday, before the result was declared, some ministers close to the Labour leader said he would stay at Number 10 for as long as possible.

Other Blairites, though, have detected a change in the Prime Minister's mood during a difficult campaign.

"I think he'll go in about 18 months," said one loyal minister earlier in the week. "Whatever the outcome of the election, he's been badly damaged by the campaign."

Another Labour strategist admitted that Mr Blair's morale had been badly affected by the criticisms he had received from voters on the stump.

"Tony has been shocked by the level of hostility to him personally in the run-up to polling day. No one can know what effect that will have."

However long Mr Blair decides to stay in Downing Street, the reduction in the size of Labour's parliamentary majority will make it much more difficult for him to do what he wants.

The Government will struggle to get controversial legislation, such as proposals to introduce identity cards, on to the statute book now that the number of Labour MPs has been reduced.

Mr Blair may find it hard to implement "unremittingly New Labour" reforms of the public services with a smaller and potentially more rebellious parliamentary party. This month's Queen's Speech is expected to include around 40 Bills.

These will put forward proposals to increase the role of the private sector in the running of state services, plans to create a points system for immigration, and measures to give parents more power to close down failing schools.

Several of these pieces of proposed legislation will be controversial with Labour backbenchers, who are likely to feel emboldened.

Mr Blair may also find it harder to assert his authority on a number of big policy issues, not dealt with in the Labour manifesto, which are due to come to a head in the next six months.

Adair Turner's review of pensions and Sir Michael Lyons's review of local government funding, both due to report before the end of the year, will provoke wide-ranging discussions about the future of savings and the fate of the council tax.

This summer, Labour intends to initiate a public debate on energy policy, which will consider whether the role of nuclear power stations should be increased.

At the same time the Government will consult voters about proposals to replace the road tax with a road pricing system, which would see motorists charged according to the distance they drive.

Hanging over the whole Parliament, meanwhile, will be the question of whether Labour will have to raise taxes again to fund its plans for the public services. Nobody knows whether the love-in between Mr Blair and the Chancellor will continue once the common goal of victory has gone, but the election result is likely to strengthen Gordon Brown's hand.

Most insiders believe that an understanding has been reached between the two on the future of the Government and of their own careers.

In return for the Chancellor's support, Mr Blair has signalled his intention to endorse Mr Brown to succeed him as Labour leader. The handover may come more quickly now.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; election; labour; madivan; opous; opus; quit; resignation; tonyblair; tories; uk; ukelection; yeoldeopus
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To: MadIvan

Best of luck. Agree upon your premises, am sorry to see you go, and won't bother pleading for you to stay. Outside of www.RightGoths.com , are there any other websites you currently pontificate the political on?

PLease make a comeback for the French Constitution vote.

Ok, I couldn't resist.


501 posted on 05/06/2005 11:15:57 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: fooman
Ivan is right. It is the jokers who should be cut out

What do you propose? Do we need to be more vigilant and less tolerant of the jerks among us?

502 posted on 05/06/2005 11:16:47 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: cooper72

Read my posts, I hate the Provos, there are only a few of those 'barstool republicans' around, unfortunatley there is a high concentration of them where I live - will be argueing with then later in the pub!

Thanks for replying, a misunderstanding I guess, like I said to Mad Ivan - British and Irish FReepers are the best of FRiends!

FRegards,

IT.


503 posted on 05/06/2005 11:17:03 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (George Orwell was the first Neocon!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
British and Irish FReepers are the best of FRiends!

The nations of the British Isles have so much in common and our history is so shared that we always should be.

504 posted on 05/06/2005 11:20:42 AM PDT by cooper72
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To: MadIvan

Hey guy ... don't EVEN think of leaving ... your insight and wisdom are needed here more than ever.


505 posted on 05/06/2005 11:21:06 AM PDT by clamper1797 (To say that there is no difference between a liberal and a jackass ... wrongs the jackass)
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To: cooper72

That's the truth!


506 posted on 05/06/2005 11:21:46 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (George Orwell was the first Neocon!)
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To: MadIvan

Ivan,

Have you noticed that quidnunc, the fella I was referring to in post 9, has just been banned? He posted a thread earlier on with: '(This time without a flame war, please)' after the article's title. That wasn't a very smart move given that the moderators are on the look out for disruptors on this topic board now!


507 posted on 05/06/2005 11:22:20 AM PDT by David Hunter
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To: MadIvan

Godspeed.


