Confederacy of the determined - (Southern heritage buffs vow "Confederate History Month")

WASHINGTON TIMES.COM ^ | APRIL 24, 2005 | Christina Bellantoni

[CHARLITE]

Southern heritage buffs vow to use the Virginia gubernatorial election as a platform for designating April as Confederate History and Heritage Month.

The four candidates have differing views on the Confederacy, an issue that has been debated for years in the commonwealth.

"We're not just a few people making a lot of noise," said Brag Bowling, a spokesman for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the oldest hereditary organization for male descendents of Confederate soldiers. "This is not a racial thing; it is good for Virginia. We're going to keep pushing this until we get it."

Each candidate recently shared his thoughts on what Mr. Bowling called a "litmus test for all politicians." Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine would not support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Former state Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore would support something that recognizes everyone who lived during the Civil War.

Sen. H. Russell Potts Jr. and Warrenton Mayor George B. Fitch would support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Many past Virginia governors honored the Civil War or the Confederacy.

In 1990, former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder, the nation's first black governor, a Democrat and a grandson of slaves, issued a proclamation praising both sides of the war and remembering "those who sacrificed in this great struggle."

Former Govs. George Allen and James S. Gilmore III, both Republicans, issued Confederate History Month proclamations. In 2000, Mr. Gilmore replaced that proclamation with one commemorating both sides of the Civil War -- a move that enraged the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Gov. Mark Warner, a Democrat, has refused to issue a gubernatorial decree on either side of the Civil War.

Mr. Kaine, another Democrat, would decline to issue a Confederate History and Heritage Month proclamation if he is elected governor, said his campaign spokeswoman, Delacey Skinner.

[stand watie]

my understanding is that Kirk is one of the FEW lawyers from his home state who represents MANY indigent defendants, of ALL sorts based ONLY on their INability to pay for adequate legal counsel.

i'm sure you'll find some LEFTIST idiot, who disagrees.

btw, i wonder what your coven members will make of the FACT that the shysters of the SCLC were ALSO there at the klan rally???? do you believe they too are PRO-klan???

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[stand watie]

YES or NO, do you believe DISRUPTING CSA memorial services at cemeteries with drums,horns, screaming & loud cursing is MORAL and/or DECENT????

that's what this is REALLY about.

and YES, we Virginians will get our MONTH for remembrance of the hero-martyrs of the CSA.

btw, the only person i know who sings DIXIE louder & WORSE than i do is former VA Governor Doug Wilder.(he is a PROUD CSA descendant!)

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[M. Espinola]

"you have no idea, because you are CLUELESS! nobody else here had any problem with that simple concept/sentence."

You are referring to the Internet listed affidavit from from old Kirk Lyons himself?

Myself & everyone else realizes how difficult it is for you to respond to documented evidence concerning your pal there, Kirk, keeping company with some the worst neo-confederate separatist trash in this country, even David Duke.

Would you know anything about this little item?

"February 7th, 2003, Kirk Lyons responds to news he is named in connection to espionage case."

How about this one?

"February 18th, 2004, Kirk Lyons Sanctioned Under Rule 11in Virginia Va. Eastern District Court Judge fines Kirk Lyons $10,000 and his clients $27,550 under Rule 11"

Photos of old Kirk

Stand are you also aware of Kirk's freely given interviews in The Klansman?

Are you are going to respond by screaming & yelling saying, 'It's all lies, you damnyankee', LOL, or will the couple of other members of the neo-confederate crowd speak for you, this time? Make my day!

[N. Beaujon]

WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING? Sheesh. The article was about designating April as Confederate History and Heritage Month. I think that is stupid and wrong. As far as a bunch of big mouths disrupting anyone's (I assume private) memorial service, I am against it. I think it's disrespectful, illegal, obnoxious and it sounds like the kind of infantile tactic a liberal would use. If you're talking about a public memorial service, you'd have to give me the circumstances. But if you want any answer from me you can cut the histrionics as well as the shouting.

