Posted on 05/05/2005 4:48:29 PM PDT by mondoman
WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo ought to reconsider his membership in the Republican Party, a Utah congressman said Wednesday after the two GOP lawmakers put an intraparty rift over immigration policy on full public display.
"I think he ought to consider his views and decide whether they're consistent with the Republican Party," Rep. Chris Cannon, R-Utah, said of the Colorado congressman after the two clashed repeatedly during a forum sponsored by the Latino Coalition, a Hispanic business group.
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Cannon, a leading proponent of President Bush's proposed guest- worker program, has had a running feud with Tancredo, an opponent of the plan and outspoken advocate of tougher immigration enforcement. Last year, a political action committee founded by Tancredo targeted Cannon during his primary election challenge.
The two men sat side by side on stools at Wednesday's event inside Washington's J.W. Marriott hotel, and the rhetoric got so emotional that at one point they had a comical tussle over who would get to hold the microphone next.
The debate began with a third panelist, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., denouncing unnamed people he said were exploiting the immigration issue because of bigotry, hatred and prejudice.
"If not for the undocumented workers in this country, I'd say that this room would not have been as clean and well-organized this morning," Gutierrez said.
Tancredo challenged Gutierrez when he took the microphone.
"We certainly would not want to pander to anyone on this issue, would we?" Tancredo said. "What I just heard was not that, was it?"
Tancredo repeated his long-standing call for the country to close its "porous borders" before it considers a new guest-worker program.
"It is crazy to suggest this nation should not do everything possible to secure the border," Tancredo said, saying a desire for cheap, immigrant labor could leave the borders open to terrorists or narcotics traffickers. Tancredo equates Bush's proposal to "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, saying it would reward people who entered the country illegally.
When it was his turn, Cannon immediately endorsed Gutierrez's earlier statement. He said the vast majority of Americans believe that undocumented immigrants should have "a path to citizenship" as long as they have willing employers, have not committed crimes and already are contributing to society.
Cannon said only a small minority of people "truly believe we should kick out" all illegal immigrants. He cited one of Tancredo's political allies, conservative commentator Pat Buchanan, who got about 1 percent of the vote after he left the Republican Party and ran for president in 2000 as a third-party candidate.
"I don't think there's a place in the Republican Party for racism, for xenophobia, for ideas that are fundamentally un-American," Cannon said.
Tancredo clapped quietly, saying he also sees no place in the debate for racism or xenophobia, which refers to a fear of foreign people or things.
Still, some observers - including a Tancredo staff member - interpreted it as an indirect reference to Tancredo, since he has recently toyed with the idea of following in Buchanan's footsteps and mounting a presidential campaign in 2008.
Asked after the event if he thought Tancredo was racist or xenophobic, Cannon said: "I don't know what motivates him."
In an interview, Tancredo fired back at Cannon, pointing to his primary election challenge by Republican Matt Throckmorton in 2004. The Team America PAC, founded by Tancredo and chaired by Buchanan's sister, Bay Buchanan, backed Throckmorton. Another group, Project U.S.A., placed billboards saying "Congressman Chris Cannon wants amnesty for illegal aliens. Do you?"
"Of the two of us, Mr. Cannon is the only one who has had a primary (challenge since taking office)," Tancredo said. "Evidently, there are a lot of people in his district who believe he is not Republican enough."
Tancredo has recently started traveling to early presidential primary states like New Hampshire, saying he wants to make sure the "serious candidates" put the immigration issue front-and-center in the 2008 race.
He has said it is unlikely he would actually run in - or win - a presidential race, but that he would consider a campaign if other candidates ignore the issue.
But he sees no need to leave the Republican Party.
"I believe the Republican Party is with me on the issue," Tancredo said.
"As long as that's the case, I frankly can't think why I would change. In the Republican Party, more people agree with me than with President Bush and Mr. Cannon (on immigration)."
Tancredo was facing a polite but generally skeptical crowd at The Latino Coalition event. Before he appeared, an opening speaker, while listing the VIPs invited to speak, added, "I'm sorry, but we also have Congressman Tom Tancredo."
That prompted a smattering of boos and hisses.
About 30 minutes after Tancredo, Cannon and Gutierrez left the stage, President Bush appeared for a presentation on Social Security. He got huge applause when he diverged to talk about his guest worker plan, which could go before Congress later this year.
2) Compassionate social conservatives like Bush, and my twp GOP committeeman St Rep Paul Froehlich support relaxed immigration for the same resons they are pro-life. Included in this are many of us citizens who have family/friends who are illegals, eg my inlaws. (My previously illegal wife is now closer to a Rosanna type Mexican than I am.) Both #1 and #2 include strains of abolitionist Republicans who see little difference between slaves and illegals in terms of morality.
3) Mercantilists are those evil corporations who seek that expanded supply of labor for their own gain.
4) Finger-to-the-wind moderates are afraid they will be called racist. Look at how often Minutemen are called racist. I disagree with them. But the ones from Illinois whom I know are not racist
5) Roveites see an opportunity to capture a voting bloc that is conservative on social issues, is pro-family with a strong work ethic and has the lowest rate of application for welfare of those qualified to apply of any ethnic group. Since Paul Froehlich and I have had local success at obtaining the votes of Hispanics, we may have mixed reasons for our position... except that I think the cause and effect on that are the reverse. In my 7 precincts I obtained 100% of the Hispanic vote for Bush (with 1 exception) and for Paul Froehlich in 2001 because I seemed friendly to Hispanics, which I probably am. My suburb is changing from White Trash to Hispanic. I do extremely poorly among divorced people and promiscuous women, which are a large part of the prior demographic.
GREAT POST!!!!!
Cannon will be cannon-fodder when the next election rolls around. I will do ads pro-bono for any major candidates who wish to challenge him in the primary.
It IS Christian to take care of one's own, first. Allowing this flood of foreigners while we have a welfare state, is sheer kookery, as well as unjust to lawful citizens.
Your inlaws are illegals?
You outline one of my problems with libertarians. And I am one , sort of. You dont want something to be illegal so you condone it and excuse it, hoping that the momentum caused by the non-enforcement that you helped create in the first place makes some prohibition unrealistic instead of working to change law. That bugs the hell out of me.
oh That and you want to open the borders before we limit government, axe the welfare state, and secure property rights in this country. Until we do that, allowing huge immigration and naturalisation from the left wing south will move this country to the left. Not good.
End of libertarian rant.
I'd quickly horsetrade my hypothetical support of legal prostitution for a vote on the above cuts. Immigration presents a different set of pragmatic consequences.
Historically, legal immigration has always required that an immigrant have a financial sponsor in the USA who guarantees that the immigrant will not become a ward of the state. It was on that specific basis that I sponsored my wife to become a legal immigrant...that I would guarantee she would not become dependent on the taxpayers. That was the reason for the existence of ethnic groups like PRCU and PNA - Polish National Alliance.
That long standing historical policy needs to be expanded and enforced. No AFDC, Medicaid, Medicare, SSI, Kidcare, etc for an immigrant, regardless of legal or illegal. For people like me the moral distinction is not "legal" or "illegal", the moral distinction is "come here to work" or "come here to be a parasite".
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