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What do you know about Hal Lindsey?
Hal Lindsey ^

Posted on 04/19/2005 12:51:42 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: Gipper08


161 posted on 04/19/2005 4:45:48 PM PDT by Gipper08
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To: feedback doctor

"n Matthew 24 Jesus was speaking of the generation that was alive at the time. The above verse was fullfilled in 70 AD when a Roman emporer came in and sacrificed a pig on the alter, the the temple was destroyed or as has been said, "not one stone was left upon another."

Good summary.

When most people look at the 70 weeks of Daniel (which are 70 7-year periods) they say that it all has been fulfilled except for the last "week". Then they say that the prophecy clock stopped and is waiting on Israel to return and build the Temple, etc., etc.

But there is no place in Scripture where the prophecy clock ever "stopped". This is not a Biblical concept at all and people are missing the point, that ALL the prophecies were fulfilled exactly as foretold in the Bible during the time around the fall of Jerusalem. If you look at a timeline of the 70 weeks of Daniel, the 70th week occurs exactly when foretold in the prophecies, starting 483 years after the rebuilding of the wall. The clock didn't stop, the prophecies were fulfilled, including the one which says that "this generation shall not pass away", because some of those people were still alive in 70 AD.

The book of Revelation was written in the early 60's AD, and told of events which were soon to take place, and did take place within just a few years.

All of the prohpecies, including the blood running in the streets, the Abomination of Desolation (which you referenced above), the Christians being spared because they left Jerusalem to go live the in caves outside the city while the Jewish sects inside the city destroyed each other, and then the Roman army came in to finish them off, leaving not one stone of the Temple on top of another.

But hey, it's more fun just to ignore any contrary evidence to Hal Lindsey and all the other prophets. Think I'll forget about all of this and just go back to my "Left Behind" series and think about how exciting it is to live in the "Rapture Generation".


162 posted on 04/19/2005 4:49:27 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I really enjoyed Hal in his role as "Barney Miller"

It was a really funny show, especially the " St Patrick's Day" episode.

I laughed and laughed.

You know, Abe Vigoda, who played "Fish" was quite a good actor as well. I know, the spinoff show "Fish" was a bit of a disappointment, but "Barney Miller was still a great show.

I used to watch "Barney Miller" when it was syndicated, in the early AM when I was younger after I got home from my "all-night" second job.

Those were good times.
163 posted on 04/19/2005 4:54:28 PM PDT by WhiteGuy ("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH </sarcasm>)
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To: webstersII

When did the events of Zechariah 14 happen?


164 posted on 04/19/2005 5:00:22 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You may be right.

I've always counted on Kreskin to tell me which card I'm holding against my forehead whereas, I've always depended on Criswell's uncanny and impeccable taste in coffins so when I die, I'll look good rising from the dead to predict a really bad invasion from Mars.

 

165 posted on 04/19/2005 5:05:19 PM PDT by Fintan (Someday we'll look back on this moment and plow into a parked car.)
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To: Cecily
I'm not sure. I haven't studied those very much. There may be some which haven't been fulfilled yet. I believe there are still some prophecies yet to be fulfilled.

I have studied the prophecies of Daniel and his 70 weeks. And those were clearly fulfilled exactly as foretold. It's a fascinating study if you ever care to look into it. It will give you a new appreciation for how accurate and detailed Biblical prophecies are.

Check out American Vision (Gary Demar's website) . I don't agree with everything that Gary Demar says but he has some interesting stuff about eschatology. He wrote a book called "Last Days Madness" which has the Biblical exposition that Lindsey and the others didn't bother with.

166 posted on 04/19/2005 5:14:33 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII

With regard to your preterist beliefs, I have read somewhere that in Jewish thought, biblical prophecy is pattern. The idea is that one prophecy can have more than one fulfillment, with one ultimate fulfillment. An event that seemed to be a fulfillment of prophecy in 70 AD could happen again in the future.


167 posted on 04/19/2005 5:21:59 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

There is no such thing as a "double-reference prophecy". There are no Biblical examples of this, and the whole idea is just something put forward to explain away the prophecies which have already been fulfilled. It's more exciting to write books about the Anti-Christ rising out of Rome and how all the intrigue and speculation surrounding that.


168 posted on 04/19/2005 5:27:19 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: TomSmedley

Most of my college Bible professors were DTS graduates. Very nice guys, but theological weaklings.

169 posted on 04/19/2005 5:41:27 PM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: feedback doctor

Exactly. There has always been only one true Israel. Paul was clear about that in Romans 9.

170 posted on 04/19/2005 5:50:53 PM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: Fintan

No Harry Blackwell?


171 posted on 04/19/2005 5:53:29 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Tina, eat the ham you fat lard!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Sure, Hal's musings may be interesting--like an episode of The X-Files or a UFO expert on Art Bell's show--but a prophet he ain't. If you look closely at his picture, you'll see something tattooed on his forehead: FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.
172 posted on 04/19/2005 5:56:56 PM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: shield

"pin the tail on the Antichrist". as in "Let's play......"

A term I use for people who try to figure out who Mr 666 is. Some examples (some outrageous) that I've heard" Henry Kissinger, King Juan Carlos of Spain, a pope (of course), I laughed when I heard one radio show in 1979 speculate that Margerite Thatcher could be the one. Some of the predictions are just plain silly, and wrong in more ways than one.


173 posted on 04/19/2005 6:27:05 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (I live in Minnesota, I run a business in Minnesota, but I remain a TEXAN!)
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To: Fred Hayek

I think it's Hillary. At least she's already a beast.


174 posted on 04/19/2005 6:36:05 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

One thing about all of this is we are spending way too much time on speculation about the future and not enough on OUR OWN STUDY on our CHRISTIAN WALK now!


175 posted on 04/19/2005 6:44:24 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Steven W.
thank you for your clarification(s) as they are correct!

Thank you Steve. Hal's a good guy, though I don't particularly agree with everything he says.

176 posted on 04/19/2005 6:59:56 PM PDT by Ronzo (God ALONE is enough.)
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To: bondserv
I agree with Ronzo's assessment.

Thanks bondserv. It important not to condemn nor highly praise Hal, as he's just doing what he feels is an important service to Christian believers, nothing more.

I kinda like to think of him as a news analyst with a Christian perspective.

177 posted on 04/19/2005 7:03:31 PM PDT by Ronzo (God ALONE is enough.)
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To: Fred Hayek
A term I use for people who try to figure out who Mr 666 is. Some examples (some outrageous) that I've heard" Henry Kissinger, King Juan Carlos of Spain, a pope (of course), I laughed when I heard one radio show in 1979 speculate that Margerite Thatcher could be the one. Some of the predictions are just plain silly, and wrong in more ways than one.

OH I like that. It's a system....which all we have to do is look around and it's every where. The Anti-Christ System...Babylon System...Beast System...Man's System (which are all Anti-Christ and all the same ugly system). Didn't JESUS say there'd be many....

178 posted on 04/19/2005 7:14:06 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: tang-soo

BTTT


179 posted on 04/19/2005 7:41:12 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Saundra Duffy
He's cool but apparently not a true prophet.

Going completely from memory, IIRC The Late, Great Planet Earth was subtitled: the 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon.
180 posted on 04/19/2005 8:22:52 PM PDT by clyde asbury (Singe ich ein Lied für dich Von 99 Luftballons.)
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