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Inside the Mind of a Creationist (Hope is Alive in California!)
Metro: Silicon Valley Weekly Newspaper ^ | April 21, 2005 | Najeeb Hasan

Posted on 04/21/2005 4:34:42 AM PDT by gobucks

In the last year, Silicon Valley has been a center of a showdown over religious beliefs in public schools. Meet the other side. LYNN HOFLAND often talks faster than he thinks. For Hofland, it seems the circumstances demand it. A creationist, he happily espouses a point of view that mainstream culture considers ridiculous and unenlightened.

The earth, according to Hofland, is about 6,000 years old. God created it in six 24-hour days. And, of course, evolution is just a theory.

Most people around here will shake their heads and wonder how anyone could think that in this day and age. But for Hofland, it's a basic foundation of his belief system.

And his belief system came to the South Bay in a big way last fall when Stephen Williams, a fifth-grade teacher at Stevens Creek Elementary School in Cupertino, filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the Cupertino Union School District (and against Stevens Creek Elementary's principal), claiming he had been discriminated against because he was Christian. Williams, backed by the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal organization engaged in contesting cultural issues across the nation, said that his principal stopped him from handing out historical materials in class that referenced God. After an initial Drudge Report headline about the Declaration of Independence being "banned" at a California school, Williams' case was egged on by right-wing radio and blogs. Sean Hannity, of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, brought his show to the Flint Center in Cupertino for a special "Take Back America" broadcast.

Mark Thomas was one of the panelists for that broadcast. Thomas, the president of the Atheists of Silicon Valley (www.godlessgeeks.com), believes everything that Hofland does not. He believes men came from monkeys. He believes the animate sprung from the inanimate; the concept even has a scientific-sounding word for it: abiogenesis.

Thomas has met Hofland on more than one occasion; he even went so far as to give Hofland the floor during one of his atheist meetings held bimonthly in the community room of his townhouse complex in Mountain View. But the truth is, he thinks Hofland is a kook. Or, if Hofland's not a kook himself, that his ideas about the origins of life are definitely kooky.

"It's rather irritating to get into these conversations about the origins of life with him," says Thomas. "You keep coming back with God did this, God did that. The problem is for him there are no contradictions because he's right. In some ways you can't refute him. God could have created the world a hundred years ago with everything looking as though it were ancient. You can't disprove it. God could have created the universe a day ago with everything, including people's memories intact. You can't disprove that."

Evolution of an Anti-Evolutionist

Hofland may think the world was created in six days, but it took him a lot longer than that to arrive at that belief—30 years and then some, in fact. Born in Montana, near Missoula (he still mixes Montana wheat into homemade breads and waffles), Hofland, now 50, has always had a Midwestern sensibility. He graduated from high school (his mother was his eighth-grade biology teacher), but flunked out of college after a year and a half. Then, he did a six-year stint in the Navy, floating around the South Pacific on a nuclear submarine.

"My background," he admits, "did not lend itself to me being a creationist."

Of all things, it was a subsequent job at NASA, where he's still employed today, that led Hofland to discard the evolutionism he had grown up with. Watching NASA scientists taking lessons from the physiology of giraffes to develop gravity suits for astronauts (the thick-skinned giraffe boasts a unique blood pressure for mammals, which is especially helpful for outer-space modeling) eventually convinced Hofland to do his own research into the giraffe—an animal, as it turns out, that has been widely used in creationist arguments.

What he found, he says, converted him. The giraffe, he learned, has seven neck bones (the norm, for many mammals), even though, as far as he could tell, there's no reason why evolution wouldn't have demanded the number of the giraffe's neck bones increase with the size of its neck. Hofland was also amazed at the giraffe's capability to withstand extreme blood pressure (due to its height) in its legs, and to adjust the pressure when it bends its head down to drink water—without its reinforced artery walls, its collection of valves and a "web" of small blood vessels, intense pressure would reach the giraffe's brain every time it bends its head. Not to mention what Hofland considers the miraculous design of the giraffe's birthing process—the new calf, which drops into the world from a height of five feet, cannot fall neither head or feet first, as both positions would end up breaking its neck; instead, the giraffe maneuvers a "perfect" exit, hind feet first and supporting its flexible neck around its shoulders.

