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Inside the Mind of a Creationist (Hope is Alive in California!)
Metro: Silicon Valley Weekly Newspaper ^ | April 21, 2005 | Najeeb Hasan

Posted on 04/21/2005 4:34:42 AM PDT by gobucks

In the last year, Silicon Valley has been a center of a showdown over religious beliefs in public schools. Meet the other side. LYNN HOFLAND often talks faster than he thinks. For Hofland, it seems the circumstances demand it. A creationist, he happily espouses a point of view that mainstream culture considers ridiculous and unenlightened.

The earth, according to Hofland, is about 6,000 years old. God created it in six 24-hour days. And, of course, evolution is just a theory.

Most people around here will shake their heads and wonder how anyone could think that in this day and age. But for Hofland, it's a basic foundation of his belief system.

And his belief system came to the South Bay in a big way last fall when Stephen Williams, a fifth-grade teacher at Stevens Creek Elementary School in Cupertino, filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the Cupertino Union School District (and against Stevens Creek Elementary's principal), claiming he had been discriminated against because he was Christian. Williams, backed by the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal organization engaged in contesting cultural issues across the nation, said that his principal stopped him from handing out historical materials in class that referenced God. After an initial Drudge Report headline about the Declaration of Independence being "banned" at a California school, Williams' case was egged on by right-wing radio and blogs. Sean Hannity, of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, brought his show to the Flint Center in Cupertino for a special "Take Back America" broadcast.

Mark Thomas was one of the panelists for that broadcast. Thomas, the president of the Atheists of Silicon Valley (www.godlessgeeks.com), believes everything that Hofland does not. He believes men came from monkeys. He believes the animate sprung from the inanimate; the concept even has a scientific-sounding word for it: abiogenesis.

Thomas has met Hofland on more than one occasion; he even went so far as to give Hofland the floor during one of his atheist meetings held bimonthly in the community room of his townhouse complex in Mountain View. But the truth is, he thinks Hofland is a kook. Or, if Hofland's not a kook himself, that his ideas about the origins of life are definitely kooky.

"It's rather irritating to get into these conversations about the origins of life with him," says Thomas. "You keep coming back with God did this, God did that. The problem is for him there are no contradictions because he's right. In some ways you can't refute him. God could have created the world a hundred years ago with everything looking as though it were ancient. You can't disprove it. God could have created the universe a day ago with everything, including people's memories intact. You can't disprove that."

Evolution of an Anti-Evolutionist

Hofland may think the world was created in six days, but it took him a lot longer than that to arrive at that belief—30 years and then some, in fact. Born in Montana, near Missoula (he still mixes Montana wheat into homemade breads and waffles), Hofland, now 50, has always had a Midwestern sensibility. He graduated from high school (his mother was his eighth-grade biology teacher), but flunked out of college after a year and a half. Then, he did a six-year stint in the Navy, floating around the South Pacific on a nuclear submarine.

"My background," he admits, "did not lend itself to me being a creationist."

Of all things, it was a subsequent job at NASA, where he's still employed today, that led Hofland to discard the evolutionism he had grown up with. Watching NASA scientists taking lessons from the physiology of giraffes to develop gravity suits for astronauts (the thick-skinned giraffe boasts a unique blood pressure for mammals, which is especially helpful for outer-space modeling) eventually convinced Hofland to do his own research into the giraffe—an animal, as it turns out, that has been widely used in creationist arguments.

What he found, he says, converted him. The giraffe, he learned, has seven neck bones (the norm, for many mammals), even though, as far as he could tell, there's no reason why evolution wouldn't have demanded the number of the giraffe's neck bones increase with the size of its neck. Hofland was also amazed at the giraffe's capability to withstand extreme blood pressure (due to its height) in its legs, and to adjust the pressure when it bends its head down to drink water—without its reinforced artery walls, its collection of valves and a "web" of small blood vessels, intense pressure would reach the giraffe's brain every time it bends its head. Not to mention what Hofland considers the miraculous design of the giraffe's birthing process—the new calf, which drops into the world from a height of five feet, cannot fall neither head or feet first, as both positions would end up breaking its neck; instead, the giraffe maneuvers a "perfect" exit, hind feet first and supporting its flexible neck around its shoulders.

