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Astonishing But True! Replies to FR Poll on Potential POTUS

Posted on 04/16/2005 7:51:04 PM PDT by jla

"We know nothing really about her, but by God, Condi is our gal!" --- Anonymous Freeper


I've repeatedly asked here at FR for anyone to tell me *CONDI'S* stand on a number of issues ranging from economics to school prayer.
I have yet to receive one reply to my queries on where Miss Rice stands on a number of issues.

So can someone please tell me, especially you, Section 9, why I should be excited about a possible Condi Rice presidency run?

FYI: Miss R. in my opinion will prove to be an excellent Sec of State. But POTUS? Sorry, unlike a lot of Freepers my vote requires more than a cute smile or even worse, a fanatical appreciation of the Condi stare.

No wonder so many here can't seem to get behind Tom DeLay.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; condiminimum; condiwantstoheadnfl; doesntmatter; enoughalready; notnews; shedoesntwantit; stupidvanity; wontbecondi
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To: discostu; rdb3; mhking
...the social leaders that have the black community voting largely in lockstep are hardcore welfare state liberals...

I dunno. By my estimates, black America elected President Bush. Why? They turned out in enough conservative numbers to make his margins in Ohio. Think about it: what used to be taken for granted among Democrats is slipping away! That's got to annoy them.

Another thing you're discounting is the amount of attention Cosby gets when he speaks. Watch him on PBS sometime. I saw him threaten to punch "Rev." Jackson the last time he was lecturing his fellow citizens. Jackson was tugging at his sleeve trying to interrupt him. You should have seen the audience on the edge of its seat, and how they cheered and whooped when he told them they needed to monitor their children, and keep them off drugs, and keep their manners in line.

I wish we had white family leaders with as much street cred as Cosby.

81 posted on 04/16/2005 8:56:28 PM PDT by risk
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To: Republican Wildcat

Probably not, the Dems win in predominantly black areas by HUGE margins, shrinking the dems from getting 90% of the black vote to 88% of the black vote won't have much effect, if they were a market for a product that would still be a strong monopoly share.


82 posted on 04/16/2005 8:56:48 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: jla
...a fanatical appreciation of the Condi stare.

for some of us, it's the appreciation for the slit skirt\black boots thing....
84 posted on 04/16/2005 8:58:53 PM PDT by stylin19a (Always remember - don't ever forget - "2 wrongs don't make a right, it's 3 lefts that make a right.")
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To: Graybeard58
8. Pro abortion

And what do you know someone that is going to overturn Roe vs. Wade?

85 posted on 04/16/2005 8:59:07 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: rdb3

And that's been a problem for a long time. Nixon said it was something the GOP needed to fix after 68 (which was the first time the dems got the majority of the black vote). Unfortunately instead of listening to Nixon and trying to do something about it they just kind of wrote off the black vote, it'll take decades to swing the balance. Every little bit helps and I'm all for continuing the effort, but it's not going to change the picture for 08.


86 posted on 04/16/2005 8:59:46 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: stylin19a; section9

What happened to section9's Condi-Bush vs. Jihad picture?


87 posted on 04/16/2005 9:00:25 PM PDT by risk
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To: jla
It's quite telling, isn't it?

Personally, I think Frist is probably the best of a fairly weak bench.

88 posted on 04/16/2005 9:03:29 PM PDT by B Knotts (Ioannes Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem.)
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To: DBrow
The ABB philosophy was soundly rejected. Dean was dumped for Kerry because they thought he was more electable, and anyone would have been better than Bush. Until that shot of John in the blue clean room suit...

Not so. It was a very close election with Kerry winning 251 electoral votes and garnering more popular votes than any candidate in history except for GWB.

Kerry was running against an incumbent wartime President; was rated the most liberal senator from the most liberal state in America; was uncharismatic as a candidate with no national name recognition; had a phony war record; engaged in treasonous activities as part of the radical VVAW including meeting with the Vietnamese Communists in Paris twice during the war; testified before Congress that our troops were war criminals and drug addicts; and had a nut case of a wife.