508 posted on 05/06/2005 11:23:27 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: MadIvan

Stop it bud. I gave you some crap but it was all in fun. You stay. *I'll* go.


509 posted on 05/06/2005 11:23:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: jpl

British gun law

http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/magazine/magazine_home_disarmament.html


510 posted on 05/06/2005 11:25:22 AM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME - And a Member of the Conservative Party)
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To: MadIvan
I have to say that the Mods have asked me to reconsider, and I've agreed to think about it - to their credit, they've reassured me that they are concerned about the same things I'm concerned about.

I'm not sure what else to say except again...thank you everyone...for your kindness and friendship, which is a large part of why I've been here as long as I have been.

Besides, if you leave, I'll just talk bad about you when you are gone.

You don't want that, do you?

511 posted on 05/06/2005 11:25:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Proving the point that honest reasoned discussion has given way to unhinged vitriol.


512 posted on 05/06/2005 11:26:28 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: nuffsenuff
Just take a breather and come back in a while.

The longest breather I have ever managed was a little more than a month last year.

I'm obsessive, I think.

513 posted on 05/06/2005 11:26:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: cooper72
It was a joke rebuttel to the self-righteous. But if you want to get serious we all "do business with odious dictators to the detriment of their enslaved subjects" all the time without much worry. Have you never used Arabian oil or bought Chinese goods? Hmmm?

Your reply is poorly reasoned. You cited trade with Cuba as a superior freedom of your country as compared to ours. As I pointed out, this is without merit. Apparently you now agree and say it was a "joke." Fine. That leaves you without any point at all.

It has been pointed out the American freedom to keep and bear arms is superior to that of Britain, generally speaking. It is also true that we enjoy greater freedom of speech. If doing this sort of comparison seems "self-righteous" to you, well, too bad! The important issue is whether it is true that Americans are more free.

The nonsense about Arab oil and Chinese goods is just that; nonsense. The U.K. is not boycotting these goods and I did not say that American use of them constitutes some sort of greater freedom. Total rubbish, your comment.

I hope you are drunk, because if you reason this poorly sober then you must have a pretty tough go of things.

514 posted on 05/06/2005 11:28:24 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: MadIvan
MadIvan,

I think you should consider the following:

1. True American Conservatives (a group to which not all FR posters are to be counted) don't give up when the going gets rough.

2. True British Conservatives don't give up when the going gets rough.

3. Number 1 and number 2 are are applicable to true Conservatives from Canada, Australia, etc.

FR was created by a true Conservative, for other true Conservatives to interact, share, and support each other.

Your man Winston C. and your woman Maggie T., and all those patriotic Brits which made the ultimate sacrifice for England and the freedom of the world, didn't give up.

Now, think hard about this. FR is a conservative forum, and it needs the eyes, ears, and heart of every true conservative around the world. It needs them to relay the TRUTH about what is happening in their countries as we fight the War on Terror and the War against Communists and their leftist sympathizers.

If you do leave, I'll still be here, with a hot cup of Java, when you come to your senses and get back in the fight for Freedom.
515 posted on 05/06/2005 11:28:42 AM PDT by Col Freeper (Never argue with an idiot - - it's a useless activity and the leftist just enjoys it.)
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To: OldFriend

Ditto.


516 posted on 05/06/2005 11:34:37 AM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: rogue yam

1. British Citizens are legally free to travel anywhere in the world. Your Government says you are not.

2. What can you say that I cannot?

3. Why is it ok to boycott one totalitarian nation but wrong to boycott another?


517 posted on 05/06/2005 11:34:42 AM PDT by cooper72
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To: MadIvan

Ivan,

I am sorry to see you go. I have not myself seen the people of who you speak, running down the UK, but it is not hard to imagine it happening, and I for one am very sorry for it.

When America and Americans have so few steadfast allies in this world today, it makes no sense to thrash them for not being in line with our definition of "right".

Again I'm sorry to see you go, but I cannot blame you for feeling the way you do.

All the best, friend.


518 posted on 05/06/2005 11:35:00 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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To: snugs
No the poster is just pointing out that we are as free as you

No, the poster was just spouting off a meaningless, assinine comment. He even admitted so himself. Too bad for you.

519 posted on 05/06/2005 11:35:49 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: k2blader
Well, bless you, k2, but I know I can get on some people's nerves sometimes, too. LOL

I do try to remember that there are human beings behind these posts. And, I'm willing to keep trying harder! ;-)

520 posted on 05/06/2005 11:36:07 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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