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Fed's torch church in show of force
PBS ^ | October 1995 | WGBH, Frontline

Posted on 04/19/2005 10:04:04 AM PDT by ASTM36

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To: Arrowhead1952

Go easy, bro. Trust, but verify. Let's wait this out.


41 posted on 04/19/2005 10:39:22 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (MIF = the Mexican Invasion Force)
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To: eastforker
Absolutely.......BOTH Clinton's were to blame......the President, and her husband.

Transcript Linda Tripp on Larry King Live
(snip)

KING: Let me name same people and your thoughts back on them. Vince Foster?

L. TRIPP: Oh, a wonderful man.

KING: Did you know he was depressed?

L. TRIPP: Let me relay a little story to set this up. Vince Foster, when I first met him -- and over time I used to say to him that he was far more representative of a Bush White House appointee than a Clinton. He was dignified, decent, caring, smart. When Waco happened, that's when I first knew that Vince was falling apart.

KING: How so?

L. TRIPP: I was with him -- well, we had CNN all the time, not to plug, but it was always on in the White House. And a special bulletin came on showing the atrocity at Waco and the children. And his face, his whole body slumped, and his face turned white, and he was absolutely crushed knowing, knowing the part he had played. And he had played the part at Mrs. Clinton's direction.

Her reaction, on the other hand, was heartless. And I can only tell you what I saw.

KING: How do you know they were involved in this? I thought this was a Reno action of which Janet played and felt very sorry.

L. TRIPP: This was...

KING: Foster-Clinton?

L. TRIPP: Foster, Mrs. Clinton, Webb Hubbell, Janet Reno.
(snip)

42 posted on 04/19/2005 10:39:26 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: ASTM36; Arrowhead1952; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ...


43 posted on 04/19/2005 10:40:01 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: ASTM36

THe largest massacre of civilians by fegov forces since Wounded Knee.


44 posted on 04/19/2005 10:41:29 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: ASTM36
The F Troop needs to be disbanded.
45 posted on 04/19/2005 10:42:03 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Cause if it's goods on the left, than I'm sticking to the right." - "Hell's Bells")
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To: bigfootbob

How about out of your four sentences, only the last one has a shred of truth to it.


46 posted on 04/19/2005 10:42:09 AM PDT by Flightdeck (I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.)
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To: Sender

I got that point, and agree 100%. If the government was operating under the assumption that there was an "arsenal" (incorrectly I'm hearing), doesn't that necessitate them GOING to the compound to check it out.

Again, I'm not being a troll, just trying to go through this scenario.


47 posted on 04/19/2005 10:42:43 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: MamaLucci

Let us not forget the possible roll CARNIVOR might have had in this whole thing.


48 posted on 04/19/2005 10:43:53 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: ruiner

well...you are learning.

Waco was an example of government power run amuck and was tinged with all sorts of politically correct motivations:

gun control

religious oddballs as targets

the state is right even if they have to burn alive scores of kids to prove it.

That sort of thing.

US military involvement in domestic police action....a clear violation.

It goes on and on.


And don't anyone think only Dems would do this.



49 posted on 04/19/2005 10:44:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!)
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To: ASTM36; Alamo-Girl; All
Read here and weep...Alamo-Girls's Downside Legacy

Hey A-G, did ya KNOW that all your hard work would stand as a lasting source of reference? I'm still amazed by it.

50 posted on 04/19/2005 10:44:26 AM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: Redbob
I'm assuming that's ASTM 'A'36, not 'D' 36?

It's been a while. Are we talking proctor here? (A five-point modified proctor is the equivalent of living a ton a foot or two, if I recall correctly)

51 posted on 04/19/2005 10:45:10 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
If they were half the bad guys they were supposed to be they would have chased down and shot each and every one of of those bastards, taken their trucks and fled to Mexico.

And that right there, my friend, says more than anything about the people living in the compound. If they were really the monsters the media and law enforcement made them out to be, they would have never let the BATFags leave. The BATFags were dead meat, out of ammo, in the open. Koresh and his people let them off the hook, and sealed their own death sentence.

52 posted on 04/19/2005 10:45:13 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: ruiner

No one is calling you a troll and you admit you was only about 14 when this went down right? Listen to the old timers around here, you will learn a thing or three.


53 posted on 04/19/2005 10:46:42 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Furthermore, the Feds shot unarmed people trying to escape the flames on the final day.

I was in prison with some of the Branch Davidians. One of them was shot trying to escape the building as it went up in flames. Yet the FBI insists that it did no such thing.
54 posted on 04/19/2005 10:48:42 AM PDT by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: eastforker

Yea, I was in eight grade. I remember seeing the burning compound on tv.

What I know about the even was what I saw on TV and read in the paper.


55 posted on 04/19/2005 10:49:05 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: eastforker

Repost: can't spell!

Yea, I was in eighth grade. I remember seeing the burning compound on tv.

What I know about the event was what I saw on TV and read in the paper.


56 posted on 04/19/2005 10:49:22 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: eastforker
As a fellow "oldtimer", I have been here long enough to know that almost all
of the clinton crimes were a monolithic, tangled web of corruption.
57 posted on 04/19/2005 10:49:45 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Hm.... maybe!
????

58 posted on 04/19/2005 10:50:21 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: eastforker
You are probably a troll but I tend to agree with the article.

**************

I agree. Waco was one of the lowest points in our government's history.

59 posted on 04/19/2005 10:51:11 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: ruiner

Note to ruiner, turn off the tv and burn the paper, spend a little more time here and get the goods on the caper.


60 posted on 04/19/2005 10:51:21 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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