Before he learned all this, Hofland insists, he, always scientifically inclined, was very much an ardent evolutionist. But, after his study, he ended up penning an article which became the basis for a new creationist ministry he calls Stiffneck Ministries.

"I had to struggle with this, but when I did my homework, I was convinced the giraffe was created," he says. "And, if the giraffe was created, then I was created, and, if I was created, then I had some answering to do for my life."

Thomas, however, is hardly impressed by Hofland's conversion. "I'm very well aware of his Stiffneck Ministries and his giraffes," says Thomas, with an exasperated tone. "His arguments are false; they are completely false. Giraffes have evolved over a period of time, and it's not a very good system. Giraffes have a lot of problems, many babies die during birth because they have a long distance to fall, but it works well enough for them to survive."

Thomas has little patience for Hofland's logic. "What creationist and intelligent designers like to point out is, basically, 'Isn't X amazing? I don't understand how X could be. Therefore, there must be something else that designed X and that created X. I don't understand what this other thing is either, but it must exist, because I don't understand X. That's fallacious reasoning."

Tie For First: The way Lynn Hofland's neckwear pointedly quotes the opening of the Christian Bible leaves no doubt as to where he stands on the question of life's origin.

Putting God Into Schools

Hofland was in the audience for the Hannity special in Cupertino. For him, the hubbub was about nothing other than certain people—in this case, the elementary school's administrators and the concerned parents—being too "sensitive." The United States, Hofland likes to say, is largely a Christian nation, though Hofland's definition of what a "Christian" nation is seems to vary subtly with the context. Sometimes, as in the case of Cupertino's Williams, who Hofland argues was only distributing material that reflected the roots and realities of the United States, the nation's very Christian; sometimes it's not Christian enough.

Even the question of what "Christian" belief is in regard to creationism has shifted over time.

"The irony, of course, in all of this creation science stuff is that modern conservative Christians are not the equivalent of their 19th-century counterparts," says J. David Pleins, a professor of religion at Santa Clara University.

Pleins, who has written extensively about readings of Genesis, argues young earth creationism—Hofland's view of a 6,000-year-old history—wasn't always a traditional Christian perspective.

"In the 19th century, you people who we would today call fundamentalist or conservative Christians, who didn't think the earth was young. They were anti-evolution Christians; they were against Darwin, but they believed the earth was old because they believe that the science told us about all these ancient lost eras. And so you had conservative Christians who were committed to an old-earth creationism. That seems to be an option that's lost today, and it's lost not because of the Scopes trial."

Instead, Pleins contends that a book, The Genesis Flood, put young earth creationism on the map. "It argued that science, rewritten and interpreted differently, would validate a literal reading of the Bible, so with creation science, you get a commitment from all conservative Christians committed to a young earth reading of the text. That's new."

The reasons behind the shift in perspective are strikingly similar to the modern fundamentalist worries that Christianity would erode away if not somehow protected, which results in a defensive posture by the Christian right in the American culture wars. The book's authors, says Pleins, thought that "if you give away the literal reading of the Bible, you start giving up the biblical truth. Where would you stop?"

Similarly, Hofland wants to establish the Bible's authority in America's public schools.

"There's nothing wrong with the Bible being added as a reference text," he insists. "If the science classroom is asking questions about how old the earth is, then this"—Hofland pats a tiny blue Bible—"is as good of a reference as rocks in the ground."

Employing Hofland's logic, solutions for teaching evolution in public schools would, seemingly, become exercises in political correctness.

"Question number one," Hofland says, "could be according to the theory of evolution; question number two could be according to the theory of creation; question number three could be according to the Buddhism or whatever. Or something like that."

