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The Congressional Dems cutoff of financial aid to our allies was disgraceful and unforgivable.
1 posted on 05/01/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Agreed.

The lefties in Congress who did that have much innocent blood on their hands. It is truly shocking that some of them are still in Congrress today!


2 posted on 05/01/2005 10:38:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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And the one responsible for maligning our nation's Vietnam War Vets was nominated by his party last year to be its presidential nominee. That's what keeps haunting American society and political life to this day.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 05/01/2005 10:39:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Ping for later reading


4 posted on 05/01/2005 10:39:06 AM PDT by warsaw44
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The democrats believed/believe that our Vietnamese allies were nothing more than property to be disposed of by their keepers in any way they saw fit. They're not opposed to dictatorships because that's the only way they can stamp out the concept of the individual...but killing them


5 posted on 05/01/2005 10:40:11 AM PDT by jess35
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The Democrats undid the election of 1972 and tossed the Republican party into exile. 1974-80 were dark years for this country at home and abroad. It was a time the Democrats ran the show.

The squealed like castrated pigs when the Gipper stomped them in 1980.


6 posted on 05/01/2005 10:41:41 AM PDT by Luke21
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The New York Times, and their lot were partially to blame for the loss. They did everything they could to demean the war effort.


7 posted on 05/01/2005 10:42:10 AM PDT by Sthitch
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bump


8 posted on 05/01/2005 10:42:23 AM PDT by bubman
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The Congressional Dems cutoff of financial aid to our allies was disgraceful and unforgivable.

That combined with Lyndon Johnson's gross mismanagement and lack of principles was the deathblow for the Vietnam War. Their behavior was absolutely disgraceful and gave the liberal anti-war scum a victory beyond their wildest dreams.

Nowadays, they point to Vietnam and say, "See, nation-building is impossible. Winning against an insurgency is impossible." Their answer to tyrants like Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, the Khmer Rouge, and Rwanda is to do some token bitching, send them money, and kowtow to their murderous deeds because Vietnam "proved" that such intervention is morally wrong and impossible to change. Liberals are truly disgusting.

9 posted on 05/01/2005 10:43:53 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infidel since 1970.)
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Morris doesn't say how many South Vietnamese were killed by the Communists after their victory in 1975. Has anyone made a serious effort to determine that figure?

Many thousands more must have died trying to escape by sea, but I would assume there is no way to tell how many--people who died on unseaworthy boats (like Elian Gonzalez's mother did trying to get away from another Communist paradise).

12 posted on 05/01/2005 10:51:42 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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The moral to this story is, that America called these brave men to defend our country, from the communist's ambitions. All gave some, some gave all. Each is owed a debt of gratitude by our nation and every one of us who enjoys the freedoms that are their legacy. God bless them all. End of story.


13 posted on 05/01/2005 10:52:34 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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Wasn't Sen Kerry of Mass. one of those Viet Nam war criminals?


16 posted on 05/01/2005 11:00:43 AM PDT by Young Werther
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We did win the war. The North simply invaded in violation of a treaty.


21 posted on 05/01/2005 11:06:59 AM PDT by Casloy
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When I left Vietnam after my second tour in Sept 1967 I was convinced that we were winning the war. By the time I went back for my third tour in Sept 1969 we were on the ropes. Our troops were still fighting hard against regular NVA units (the VC had been all but destroyed during Tet 68) and morale was affected because the anti war factions and liberal politicians had convinced the American people that we lost the war during Tet 1968.

Nixon let us go into Cambodia after the communist in 1970 but even then the politicos tied our hands with time and distance limits. The communist just pulled back and let us get to that 25 mile limit and waited for us to leave when we got to the time limit.

The lessons learned were many, but no one wanted to listen or cared. Except that is for a small core of Junior officers who 20 years later kept the media on a short lists and demanded to be let do their jobs. The difference in one war was defeat and the other two wars was victory.
22 posted on 05/01/2005 11:07:54 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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A democrat is anti-American and pro enemy of the American People. It was not always so but during the 1970's the radical left took over the party and changed it into an anti-American radical bunch of scum bags.
24 posted on 05/01/2005 11:21:10 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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On another thread, a mopey liberal writes about the boomers being "the greediest generation." Not all of them. The American men and women who went to Viet Nam played a critical role in preventing the fullscale communist conquest of the Pacific rim. They did so by fighting in some of the most hostile environs imaginable, against an enemy who's ire had been greatly provoked for the prior decade by French Foreign Legionaires, many of them nazi's fleeing their own names.

When they came home, other members of their own generation who were too enlightened to fight spat on, shat on, and slandered them. The elected officials who had hung the vets out to dry, then had the unmitigated gall to solicit their votes, which, with a drop in the voting age, gave the left side of the boomer generation unprecedented power.

The height of esteem in which I hold our Viet Nam veterans is matched only by the depth of my contempt for the protestors. The ideological left is never any good for America, but with the numbers and power they had in this era, they did to American Culture and Society what a swarm of locusts does to a corn field.

The vast majority of contemporary American maladies, be they economic, spiritual, moral or cultural can be laid directly in the lap of the 60's-70's left.

25 posted on 05/01/2005 11:23:55 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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for later read


27 posted on 05/01/2005 11:27:25 AM PDT by baseballmom
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And .. they've tried to do the same in Iraq - which produced the famous "I voted for it before I voted against it" statement from Kerry.


34 posted on 05/01/2005 11:42:58 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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Is there a statute of limitations timetable on treason?


35 posted on 05/01/2005 11:43:20 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (If you must filibuster, let the Constitution do the talkin')
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Good article! The author's right. I remember.

So now, the traitors of that era want us to recognize communist VN today. Fine. But . .

Precisely because Vietnam has changed for the better, we need to recognize what a profoundly ideological and aggressive totalitarian regime we faced three, four and five decades ago. And out of respect for the evidence of history, we need to recognize what happened in the 1970's and why.

(We need to start at least as early as the 1968 Tet Offensive.)

What the author writes was not unknown at the time.

But the American Press had its eye on the General Giap coveted "Most Valuable Guerrilla" award and they were not to be denied that award.

I say that given the extra years, the tens of thousands of needless deaths of our military and our allied military dead and VN's civilian dead the press scum of that era, the political scum of that era, the academic scum of that era, the Hollywood scum of that era should all be tried for treason.

North Viet Nam's most trusted man in America, Walter Cronkite, spooked LBJ with his distorted reporting to the American public beginning in 1968.

I did not serve in Viet Nam and I am not an expert but IMO had LBJ backed U.S. military requests as our troops virtually annihilated the Viet Cong the North clearly would have started serious peace talks -- just as their post war writings admit. But good 'ol Walter, et al. went to work for their Ho in Hanoi.

36 posted on 05/01/2005 11:44:55 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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Just my opinion but I think most of the anti-war protestors were not anti-war but simply wanted the Communists to win.

Same goes for a large part of the media, congress and academia.

37 posted on 05/01/2005 11:47:15 AM PDT by yarddog
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