Before he learned all this, Hofland insists, he, always scientifically inclined, was very much an ardent evolutionist. But, after his study, he ended up penning an article which became the basis for a new creationist ministry he calls Stiffneck Ministries.

"I had to struggle with this, but when I did my homework, I was convinced the giraffe was created," he says. "And, if the giraffe was created, then I was created, and, if I was created, then I had some answering to do for my life."

Thomas, however, is hardly impressed by Hofland's conversion. "I'm very well aware of his Stiffneck Ministries and his giraffes," says Thomas, with an exasperated tone. "His arguments are false; they are completely false. Giraffes have evolved over a period of time, and it's not a very good system. Giraffes have a lot of problems, many babies die during birth because they have a long distance to fall, but it works well enough for them to survive."

Thomas has little patience for Hofland's logic. "What creationist and intelligent designers like to point out is, basically, 'Isn't X amazing? I don't understand how X could be. Therefore, there must be something else that designed X and that created X. I don't understand what this other thing is either, but it must exist, because I don't understand X. That's fallacious reasoning."

Tie For First: The way Lynn Hofland's neckwear pointedly quotes the opening of the Christian Bible leaves no doubt as to where he stands on the question of life's origin.

Putting God Into Schools

Hofland was in the audience for the Hannity special in Cupertino. For him, the hubbub was about nothing other than certain people—in this case, the elementary school's administrators and the concerned parents—being too "sensitive." The United States, Hofland likes to say, is largely a Christian nation, though Hofland's definition of what a "Christian" nation is seems to vary subtly with the context. Sometimes, as in the case of Cupertino's Williams, who Hofland argues was only distributing material that reflected the roots and realities of the United States, the nation's very Christian; sometimes it's not Christian enough.

Even the question of what "Christian" belief is in regard to creationism has shifted over time.

"The irony, of course, in all of this creation science stuff is that modern conservative Christians are not the equivalent of their 19th-century counterparts," says J. David Pleins, a professor of religion at Santa Clara University.

Pleins, who has written extensively about readings of Genesis, argues young earth creationism—Hofland's view of a 6,000-year-old history—wasn't always a traditional Christian perspective.

"In the 19th century, you people who we would today call fundamentalist or conservative Christians, who didn't think the earth was young. They were anti-evolution Christians; they were against Darwin, but they believed the earth was old because they believe that the science told us about all these ancient lost eras. And so you had conservative Christians who were committed to an old-earth creationism. That seems to be an option that's lost today, and it's lost not because of the Scopes trial."

Instead, Pleins contends that a book, The Genesis Flood, put young earth creationism on the map. "It argued that science, rewritten and interpreted differently, would validate a literal reading of the Bible, so with creation science, you get a commitment from all conservative Christians committed to a young earth reading of the text. That's new."

The reasons behind the shift in perspective are strikingly similar to the modern fundamentalist worries that Christianity would erode away if not somehow protected, which results in a defensive posture by the Christian right in the American culture wars. The book's authors, says Pleins, thought that "if you give away the literal reading of the Bible, you start giving up the biblical truth. Where would you stop?"

Similarly, Hofland wants to establish the Bible's authority in America's public schools.

"There's nothing wrong with the Bible being added as a reference text," he insists. "If the science classroom is asking questions about how old the earth is, then this"—Hofland pats a tiny blue Bible—"is as good of a reference as rocks in the ground."

Employing Hofland's logic, solutions for teaching evolution in public schools would, seemingly, become exercises in political correctness.

"Question number one," Hofland says, "could be according to the theory of evolution; question number two could be according to the theory of creation; question number three could be according to the Buddhism or whatever. Or something like that."