Despite all of this, Kerry received 59 million votes and came within a wisker of winning the Presidency. If it wasn't for the SBVFT, Kerry would be President.

89 posted on 04/16/2005 9:04:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: risk

Using the gay marriage issue to drive a wedge was huge, and I certainly hope it's the begining of the end of Dem dominance of the black vote, but I haven't seen any numbers giving the dems less than a high 80s/ low 90s in the black vote percentage in 04 either. Remember this was a long cycle, the Dems started hunting for the black vote back with FDR and didn't swing past 50% until the 60s and since then have built it to 90%. W put in work last year to make it so that the GOP candidate in 2036 might be able to get more than 50% of the black vote, don't expect a huge swing by 08, that's just not how demographic balances generally change (unless ther's some miracle and somebody gets a tape of Hillary using the N word).

They're already writing off Cosby as a Tom. Who the heck watches PBS, Cosby isn't going to influence black voters from there.

I don't think anybody as old as Cosby has anything even remotely resembling street cred.


90 posted on 04/16/2005 9:06:15 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: Alouette
Sooner or later everyone in the State Department has their brains sucked out by the Saudis

Best post of the day, maybe the week, or even the month.

BUMP!

91 posted on 04/16/2005 9:06:52 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: B Knotts
Frist is too busy being a politician. Like Dole he'll pass away (figuratively)
92 posted on 04/16/2005 9:07:49 PM PDT by jla
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To: Echo Talon
And what do you know someone that is going to overturn Roe vs. Wade? Does that mean we should nominate a pro abort candidate?

It's all about supreme court appointments.

Let's hope that Hillary never has a chance to appoint anybody to anything.

93 posted on 04/16/2005 9:08:22 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: swheats
Of course ppl have a right to question qualifications, but it's unfortunate the questions are more of are we ready for a black president? More than are they qualified.

..given the Right person (any color/female/male), as long as the person understands the problems/solutions needed/the limits of fed. gov can do...the authors; Walter Williams/Shelby Steele would be nice :), but Mr. Steele (OH. A.G.) looks OK, needs a govennorship. Condi Rice needs to run for an elected office...Right now, there's no real stand-outs.

94 posted on 04/16/2005 9:09:47 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Of course in 1997 who thought George W Bush had a chance in hell.

Really handicapping the next presidential contest before the previous mid-terms is an excercise of pure political masterbation


95 posted on 04/16/2005 9:12:24 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: rdb3; swheats
First, swheats is a black female. Second, she's not baiting. She is raising a valid issue. That's just the way it is.

...FINE ...extract foot from mouth. :)

96 posted on 04/16/2005 9:13:06 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Graybeard58

So you think if Rice were elected that she wouldnt put forward pro-life judges? I think she would.


97 posted on 04/16/2005 9:15:05 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: kabar
"Describing pro-lifers as "the other side" is one of the ways Miss Rice articulates her position as a "mildly pro-choice"...

The above part of the article takes Miss Rice opinion on abortion out of some vague context. Why play games of vague-context-gotcha, when there are very specific things that Miss Rice says that can be quoted that show her opinion on abortion.

I'll repeat it;


98 posted on 04/16/2005 9:17:23 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: jla; Mudboy Slim

I loved Jesse Helms! :)

Mud --

Love your Senator Allen -- signs in OK outside our Convention -- Allen in 08 and then when I was leaving I saw one that said Oklahomans for Allen in 08 and some guy asked me if that was my sign! :)


99 posted on 04/16/2005 9:19:32 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for Oklahoma Governor -- Run J.C. Run)
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To: Echo Talon
So you think if Rice were elected that she wouldnt put forward pro-life judges? I think she would.

Yes, I think she would too.

I have no idea who the Republican nominee will be but I can say whoever it is will be a better choice than Hillary.

Yes, even John McCain.

100 posted on 04/16/2005 9:20:34 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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