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Kids, blogs and too much information (MSM confuses Blogs / forums again. Sky falling)
NBC ^ | 4/29/2005 | Bob Sullivan

Posted on 04/29/2005 10:09:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory

Marcy's 13-year-old daughter has a knack for switching computer screens or shutting the laptop when mom walks in the room. Like in many families, the two often argue about whether mom has the right to see what her daughter is doing online. The conversation is never really resolved. But a few months ago, Marcy's need to keep up with her daughter's Internet travels took on a new urgency when she found an unfinished message on the screen urging a friend to check out her daughter's picture on a special Web page her daughter had set up. With that, Marcy made a discovery thousands of parents around the country are making -- teenagers are among the most active Internet bloggers, and many are posting pictures, names, addresses, schools, even phone numbers, almost always without their parent's knowledge. "It blew me away," said Marcy, who requested her full name not be used. "And I just lost it. I sat my daughter down and said, 'Do you realize how inappropriate and how dangerous this is? Here's your face. Here's the town you come from. Do you realize how many sick people are out there?' " To see her daughter's site, Marcy had to sign up with a service named MySpace.com. When she did, she found her daughter's page, personal information, and pictures. But she also found a list of her daughter's friends, and made another discovery -- almost all of her 8th-grade classmates at George Washington Middle School in suburban Ridgewood, N.J. had pages on MySpace. "And their pictures are very provocative," Marcy said. "There's shots with their butt in the air, with their thongs sticking out of it. They squeeze their elbows together to make their boobs look bigger." One-third of students have blogs Soon after, ...

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Before it was children on chat rooms. Now its children on "blogs". Perhaps the NBC is more concerned about children on conservative sites (forums), learning conservative values.

or ever WORSE: ENGAGING THEIR BRAINS in contradiction to thoughtcrime, or leftist indoctrination.

The media does enough NOT covering real news in favor of leftist propaganda, they are now left to desperatly try and enroll parents by couching real concerns of internet diaries with efforts to save MSM gravitas.

1 posted on 04/29/2005 10:09:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
Before it was children on chat rooms. Now its children on "blogs". Perhaps the NBC is more concerned about children on conservative sites (forums), learning conservative values.

Perhaps. But how do you deal with the problem described - just ignore it?

2 posted on 04/29/2005 10:14:59 AM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent

I agree there is a real problem burried here, but I also think they are doing nobody a public service by confusing chat rooms, forums, and personal blogs.

If the author had simply said "internet diary" then it would have been more useful.

Below the excerpted part, the author admits there have been no pedophile cases attached to what the author called "blogs".

This is also as teachable to children as simply as parents teach do not talk to strangers.


3 posted on 04/29/2005 10:21:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Marcy's 13-year-old daughter has a knack for switching computer screens or shutting the laptop when mom walks in the room."

If you can't let your mom see what you are doing on the computer, you should not be doing it.

4 posted on 04/29/2005 10:23:31 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: longtermmemmory
..the two often argue about whether mom has the right to see what her daughter is doing online. The conversation is never really resolved.

Here's how I "resolve" such things with my 13-year-old: You're banned from using the computer unless I'm there with you. Any unauthorized use of the computer on your part will result in you being banned entirely.

I am constantly amazed at the problems caused by parents refusing to parent.

5 posted on 04/29/2005 10:26:58 AM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

Yeah, and what mother of an eighth grader would buy her thong underwear?


6 posted on 04/29/2005 10:32:28 AM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: longtermmemmory

I found out my 17 year old daughter at a site on myspace.com from a friend of my 23=year old daughter. The friend was searching myspace.com and saw my daughter's site with pics of my daughter, and ugly comments made by some viewers. It was a nasty experience. Loads of my 17 year old daughter's highschool contemporaries have sites on myspace.com.


7 posted on 04/29/2005 10:34:32 AM PDT by peacebaby (I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house. Zsa Zsa Gabor)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
Here's how I "resolve" such things with my 13-year-old: You're banned from using the computer unless I'm there with you. Any unauthorized use of the computer on your part will result in you being banned entirely.

No kidding. End of conversation, no argument needed.