Hofland may seem to be far out of the mainstream, but his beliefs have made some inroads in popular culture, as seen in cases like that of the Atlanta school district that voted in 2002 to put stickers in biology textbooks which stated that evolution is "a theory not a fact." A federal judge ruled that the stickers had to be removed.

Others who criticize the way evolution is taught in public schools say they aren't necessarily creationists, but simply believe God has been pushed too far out of the debate over life's origins. In 1998, after receiving a letter co-signed by two widely respected religious scholars, Huston Smith and Alvin Plantinga, the National Association of Biology Teachers was forced to edit its definition of what to teach about evolution in schools. The association had described evolution as "unsupervised" and "impersonal"; Smith and Plantinga argued there was no scientific basis for those descriptors, and the association ended up agreeing, deleting the two words.

At NASA, Hofland often visits an artistic depiction of the origins of human life that has been put up in a building neighboring his workspace. The depiction, a colorful painting that, from left to right, shows the evolutionary stages of life through bold white lines. It begins with volcanoes exploding, moves on to micro-organisms in the oceans, to various kinds of mammals in the forests, to cave men, and finally to modern man driving along a highway.

"I did meet the artist, the original artist," he says of the painting. "At first, he told me they told him to paint all the volcanoes exploding. Then, they told him, Oh that was too much, that would cause a nuclear winter and shut everything down, so they only had two volcanoes that were exploding and the rest were dormant. And see, they keep changing their view of what happened."


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To: Labyrinthos
. . . please provide at least one objective piece of evidence to support your view . . .

How about whale bones in the desert as evidence for a world wide deluge?

41 posted on 04/21/2005 6:43:36 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: bigcat32
My answer to that challenge is to read a book called "Darwin's Black Box". I think the author's name is Michael Behe. If you're serious about getting an answer to your question you will read this book.

The vast majority of Darwin's Black Box is dedicated to shooting down the theory of evolution rather than providing positive, objective evidence of intelligent design a/k/a creationism. The author takes the view that intelligent design must be the force behind life as we know it because Darwinism is less than perfect. I could justy as easily say that every spieces of life was placed on earth by extra terrestrials and since you can't disprove my theory, it must be true. That is not science, my friend.

42 posted on 04/21/2005 6:44:40 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: jwalsh07
Bioengineering. In other words, if man can do it surely it is possible that somebody or something else could do it. ID is a fact, we can do it, we can observe it, we can repeat it. Adaptation and mutation are facts. We can observe them as well.

While your "proof" by itself doesn't really prove anything, your response is at least well-reasoned and intelligent. The next question is who created the "somebody or something else?"

43 posted on 04/21/2005 6:48:30 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: narby
Note the various denominations, and the fact that even creationists fall into different camps of old-earth and young-earth, and various forms in between.

Oh, I see. Andf from this we should understand that all evolutionists are in perfect agreement, and therefore the philosophy of evolution is the only world view worthy of acceptance in public education.

44 posted on 04/21/2005 6:49:22 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: weegee
How did man get to South America? Boats from the Southern Hemisphere? Walking down from "Canada"?

Yes and yes.

45 posted on 04/21/2005 6:53:02 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: weegee
Piltdown man has since been stricken from the record but once "he" was a crucial link.

Actually, Piltdown man was exposed as a hoax because it didn't fit anywhere.

No one ever admitted commiting the fraud. If you don't believe evolution, how do you know it is a fraud? What line of reasoning would you use to prove Piltdown is a fraud?

Better to admit to students that we DON'T know everything.

Good idea. And good teachers do this. Working science is all about what we don't know. Why would anyone want to be a scientist if everything is known?

I think a course in comparative religion should be allowed in high school. It would not be a science course.

If the left truly believes in Darwinism, why is there an Endangered Species Act to protect those lifefroms who's time has come?

I suppose for the same reason we have parks, zoos, street cleaners and such.

Why is there a social safety net for those who are unable to "fit into" society?