Hofland may seem to be far out of the mainstream, but his beliefs have made some inroads in popular culture, as seen in cases like that of the Atlanta school district that voted in 2002 to put stickers in biology textbooks which stated that evolution is "a theory not a fact." A federal judge ruled that the stickers had to be removed.

Others who criticize the way evolution is taught in public schools say they aren't necessarily creationists, but simply believe God has been pushed too far out of the debate over life's origins. In 1998, after receiving a letter co-signed by two widely respected religious scholars, Huston Smith and Alvin Plantinga, the National Association of Biology Teachers was forced to edit its definition of what to teach about evolution in schools. The association had described evolution as "unsupervised" and "impersonal"; Smith and Plantinga argued there was no scientific basis for those descriptors, and the association ended up agreeing, deleting the two words.

At NASA, Hofland often visits an artistic depiction of the origins of human life that has been put up in a building neighboring his workspace. The depiction, a colorful painting that, from left to right, shows the evolutionary stages of life through bold white lines. It begins with volcanoes exploding, moves on to micro-organisms in the oceans, to various kinds of mammals in the forests, to cave men, and finally to modern man driving along a highway.

"I did meet the artist, the original artist," he says of the painting. "At first, he told me they told him to paint all the volcanoes exploding. Then, they told him, Oh that was too much, that would cause a nuclear winter and shut everything down, so they only had two volcanoes that were exploding and the rest were dormant. And see, they keep changing their view of what happened."


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To: Oztrich Boy

The bear-dog. Hmmm.

How many fossil remains are there, where are they, and did they retain a heartiness that would allow for varieties ranging from poodle-ish to pit bull-ish as it has been with the canine? IOW, how much of the information on your link has been substantiated by solid evidence and how much of it is conjecture?


221 posted on 04/21/2005 6:35:12 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: js1138
"Here are some creationst frauds, at least one of which will show up on every crevo thread, and which are never challenged by creationists.

10. The Da Vinci Code

Dan Brown, inventor of the Da Vinci Code, is a Creationist? You should stop believing everything you hear.

222 posted on 04/21/2005 6:35:40 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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To: BMCDA; ohioWfan
So what Tribune7 demands is that such a new branch should be a member of a different superset.

You're claim is that cats and dogs share a common ancestor. I'm just pointing out that is a statement of faith.

223 posted on 04/21/2005 6:41:57 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Fester Chugabrew
A better question: Do you think the philosphy of evolution can hold up under scrutiny from the standpoint of forensic crime and still retain the name "science?"

Oh, that is a good question.

224 posted on 04/21/2005 6:43:15 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Fester Chugabrew
< sigh> that's the porblem with Creationists - so fixated on born yesterday they have no understanding of deep time.

"poodle-ish to pit bull-ish" canine sub-species have separated from wolves in the last few milennia - evet Creationists agree on that. Wolves appeared 6 million years ago. Beardogs were 30 million years ago.

225 posted on 04/21/2005 6:49:45 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Creation Science: New but not improved)
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To: Oztrich Boy
So then, wolves and bear-dogs essentially retain their physical characteristics throughout their history. I would think the bear-dog would have a better chance at survival than grandma's poodle. Any suggestions as to how it happens that the bear-dog can't be found these days?

Where did the capacity for such genetic variation come from? Has any human been able to create any of these critters without using intelligence or design?

While we're at it, let's trace the tree back from bear-dog to its next predecessor, and then all the way back to the earliest possible ancestor, and do so with the aid empirical evidence as opposed to a static record subject to fanciful interpretations. Those trees from amoeba to man are so fascinating. Mother Goose would be proud.

226 posted on 04/21/2005 7:17:22 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: narby
Why do you pretend not to understand my point?

I understand your point better than you understand it. Geological phenomena, unlike macro-evolution, is testable.

Which is, if you're really that thick, that your rules of not believeing anything that is not repeatable, and testable preclude you from believing lots of things that a reasonable person should be able to conclude based on the evidence we do have.

