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LIVE THREAD: Senate Coverage AND Senate Foreign Relations Committee vote on Bolton nomination
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Posted on 04/19/2005 11:07:48 AM PDT by ken5050

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To: freeangel
Well, after today, I hope he misses the fence the next time and loses his jewels.--painfully!

He lost them a long time ago, it is the inevitable byproduct of fence straddling, honorary membership in RINO Eunuchs of America.

1,401 posted on 04/19/2005 2:48:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: maggiefluffs

Maggie--
Ethics? Voinovich is on Ethics?
Oh, the irony!


1,402 posted on 04/19/2005 2:48:22 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: maggiefluffs

Well, we can rule out FR and Ethics..........LOL.


1,403 posted on 04/19/2005 2:48:35 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Txsleuth
WHY WOULD ALLEN BE JOKING AROUND WITH DODDS RIGHT NOW?

Because they belong to the same country club?

1,404 posted on 04/19/2005 2:49:04 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: foreshadowed at waco

Dodd--Like father like son--Ditto Ted Kennedy.


1,405 posted on 04/19/2005 2:49:04 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Howlin

Bush isn't and never will be a lame duck.

The reason they are voting this way is because they believe WE will vote for them because the Dems are so extreme. The only way to disillusion them of their opinion of US is to take them out in their primaries or on election day if need be.

We are the ones they don't respect.


1,406 posted on 04/19/2005 2:49:12 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: SoVaDPJ
Voinovich is on Ethics?

Fox, meet henhouse.

1,407 posted on 04/19/2005 2:49:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: Howlin

I don't doubt that it was coordinated by the Ds, and probably with some RINO help, at least on the staff level, but the Rs should have been ready for this kind of nonsense. All I'm saying is that if the R. Senate and committee leadership can't prevent such machinations from succeeding then they might as well close up shop. I know that Senators pride themselves on their vaunted sagacity and independence, and I certainly don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but I would think this is a nomination for which all committee Rs should have been worked very thoroughly -- for Voinovich to claim he just isn't up to speed on the hearings and the nominee is a huge indictment of someone - Voinovich himself, certainly, but also R. leadership who should have had their votes confirmed ahead of time.....


1,408 posted on 04/19/2005 2:49:25 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: samantha
This is why Tom Delay is worth his weight in gold.

YES!!! I was waiting for someone to say that.

1,409 posted on 04/19/2005 2:49:34 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Dog

I was just thinking about Specter. He has cover now, too.

Anything they can make up, he'll have to "investigate," you know?

They must have a what do you call it, not a think tank, but war room somewhere, working hard to make stuff up.


1,410 posted on 04/19/2005 2:50:05 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: oceanview
you think we can get a conservative SCOTUS appointment through, when we can't even get a UN ambassador approved?

Yes. The electorate will pay attention to a SCOTUS nominee. Even I couldn't care less about ambassador to the UN.

1,411 posted on 04/19/2005 2:50:44 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: EDINVA

I don't know what it is with the Ohio Republicans.

This is probably Voinovich's last term. He won re-election last year, winning all 88 counties. He has always rankled feathers in the conservative camp. This is probably one of the big ranklings however.

This is just another example that will be used here in 2006 for why changes need to be made in the Ohio Republican Party. The change being going from a liberal-to-moderate (RINO) leadership to a much more conservative leadership. Conservatives in this state have become fed up with Voinovich, DeWine, and Taft. Ken Blackwell, a true conservative running for governor of Ohio in 2006 has said that next year "will be a fight for the heart and soul of the Ohio Republican Party." (paraphrasing)

I feel sorry for the person handling the phones in Voinovich's office right now. It probably ain't pretty.


1,412 posted on 04/19/2005 2:50:44 PM PDT by Columbus Dawg (Unfortunate to live in that blue spot in central Ohio)
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To: Howlin

They do have a DEM warroom..


1,413 posted on 04/19/2005 2:50:51 PM PDT by Dog
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To: samantha

yeah?? YEAH???? that should have been done today , anything can happen between now and when they've manufactured a truckload of false charges["its the seriousness of the charge"] THEY'RE SLOW-WALKING THIS ON THE LONG WALK TO NOWHERE


1,414 posted on 04/19/2005 2:50:59 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Soul Seeker

I do not consider him a lame duck, but, believe me, THEY do think of him that way; all their thinking about now is 2006 and 2008, which, as far as they are concerned, doesn't not involve him.


1,415 posted on 04/19/2005 2:51:06 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Bahbah

No doubt, voinivich was "busy" at an ethics comittee meeting stabbing Delay in the back before he rushed off to do the same thing here.


1,416 posted on 04/19/2005 2:51:10 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: RoseofTexas

Of course they hurt us, but my point is that Lugar was publically humiliated. His face is the one that will be shown and mocked. That is a special sign of disrespect he alone will bear and if I were Lugar, unfortunately I'm not, I would make Voinivich pay.


1,417 posted on 04/19/2005 2:51:26 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Enchante

Agreed.


1,418 posted on 04/19/2005 2:52:11 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
You're right. The WH and the party leadership needs to enforce party discipline RIGOROUSLY, but Bush has never been any good at taking retribution against those who stab him and the conservative agenda in the back IMHO.
1,419 posted on 04/19/2005 2:52:16 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: OnTheDress
California money helped put Thune in.

I sent him a check from Florida.

1,420 posted on 04/19/2005 2:52:20 PM PDT by EllaMinnow
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