Because compassion is a human trait and not the result of a belief system.

46 posted on 04/21/2005 6:53:16 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: gobucks
The earth, according to Hofland, is about 6,000 years old. God created it in six 24-hour days. And, of course, evolution is just a theory.

Most people around here will shake their heads and wonder how anyone could think that in this day and age. But for Hofland, it's a basic foundation of his belief system.

This guy is an idiot. Yes, idiot.

Yeah, and if my "Bible" says 2+2=3 that don't make it so.

47 posted on 04/21/2005 6:55:00 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: js1138
Would you put yourself in the camp that wants to preserve living samples of bacteria and viruses so that we do not "extinguish a lifeform"?
48 posted on 04/21/2005 6:56:34 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

"Did mankind begin in Asia? Africa? How did man get to South America? Boats from the Southern Hemisphere? Walking down from "Canada"?"

At what time? Both are true, but at different times. These days, I go to South America by air. It's much faster.


49 posted on 04/21/2005 6:57:11 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Drew68

"Yeah, and if my "Bible" says 2+2=3 that don't make it so."




Well, it doesn't say that, but it does say that pi is 3. Not a very precise approximation of that irrational number. The Bible isn't a science text, it seems.


50 posted on 04/21/2005 6:59:04 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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Scientists are unwilling to say when A life "begins" (to protect the legality of abortion). Odd that they would be so positive about when/how ALL life began.


51 posted on 04/21/2005 7:01:48 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Labyrinthos
While your "proof" by itself doesn't really prove anything, your response is at least well-reasoned and intelligent.

Proof is a mathematical term not usually associated with science so I assume we're talking metaphysics now?

The next question is who created the "somebody or something else?"

Nah, the real question is how did grapefruits spread throughout non time and non space all expand at the same time into our universe and where did they get all that det cord.

52 posted on 04/21/2005 7:02:13 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: MineralMan

Are Asians and Africans different animals with different ancestors then? Or did evolution run a parallel path on different continents?


53 posted on 04/21/2005 7:03:21 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Labyrinthos

You are incorrect on surmising his premise Mr. Labyrinthos. Please reread the book with an open mind. Hint: Life at the micro level is irreducable.

Have a good day.


54 posted on 04/21/2005 7:03:53 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: weegee

"Are Asians and Africans different animals with different ancestors then? Or did evolution run a parallel path on different continents?"

Not really. As you may note, Africa and Asia are connected via land. I don't see the problem with migration between the two.

It seems unlikely to me that homo sapiens evolved simultaneously in two places, so a single place is much more likely, IMO.


55 posted on 04/21/2005 7:05:39 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Labyrinthos
Please note that I have issued this challenge on several threads, but have only received a single reply from a person who could not follow directions.

Perhaps when you stop hiding behind could not follow directions as a straw man to weasel out of admitting when valid evidence is presented to you, people will take you seriously. Until then, you're just an idealogue.

56 posted on 04/21/2005 7:06:04 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: MineralMan

So your "Both are true, but at different times." referred to South American population, not the question of where life began Africa or Asia?


57 posted on 04/21/2005 7:07:11 AM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Labyrinthos; jwalsh07
While your "proof" by itself doesn't really prove anything . . .

How is it that the bar was suddendly raised from "a single piece of objective evidence" to "proof?"

58 posted on 04/21/2005 7:11:20 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: DesertSapper

I grew up reading scriptures, too. But, do you *honestly* in your heart of hearts believe that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago over a preiod of 7 days?

I mean no disrespect, I just want to know if you yourself honestly and truly belive that to be the case.

Bones


59 posted on 04/21/2005 7:13:08 AM PDT by Bones75
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To: MineralMan
Well, it doesn't say that, but it does say that pi is 3.

Pi can be a rational number but that's neither here nor there. The Bible never claims Pi=3. It simply gives some measures of a big ole vessel.

60 posted on 04/21/2005 7:21:36 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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