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Astonishing But True! Replies to FR Poll on Potential POTUS

Posted on 04/16/2005 7:51:04 PM PDT by jla

"We know nothing really about her, but by God, Condi is our gal!" --- Anonymous Freeper


I've repeatedly asked here at FR for anyone to tell me *CONDI'S* stand on a number of issues ranging from economics to school prayer.
I have yet to receive one reply to my queries on where Miss Rice stands on a number of issues.

So can someone please tell me, especially you, Section 9, why I should be excited about a possible Condi Rice presidency run?

FYI: Miss R. in my opinion will prove to be an excellent Sec of State. But POTUS? Sorry, unlike a lot of Freepers my vote requires more than a cute smile or even worse, a fanatical appreciation of the Condi stare.

No wonder so many here can't seem to get behind Tom DeLay.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; condiminimum; condiwantstoheadnfl; doesntmatter; enoughalready; notnews; shedoesntwantit; stupidvanity; wontbecondi
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To: skinkinthegrass; swheats
Any Racist/Separatist "baiting" going on out there?

First, swheats is a black female. Second, she's not baiting. She is raising a valid issue. That's just the way it is.


61 posted on 04/16/2005 8:40:30 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: discostu; rdb3
I don't think Condi would take a significant portion of the black vote, problem with the black voting block is that they believe strongly in the "uncle tom"

She could change that "uncle tom" attitude, and besides, Cosby and conservative black FReepers have already shown that it's on its way out bigtime. I often look to black Americans for moral clarity these days.

62 posted on 04/16/2005 8:41:49 PM PDT by risk
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I didn't think it was asking for OUR choice of candidate. If Condi runs against Hillary she'll clean Hillary's clock.

Hillary will win the standard 90+% of the black vote, and the majority of the women's and other minorities' vote. Hillary will win all of the states won by Kerry.

Condi has never run for or held elective office. Only Hoover and Eisenhower have had that resume in the 20th century. Condi has not yet come under the same kind of scrutiny a Presidential candidate will experience. We have not heard her positions on social issues such as gay marriage, immigration, gun control, etc. Her mild pro-choice position was just one of many surprises that may come out. She has also never been married, which may or may not be a problem with the voters.

63 posted on 04/16/2005 8:42:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Trinity5

Heh! Well to be fair, I'm not sure what she did there. If you come across detailed material about her provostship, please let me know.


64 posted on 04/16/2005 8:43:12 PM PDT by risk
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To: kabar
... pro-choice


65 posted on 04/16/2005 8:43:20 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Where have I heard this before?

Oh yeah, the last presidential election.

The ABB philosophy was soundly rejected. Dean was dumped for Kerry because they thought he was more electable, and anyone would have been better than Bush.

Until that shot of John in the blue clean room suit...


66 posted on 04/16/2005 8:43:32 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: StACase
We all know why many Freepers want Condi to run, but they aren't saying, and neither am I.

Just the shear joy of seeing the Dem's heads explode.

67 posted on 04/16/2005 8:44:04 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: risk
She could change that "uncle tom" attitude, and besides, Cosby and conservative black FReepers have already shown that it's on its way out bigtime.

True, but we still have a lot of work to do.


68 posted on 04/16/2005 8:44:33 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: risk

She's a Republican black with Conservative values. In the modern black community (over 90% of whom voted for Al Gore remember) that clearly makes her a Tom.

Cosby and conservative black FReepers are part of that less than 10%, sadly they don't get to speak for their community, the social leaders that have the black community voting largely in lockstep are hardcore welfare state liberals that have shown they're extremely skilled at belittling and marginalizing people like Rice and Cosby.


69 posted on 04/16/2005 8:46:52 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: PhiKapMom; Mudboy Slim
Senator George Allen is cut of the same cloth as President Reagan. He is pro-life, religious, believes in accountability, judges that rule on the law not make the law, do the crime serve the "complete" time, pro-defense, conservative, articulate, witty, and loves football!

I'm all for Sen. Allen.
PhiKapMom, hypothetically speaking, how would you've reacted to a Jesse Helms Presidential candidacy?

Mudboy...PhiKapMom's givin' me the business! -




God love her.

70 posted on 04/16/2005 8:47:41 PM PDT by jla
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To: jla
It's the same thing.

That's ridiculous. It most certainly is not.

71 posted on 04/16/2005 8:48:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: discostu

Pealing away as little as an additional 1-2% of the black vote would cause major problems for the Democrats.


72 posted on 04/16/2005 8:50:36 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Tell me why it's "ridiculous".


73 posted on 04/16/2005 8:50:36 PM PDT by jla
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To: rdb3

I'm more worried about issues that impact job opportunities for all American citizens than I am about the so-called plantation mentality among blacks. (We've got it among whites now, and by the numbers, even worse.) If we remember that Americans of all races are willing to do any job for fair market wages, a lot of these problems will improve. I'm sick of hearing the idea that Americans won't do this or that.


74 posted on 04/16/2005 8:51:49 PM PDT by risk
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To: jla
Yes, it is. Because Hillary is the de facto candidate of the Dems so any *poll* would be pitting a candidate against Madam H.

That makes absolutely no sense.

75 posted on 04/16/2005 8:52:31 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: discostu
Cosby and conservative black FReepers are part of that less than 10%, sadly they don't get to speak for their community, the social leaders that have the black community voting largely in lockstep are hardcore welfare state liberals that have shown they're extremely skilled at belittling and marginalizing people like Rice and Cosby.

You know, you're right. But a huge part of the problem with blacks and the GOP is that the GOP has totally failed in battling the image Dems have painted them with.

President G. W. Bush is the one I point to as to why I finally joined the GOP. When campaigning last year in Detroit, he simply asked for blacks to vote for him. That shows the seriousness in valuing the black community by simply respecting them enough to ask for their vote. Who did that before him?

The Dems say that the GOP is full of kluxers, to which the GOP had remained relatively quiet. Therefore, the win by default goes to the Dems.


76 posted on 04/16/2005 8:52:34 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: rdb3

Hi rdb. Seems Bush 43/44 has changed or raised the bar on who would be presidential material. Many didn't believe he could do it either.


77 posted on 04/16/2005 8:53:14 PM PDT by swheats
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To: jla
Tell me why it's "ridiculous".

Because you are saying two totally different things are the same. That is indeed ridiculous.

78 posted on 04/16/2005 8:54:15 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Pealing away as little as an additional 1-2% of the black vote would cause major problems for the Democrats.

That peeling away helped deliver Ohio to Bush last year.


79 posted on 04/16/2005 8:54:26 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: FreeReign
Another excerpt from the same article:

"Miss Rice said abortion should be "as rare a circumstance as possible," although without excessive government intervention. "We should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other."

"So, for instance, I've tended to agree with those who do not favor federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it."

"Describing pro-lifers as "the other side" is one of the ways Miss Rice articulates her position as a "mildly pro-choice" Republican. She explained that she is "in effect kind of libertarian on this issue," adding: "I have been concerned about a government role. "

80 posted on 04/16/2005 8:54:33 PM PDT by kabar
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