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Confederacy of the determined - (Southern heritage buffs vow "Confederate History Month")
WASHINGTON TIMES.COM ^ | APRIL 24, 2005 | Christina Bellantoni

Posted on 04/24/2005 6:08:20 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Southern heritage buffs vow to use the Virginia gubernatorial election as a platform for designating April as Confederate History and Heritage Month.

The four candidates have differing views on the Confederacy, an issue that has been debated for years in the commonwealth.

"We're not just a few people making a lot of noise," said Brag Bowling, a spokesman for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the oldest hereditary organization for male descendents of Confederate soldiers. "This is not a racial thing; it is good for Virginia. We're going to keep pushing this until we get it."

Each candidate recently shared his thoughts on what Mr. Bowling called a "litmus test for all politicians." Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine would not support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Former state Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore would support something that recognizes everyone who lived during the Civil War.

Sen. H. Russell Potts Jr. and Warrenton Mayor George B. Fitch would support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Many past Virginia governors honored the Civil War or the Confederacy.

In 1990, former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder, the nation's first black governor, a Democrat and a grandson of slaves, issued a proclamation praising both sides of the war and remembering "those who sacrificed in this great struggle."

Former Govs. George Allen and James S. Gilmore III, both Republicans, issued Confederate History Month proclamations. In 2000, Mr. Gilmore replaced that proclamation with one commemorating both sides of the Civil War -- a move that enraged the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

Gov. Mark Warner, a Democrat, has refused to issue a gubernatorial decree on either side of the Civil War.

Mr. Kaine, another Democrat, would decline to issue a Confederate History and Heritage Month proclamation if he is elected governor, said his campaign spokeswoman, Delacey Skinner.

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To: Gianni

Hawkeye Bump!


2,121 posted on 06/09/2005 8:08:59 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
"Klan still uses Old Glory."

Whatever the use in their sick minds is a symbol of hate due to the fact they only live for hate.

"Don't try to blame it all on the CBF nor the South. Plenty of klan up in ya'lls' neck of the woods."

Is there an English translation for ya'lls'

There has to be a reason the Klan picked the former Confederate flag and not the Rhode Island flag -lol

In terms of the lice be outside the South, unfortunately cancer spreads, everyone knows that.

2,122 posted on 06/09/2005 8:23:41 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: Gianni
"In five years on FR, I've never seen Espinola, Refugio, Whiskeypooper, or you post the association without at least someone giving them a lashing for it."

Cool off a little, relax. You don't want to begin raving & ranting like Mr. Stand, do you?


2,123 posted on 06/09/2005 9:17:24 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

Cool off? Nothing hot-headed about pointing out that mac is "at it again," and so is Espinola.


2,124 posted on 06/10/2005 3:07:42 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: wardaddy
Klan still uses Old Glory. Don't try to blame it all on the CBF nor the South.

That's not my point and you know it.

Its too bad the Confederate Battle Flag was usurped by the KKK and their political front group(s) in the 1950s, but that is indeed what happened. With nary a peep from the folks who comprise today's Heritage not Hate crowd either. If there had been an outcry from the so-called southern historical preservation groups and/or the SCV at that time , ya'll might have prevented the CBF from being distorted into the racist symbol it is perceived of as today.

2,125 posted on 06/10/2005 7:29:06 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: M. Espinola
when are you going to REpost your #645, so that everyone can see & judge if YOU are a RACIST & a BIGOT of massive proportions????

free dixie,sw

2,126 posted on 06/10/2005 7:56:11 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola; All
MORE STUPID, ignorance from FR's chief laughingstock!

posting pictures & silly cartoons just exposes you as the DUNCE-in-chief.

free dixie,sw

2,127 posted on 06/10/2005 7:57:50 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola; All
the same thing that the ACLU was doing there.= being a LAWYER.

if Kirk was at a contractor's convention, would that make him a BUILDING???

face it, you're too all-around DUMB to be on FR. head over to DU to sup with Whisky Papa, cvn76, #3fan & the other BANNED freepers from the unionist/STATIST/REVISIONIST coven of DUNCES.

free dixie,sw

2,128 posted on 06/10/2005 8:01:06 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: mac_truck
opinions are like bellybuttons. everyone has one & mostly they stink.

frankly, i don't know anyone here who cares what you UNFOUNDED & DUMB opinion is, with the exception of the most extreme members of the unionist coven of DUNCES.

free dixie,sw

2,129 posted on 06/10/2005 8:03:06 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: Pelham; All
nope. he/she did NOT. he/she is a STRANGER to either common courtesy & manners.

also, judging ONLY from his/her multitude of DUMB posts, he/she is a HATER & a BIGOT.

in one case, he/she posted a RACIST post against American Indian traditions & culture that was PULLED, because it was so OFFENSIVE.

ask him/her to REpost #645 & see for yourself what sort of person he/she is.

free dixie,sw

2,130 posted on 06/10/2005 8:08:22 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: wardaddy; All
in point of fact, the NATIONAL HQ of the KKK is in OHIO, which the last time i looked at a map was NOT a southern state.

