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The War We Could Have Won [Truth on 'Nam published in NY Times!]
The New York Times ^ | May 1, 2005 | By STEPHEN J. MORRIS

Posted on 05/01/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by aculeus

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The Congressional Dems cutoff of financial aid to our allies was disgraceful and unforgivable.
1 posted on 05/01/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Agreed.

The lefties in Congress who did that have much innocent blood on their hands. It is truly shocking that some of them are still in Congrress today!


2 posted on 05/01/2005 10:38:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: aculeus
And the one responsible for maligning our nation's Vietnam War Vets was nominated by his party last year to be its presidential nominee. That's what keeps haunting American society and political life to this day.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 05/01/2005 10:39:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: aculeus

Ping for later reading


4 posted on 05/01/2005 10:39:06 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: aculeus

The democrats believed/believe that our Vietnamese allies were nothing more than property to be disposed of by their keepers in any way they saw fit. They're not opposed to dictatorships because that's the only way they can stamp out the concept of the individual...but killing them


5 posted on 05/01/2005 10:40:11 AM PDT by jess35
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To: aculeus

The Democrats undid the election of 1972 and tossed the Republican party into exile. 1974-80 were dark years for this country at home and abroad. It was a time the Democrats ran the show.

The squealed like castrated pigs when the Gipper stomped them in 1980.


6 posted on 05/01/2005 10:41:41 AM PDT by Luke21
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The New York Times, and their lot were partially to blame for the loss. They did everything they could to demean the war effort.


7 posted on 05/01/2005 10:42:10 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: aculeus

bump


8 posted on 05/01/2005 10:42:23 AM PDT by bubman
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The Congressional Dems cutoff of financial aid to our allies was disgraceful and unforgivable.

That combined with Lyndon Johnson's gross mismanagement and lack of principles was the deathblow for the Vietnam War. Their behavior was absolutely disgraceful and gave the liberal anti-war scum a victory beyond their wildest dreams.

Nowadays, they point to Vietnam and say, "See, nation-building is impossible. Winning against an insurgency is impossible." Their answer to tyrants like Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, the Khmer Rouge, and Rwanda is to do some token bitching, send them money, and kowtow to their murderous deeds because Vietnam "proved" that such intervention is morally wrong and impossible to change. Liberals are truly disgusting.

9 posted on 05/01/2005 10:43:53 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infidel since 1970.)
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Yep. And last year they lauded the faked exploits of Kerry... in a war they all hated.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 05/01/2005 10:45:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sthitch

And they're trying to do the same thing with Iraq. People are onto them and it's not working today. The MSM was the gold standard then. Now they're the crumbling example of what is wrong with America and a LOT of people know it!


11 posted on 05/01/2005 10:45:39 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infidel since 1970.)
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Morris doesn't say how many South Vietnamese were killed by the Communists after their victory in 1975. Has anyone made a serious effort to determine that figure?

Many thousands more must have died trying to escape by sea, but I would assume there is no way to tell how many--people who died on unseaworthy boats (like Elian Gonzalez's mother did trying to get away from another Communist paradise).

12 posted on 05/01/2005 10:51:42 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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The moral to this story is, that America called these brave men to defend our country, from the communist's ambitions. All gave some, some gave all. Each is owed a debt of gratitude by our nation and every one of us who enjoys the freedoms that are their legacy. God bless them all. End of story.


13 posted on 05/01/2005 10:52:34 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Yes, but for obvious reasons the Vietnamese government is not helping out. The best estimates I've seen put the numbers at several million between 1975 and 1982. The exact number will never be known, I'm afraid.


15 posted on 05/01/2005 10:57:41 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: aculeus

Wasn't Sen Kerry of Mass. one of those Viet Nam war criminals?


16 posted on 05/01/2005 11:00:43 AM PDT by Young Werther
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The New York Times, and their lot were partially to blame for the loss. They did everything they could to demean the war effort.

The exact same thing they are doing now.

17 posted on 05/01/2005 11:01:02 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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You're right

It's amazing anyone would consider the NY Times printing a legitimate story. They haven't in the past, and they mislead now. The US military were winning the war in Vietnam. What we lost was the peace after bugging out and failing to support the South Vietnamese afterwards. That support was expressly stopped by Democrats in congress.

18 posted on 05/01/2005 11:04:31 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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"And the one responsible for maligning our nation's Vietnam War Vets was nominated by his party last year to be its presidential nominee."

Yes, and they thought they'd get away with it. God Bless John O'Neil and the Swift Boat Vets for bursting that bubble!


19 posted on 05/01/2005 11:05:08 AM PDT by jocon307 (dang, I lost my tagline, again!)
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To: Young Werther
See my posts #3 and #10. Kerry claimed his fellow Vietnam Vets WERE war criminals. And that brought out the Swift Boat Vets to make sure he never rode into the White House on the backs of his politically motivated slander of decent Americans fighting and dying for their country in the jungles and rice paddies of Southeast Asia.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
20 posted on 05/01/2005 11:05:33 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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