8 posted on 04/29/2005 10:36:50 AM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: The Right Stuff

a woman who want to be her daughter's frieeeeeend and not mother. (as a means of reliving the childhood she never wanted to leave.)


9 posted on 04/29/2005 10:36:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: eyespysomething

And no doubt!

My little one will not get anywhere near an internet connected PC unless mom or dad is with her.

And once that gets impossible to enforce, I'll put spyware on the PC's so that I know what is going on.


10 posted on 04/29/2005 10:43:17 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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Right now I can just turn off the monitor and they come to me telling me something is wrong with the computer because it won't come on, or else I turn off the main power to the tower in the back.

That won't last for long though. Then yes, parental spyware and locks.

Heck, I don't even let my 9 y.o. son have a TV in his room, and his friends think I'm crazy!


11 posted on 04/29/2005 10:48:47 AM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
If you can't let your mom see what you are doing on the computer, you should not be doing it.

I'd go the other way, if you can't see what your kids doing on the computer, then they shouldn't be allowed to use it.

Its natural that kids are going to want privacy, but its up to parents to make sure their kids are safe by monitoring them.

12 posted on 04/29/2005 10:50:37 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: The Right Stuff
Yeah, and what mother of an eighth grader would buy her thong underwear?

Sadly, to many.

Last year, while I was getting my MBA, I did a project about some companies and problems with NGO's.

Ambercombie and Fitch was one of those companies, and they were looking to create a thong made for small children (we're talking around 8 or 9 years old). The designs on it, was childish images.

I was disgusted, and sickened. It was like looking at a wish list of a child molester.

Any mother (or father) who buys their young child a thong, or lets them have them, needs help or is just unfit.

13 posted on 04/29/2005 10:55:16 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: eyespysomething
I don't even let my 9 y.o. son have a TV in his room, and his friends think I'm crazy!

Your either going to laught, think I'm nuts or a geek, but when I was in High School, and I had a TV in my room (with cable), I started putting parental blocks on certain channels (my cable box had porn on it).

In retrospect, if my friends had known that, they would have mocked the hell out of me.

14 posted on 04/29/2005 11:01:21 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: eyespysomething
Heck, I don't even let my 9 y.o. son have a TV in his room, and his friends think I'm crazy!

My almost 8 year old daughter was asking me about a tv in her room. (My answer, as always, was absolutely not!) She said most other kids in her class have them and can't believe she doesn't.

15 posted on 04/29/2005 11:05:06 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Sonny M
Your either going to laught, think I'm nuts or a geek,

All of the above, but you probably knew it was wrong. At least you resisted the temptation.

16 posted on 04/29/2005 11:06:18 AM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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I know, when he has friends spend the night, they want to sit in his room and watch movies. I say nope, you can sit out here in the family room. And ones who say they can't fall asleep without a TV on? I tell them they can in my house. And guess what? They do!

I'm just a meanie. I also make my kids play outside too much, I'm sure, lol.


17 posted on 04/29/2005 11:07:56 AM PDT by eyespysomething (hmmm....)
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To: eyespysomething

Both of my husbands (ex and current) were raised with televisions in their rooms. Both to this day have insomnia problems and problems falling asleep in a quiet room. It's a habit that can ruin them for life.


18 posted on 04/29/2005 11:10:46 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: eyespysomething

Both of my husbands (ex and current) were raised with televisions in their rooms. Both to this day have insomnia problems and problems falling asleep in a quiet room. It's a habit that can ruin them for life.


19 posted on 04/29/2005 11:10:47 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: eyespysomething

Uh huh.

We (my wife and I) have already decided to homeschool, to strictly monitor the internet usage, and to be careful of what we allow on the SINGLE family room TV.

Our children are NOT going to develop this "grow-up-quick" mentality that much of today's youth have adopted. Our daughter will NOT dress like a tramp at 10 years old, no matter what her friends are wearing. No music with "adult" lyrics, etc., etc. No $100 shoes or jeans. No "because it's cool!" allowed.

We are going to be "parents" not "best friends". We will eat dinner together as a family, and we will not be so bogged down with extracurricular activities that none of us has time to breathe and enjoy life.

Time to slow down and return to the pre-60's values. It's all "for our children's sake".


20 posted on 04/29/2005 11:20:59 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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