[rustbucket]

This thread is asking the country to reserve a month to honor the confederate war dead.

This thread is about Virginia proclaiming April as Confederate History and Heritage Month in Virginia, not the country as a whole. Virginia has done so in the past. It is a major part of Virginia history.

I hope you realize you can ignore such national or state proclamations if you so desire. Or should I presume that you've gone out and hugged a cow today since June is National Dairy Month?

[stand watie]

what a SILLY response.

can you think of ANY memorial service at ANY church/synagogue/cemetery anyplace at which it would be OK to disrupt the memorial service with drums/horns/shouting/cursing????

if you DO believe that any such circumstances exist, PLEASE tell us under what circumstances you believe it would be OK to disrupt the service.

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[stand watie]

rotflmRao!

well said.

[stand watie]

btw, only TWITS are really disturbed by all caps on FR.

are you a twit??

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[stand watie]

"I'm a lawyer &----------"

i KNEW there was something "amiss" with you.

fwiw,like most LEOs, i'm NOT a fan of lawyers, as a group.

MOST member of the bar will do anything for money. ANYTHING!

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[M. Espinola]

Come big mouth what's your response to those facts on Kirk or are you too much of a coward to confront the issue head on?

[Gianni]

Or should I presume that you've gone out and hugged a cow today since June is National Dairy Month?

You didn't RB?

The fact is that the sun doesn't rise on a day that's not dedicated to someone or something... it's one of the little PR stunts that politicians have in their back pocket to woo voters. Roughly a million Americans died in the recent unpleasantness - that some think only 2/3 of them deserve recognition is beyond sick.

[stand watie]

what facts, moron????

common gossip, more likely.

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[stand watie]

YEP!

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[M. Espinola]

"what facts, moron???? common gossip, more likely."

Very interesting that you consider Kirk's own words 'common gossip'

Kirk and his neo-nazi, kkk-confederate comrades just might show up at this most recent court trail defending one of their own kind in Miss against murder charges.

[stand watie]

yet ANOTHER stupid, fact-free post from a presumed RACIST & FR-dummy.

SMART FReepers are lol AT you. of course you're too dumb to know that.

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[Heyworth]

yet ANOTHER stupid, fact-free post

What part of "Lyons says it himself, on his own website" don't you understand?

What's wrong, Watie? Is your fragile world view crumbling? The more you try to deny the truth, which Lyons himself admits, the more you look like a desperate crackpot.

Of course, making you do that on a daily basis is the whole point.

[N. Beaujon]

what a SILLY response. can you think of ANY memorial service at ANY church/synagogue/cemetery anyplace at which it would be OK to disrupt the memorial service with drums/horns/shouting/cursing????...etc., etc.

Yeah, I think it would be OK to disrupt a bunch of holocaust deniers mourning their Nazi war dead, I can think of a memorial service to a few dead Klansman where I wouldn’t mind a bullhorn amplifying MLK's "Letter from Birmingham Jail" or just about anything from Fredrick Douglas. You get the idea. As long as they’re using public property it wouldn’t break my heart to hear a few interruptions

[N. Beaujon]

btw, only TWITS are really disturbed by all caps on FR. are you a twit?? free dixie,sw

lol. Golly, stand, that was a mighty intelligent comeback. I haven't heard the word "twit" since I was in kindergarten. I think only a twit would ever even consider using that term or should I say "dork"?

Grow up.

[stand watie]

well, different strokes for different folks i guess.

offhand, i can't imagine ANY decent person DISRUPTING a funeral/memorial service for ANY person(s). (even for billy sherman, whose troops slaughtered 92 members of my family, just because they were NOT white people. as most here know, i'm NO FAN of sherman.)

imVho, such a disruption would mark any such a person as "garbage in human form".

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[stand watie]

i'd guess i've spent too many years with Brits. "twit" is FREQUENTLY used in GB by all ages.

fwiw, i also sometimes say "ponce", when describing a "certain sort" of upper-class "twit".

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