NYC had more KLAN-IDIOTS in 2004 than AL,GA,MS & LA COMBINED, according to "KlanWatch." (quoted on the History Channel, last month)

damnyankeeland is welcome to ALL the klan-MORONS. we southerners want NONE of them.

free dixie,sw

2,131 posted on 06/10/2005 8:12:45 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: mac_truck; All
once more, what you said is NOT CORRECT & i suspect you KNOW that.

the SCV & UDC have gone to federal courts repeatedly (since 1950!) to try to protect our CSA symbols from IDIOTS like the KKK & the White Citizens Council.

ALL the federal courts have found that the MISuse/display of CSA flags CANNOT be denied to ANYONE, any more than MISuse/display of the US flag can be denied to anyone.

free dixie,sw

2,132 posted on 06/10/2005 8:17:49 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: mac_truck; All
WRONG ANSWER!

at the last KLAN-march in DC there was over a THOUSAND US FLAGS displayed, but NOT even ONE CBF. (thank goodness for that!)

btw, since you are SO CONCERNED about the KKK, why aren't you out picketing the US Capitol every day, demanding that Robert KKK Byrd be BANNED from the Senate of the USA??? (doing THAT might just be worth something.)

free dixie,sw

2,133 posted on 06/10/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: mac_truck; Gianni; M. Espinola
From the 1950's through the 1970s (and beyond) the KKK has used the CBF extensively as a symbol of 'white power' with nary a peep from the Southern Heritage crowd.

I remember complaints about its misuse made by the UDC and other Southern Heritage groups. Here is what a book review about a book on the Confederate Flag says about it (Link):

All along, such guardians as the United Daughters of the Confederacy and Sons of Confederate Veterans deplored this abuse. In 1948, when the hustings were loud with revivified Confederate rhetoric, and Dixiecrat rallies tended to be festooned with battle flags, the UDC pointedly condemned the flag's use in "any political movement."

I don't have that book myself, but I did find the following in its index:

[under the UDC]: "campaign to prevent misuse of Confederate flag, 106, 123, 160, 161–166, 167, 168, 172, 255"

[under the SCV]: campaign to prevent misuse of the Confederate flag, 123, 166, 167, 168–169, 175–176, 176–177, 192–194, 196, 255

IIRC, the UDC was against incorporating the Confederate Battle Flag into the Georgia state flag in 1956.

2,134 posted on 06/10/2005 8:32:04 AM PDT by rustbucket
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To: Gianni
EXACTLY!

BOTH are "emptyheads".

free dixie,sw

2,135 posted on 06/10/2005 8:34:35 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: rustbucket; All
don't confuse the HATE-FILLED damnyankee "coven of dunces & bigots" with FACTS, as it upsets them.

free dixie,sw

2,136 posted on 06/10/2005 8:36:45 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
if Kirk was at a contractor's convention, would that make him a BUILDING???

No, but it would make him a person likely to be closely tied to contractors.

And what if Kirk's wedding ceremony was performed by Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler? What conclusion could we draw from that? If you want to do the Kirk Lyons dance again, we can. There's plenty of material there.

2,137 posted on 06/10/2005 9:15:36 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: stand watie
in point of fact, the NATIONAL HQ of the KKK is in OHIO, which the last time i looked at a map was NOT a southern state.

Another Watie lie, oft-repeated but never true. The fact is that there is no "NATIONAL HQ" of the Klan.

You just cited Klanwatch. Here's what they say on their website about the current organization of the KKK:

"Since the 1970s the Klan has been greatly weakened by internal conflicts, court cases, a seemingly endless series of splits and government infiltration. While some factions have preserved an openly racist and militant approach, others have tried to enter the mainstream, cloaking their racism as mere "civil rights for whites." Today, the Center estimates that there are a total of 5,500 to 6,000 Klan members, split among scores of different -- and often warring -- organizations that use the Klan name."

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp?T=19&m=3

2,138 posted on 06/10/2005 9:23:45 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: mac_truck; stand watie; stainlessbanner

Well it happened before my time but I still bitch about the usurping.

I bitch about the long term ursurping of Old Glory too.

I am really still pissed that Gay pirates usurped the Jolly Roger as well.

and don't get me started on the Celtic Cross....Abe Foxman and Morris Dees (yer pal) now claim it is used as a symbol of hate.

....like the one on my left shoulder I reckon...lol


2,139 posted on 06/10/2005 1:16:38 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
it happened before my time too. however my grandfather fought the klan in the 20's & my father did so in the 50s. (kkk-morons HATE AmerIndians at least as much as they HATE Jews, Roman Catholics & Blacks!)

i'd guess it's my turn, if i get the chance.

the KLAN is still a mixed bag of nuts,filth,scum, morons,haters,bigots, faggots,wierdos & COMMON CRIMINALS.

all too many of them are DAMNyankees, who UNsucessfully try to co-opt our CBF. (fwiw, i'd sooner have the KKK HQ in OH than ANYWHERE in dixie. we have enough GARBAGE of our own down here, without them.)

free dixie,sw

2,140 posted on 06/10/2005 2:31:53 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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