I am trying to finf Michael Fumento's excellent editorial from yesterday's NY Post, which makes the points that heterosexual transmission of AIDS is virtually impossible, but have thus far been unsuccessful.
1 posted on
04/17/2005 2:46:42 PM PDT by
presidio9
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2 posted on
04/17/2005 2:50:22 PM PDT by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: presidio9; All
I have a better way than condoms to stop the transmission of AIDS, problem is, men have got to stop porking each other in the ass.
3 posted on
04/17/2005 2:52:54 PM PDT by
olde north church
(I advocate violence against the Left.)
To: presidio9
Well besides the theological issues of placing a barrier between the partners in the conjugal act, condoms provide a false sense of security since many of the cheaper ones have air holes much larger than the HIV virus. They are impermable to sperm but the virus goes right thru it.
Abstinence and monogamy - work every time they are tried.
4 posted on
04/17/2005 2:52:59 PM PDT by
kjvail
(Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
To: presidio9
I am trying to finf Michael Fumento's excellent editorial from yesterday's NY Post, which makes the points that heterosexual transmission of AIDS is virtually impossible, but have thus far been unsuccessful.Michael Fumento: The African AIDS myth? (Pain in the neck registration required. I suggest a trip to BugMeNot.com)
5 posted on
04/17/2005 2:53:28 PM PDT by
John Jorsett
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To: presidio9
Re: ""I'd like to follow the Church's teachings, but with condoms you can stay safe," she said. "Maybe I'm already sick, but I don't think so. You have to survive and look for money.""
Honey lamb, being a Whore is not a teaching of the Catholic Church! I am surprised no one mentioned this to you before. Gee I really wonder if the condom issue is a desire of Catholics in Africa or liberal pseudo-Catholics in NYC and San Fran?
To: presidio9
Rose was raised as a good Catholic schoolgirl by her grandparents, but now the 18-year-old orphan survives by selling sex in a Ugandan slum with scant regard for the teachings of the church.
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But, out of everything, The Church's teachings on condom use, are still a high priority for her. LOL
9 posted on
04/17/2005 3:14:24 PM PDT by
Bostton1
To: presidio9
It is absurd for these "activists" to suggest that on the one hand, people are unwilling to go against the Church's teaching on contraception, while being perfectly willing to engage in extramarital, promiscuous sex.
There is another agenda at work here, folks. This isn't about Africa, either.
11 posted on
04/17/2005 3:20:27 PM PDT by
B Knotts
(Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
To: presidio9
In Africa, there is lots of hetero transmission of AIDS because they are not clean people and often have open sores on their bodies.
13 posted on
04/17/2005 3:22:55 PM PDT by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: presidio9
If they don't listen to Catholic teaching about sex outside of marriage, why do they care about what Catholics teach about condoms????
To: presidio9
While abstinence may sound fine in theory, activists say poverty forces many young people in ( Africa | S.America | America's inner cities )
into selling ( sex | drugs | contraband )
just to survive, making it impossible for them to avoid ( intercourse | addiction | a life of crime ).
It seems that during earlier depression times when poverty was much more stark, you didn't hear about morals going out the window on a widespread basis just to "survive"...
19 posted on
04/17/2005 3:53:29 PM PDT by
mikrofon
(Anti-Pro-Condom)
Ping to self for later pingout.
20 posted on
04/17/2005 4:04:21 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
To: presidio9
Africa Activists Want Catholics to Back CondomsToo bad you never see this headline:
Catholics want Africans to stop having so much sex with strangers.
26 posted on
04/17/2005 4:39:31 PM PDT by
krb
(ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
To: presidio9
Have condoms made a difference among atheists?
29 posted on
04/17/2005 4:45:18 PM PDT by
Mr Ramsbotham
(Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
To: presidio9
30 posted on
04/17/2005 4:46:44 PM PDT by
Tax-chick
(The Casserole with the Beans Again blues ...)
To: presidio9
While abstinence may sound fine in theory, activists say poverty forces many young people in Africa into selling sex just to survive, making it impossible for them to avoid intercourse.The Left wants to give Rose a condom, so she can be a whore more safely. The Right wants to give Rose a job so she doesn't have to be a whore.
Now remind me: who is that wants to address the "root causes" of poverty?
To: presidio9
The crazy thing is...if everyone followed the teachings of the Church - AIDS would be nonexistent.
In that sense you could call the Church's teaching "progressive"
The closer we get to it the less AIDS will be a problem
To: presidio9
Way to go Reuters for trying to set the Vatican straight on a moral issue. After all, when I face a moral dilemma, I go straight to Reuters to find out what to do.
/sarcasm
40 posted on
04/17/2005 8:45:41 PM PDT by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: presidio9
Condoms is, after all, primarily a birth control devise. Since AIDS has increasingly spread among black populations in the Unbited States, where condoms are readily accessible, then does it not stand to reason that the main problem is the manner and frequency of sexual intercourse?
41 posted on
04/17/2005 9:35:20 PM PDT by
RobbyS
(JMJ)
To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; St. Johann Tetzel; DaveTesla; mercygrace; ...
Moral Absolutes Ping.
I've read of organizations which help women (and children) escape from prostitution. They get education, medical help, a place to live, and the children are taken care of, often in orphanages. I've read about them in Thailand, and I'm sure there are other places as well.
Instead of condoms, these poor souls need to escape from the gutter. Whether it's their "fault" or not, they need help to escape and live a peaceful life. Religious organizations would be ideal to help in this way.
People just want the Catholic Church to be destroyed, that's all. The unchangeable moral absolutes it stands for make people uncomfortable.
Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.
42 posted on
04/17/2005 11:03:41 PM PDT by
little jeremiah
(Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
To: presidio9
Catholics want Africa Activists to Back Off
43 posted on
04/18/2005 1:14:45 AM PDT by
LibertarianInExile
(The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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