You see you don't even understand your point. You can believe things for whatever reason. In fact, it is pefectly reasonable to believe things that are not testable although in that case you are expressing faith not science.

Was there a previous volcanic eruption at Yellowstone? It's not unreasonable to think so. There is volcanic activity such as geysers and earthquakes there and its geology matches areas where known eruptions have occured.

Now, why do you think evolution has occurred? Do you see "evolutionary activity" in creatures that are about to evolve? Has evolution been observed to provide physical benchmarks with which we can compare past events?

What you seem to want is something declared objectively true without being able to test it -- basically a religious dogma although even dogmas can be tested.

227 posted on 04/21/2005 7:19:23 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: narby
Do you see "evolutionary activity" in creatures that are about to evolve?

And obviously I'm referring to macro-evolutionary activity.

228 posted on 04/21/2005 7:24:26 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Oztrich Boy; Fester Chugabrew
Sigh...........that's the problem with evolutionists - so unable to come up with a theory that can be proven in real time, that they manufacture 'deep time' to disguise the fact that they don't know what they're talking about.

The more their theories are disproven, the 'deeper' the time has to be to hide the truth of the fraud.

229 posted on 04/21/2005 7:29:23 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: gobucks
FYI
230 posted on 04/21/2005 7:31:36 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Fester Chugabrew; Tribune7
I think I've got things figured out here.

WE were created, and these guys just evolved..........which explains why we're so much smarter than they are. ;)

231 posted on 04/21/2005 7:32:12 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan

"Deep time" is the evolutionists' answer to Goddidit. It is an arbitrary assumption anyone can make but is beyond the realm of empirical test.
I can understand interpreting evidence through the prism of naturalism. It is an easy matter to dismiss divine intervention through reason. What I cannot understand is why such an interpretation must be given sole reign where education is concerned and be allowed to retain a credibility related to science.


232 posted on 04/21/2005 7:55:07 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: ohioWfan

:-)


233 posted on 04/21/2005 7:57:18 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7; BMCDA
You're claim is that cats and dogs share a common ancestor. I'm just pointing out that is a statement of faith.

Let me take that one step further, and say that if BMCDA truly believes that, then he believes in miracles.

In fact the whole of macro evolution is believing one miracle after another. It is an amazing step of faith to believe in evolution.

234 posted on 04/21/2005 8:00:22 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Tribune7

Think they'll know it was a joke, or am I going to get some angry replies from that? :o)


235 posted on 04/21/2005 8:01:16 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan
In fact the whole of macro evolution is believing one miracle after another.

If evolution is true, it's a miracle.

236 posted on 04/21/2005 8:04:31 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Precisely. As scientific 'facts' are disproven, time gets deeper to remove even further the possibility of testing.

And yet, evolutionists are obstinate that they speak on the basis of evidence, and creationists on the basis of faith.

I, too, agree that evolutionary theory should be taught in schools, but it needs to be taught honestly.......as a philosophy based on deductions and not science based on empirical evidence.

I personally believe that at some point in the future, the theory is going to get so ridiculous that it might happen.

237 posted on 04/21/2005 8:05:40 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan
Think they'll know it was a joke, or am I going to get some angry replies from that? :o)

I don't know. I got flamed on some posts when I wasn't expecting it.

238 posted on 04/21/2005 8:05:54 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
How about the onset of language? What a miracle that was, that at some point in time, ape-like creatures, homonids, or humans began to talk.

Unfortunately, it requires a fully developed brain to talk, so which came first, and how did it occur?

However they try to explain it, it's a miracle. The irony of it, is that the evolutionary theory was developed to explain the origins of earth and man without God, or the miraculous, and the system they fabricated requires miracle after miracle in order to explain it.

I guess they failed, eh?

239 posted on 04/21/2005 8:14:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan; Tribune7

Speaking of miracles, have you heard about the Law of Gravity?


240 posted on 04/21/2005 8:14:24 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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