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She's a piece of work. Jackson is also, but this woman is not a credible witness.
1 posted on 04/16/2005 10:04:11 AM PDT by Hawk44
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Jackson's lawyers evidently are worth every penny.


2 posted on 04/16/2005 10:05:38 AM PDT by hershey
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Pedophiles don't prey on solidly nuclear families. They deliberately go after dysfunctional families and families with little or not parental supervision.

Then when the sexual abuse is discovered and reported and the matter goes to trial, the pedophile's attorneys claim the complainants aren't reliable.

It's worked for a number of years.


4 posted on 04/16/2005 10:08:54 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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No Matter how credible this witness is..is no reason for a mistrial.

MJ is a pediphile...should he go free because of this woman, to prey on other childern..NO!


5 posted on 04/16/2005 10:10:01 AM PDT by joyce11111
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From the article:

"And then there was District Attorney Tom Sneddon, who sat not with the other prosecutors during this brutal performance, but on a bench behind them. In full view of the jury, Sneddon sat with his head often in his hands, looking askance at what he's wrought."

Incredible. This is a good piece, but this trial has obviously collapsed.


7 posted on 04/16/2005 10:16:39 AM PDT by jocon307 (Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again!)
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It matters little about the mother's credibility.
After all, she is the one who placed her children in the danger zone.
She already showed her serious lack of judgement.
Luckily this trial is not about her, it is about the children and that sick, lascivious, vile little turd who has escaped justice so many times.
9 posted on 04/16/2005 10:19:56 AM PDT by SolidRedState (E Pluribus Funk --- (Latin taglines are sooooo cool! Don't ya think?))
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Cross examinations should be outlawed in those cases whereby we all know the perp is guilty.


18 posted on 04/16/2005 10:52:46 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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It's sad, too, because even if she is not credible, it doesn't mean her son wasn't molested. I believe Jackson is a serial molester, and if it weren't for his money and fame, he'd be sitting in a cell with Chester the Molester and all his buddies. There really does seem to be one kind of justice for the rich and/or famous, and another for everyone else.


19 posted on 04/16/2005 10:54:19 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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Jackson is also, but this woman is not a credible witness.

The defense can always ask the jury, "Would you trust the word of a woman who could turn her small child over to a known pedophile?"

21 posted on 04/16/2005 10:56:13 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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In full view of the jury, Sneddon sat with his head often in his hands, looking askance at what he's wrought. Sneddon has devoted the last twelve years to proving Jackson is a child molester, but he chose the wrong case and the wrong people to close his deal.

Jackson is going to walk. Sneddon is going to look like an idiot.

26 posted on 04/16/2005 11:03:44 AM PDT by Drew68
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Lots of problems here. Witnesses have not been the best in the world. All seem to have somewhat shady past. The mother seems to be a stone nut case. But my main problem is what was the molestation. Does it merit the millions to bring to trial. If the solid evidence doesn't fit, well you know what Cochran said, you have to acquit. But having said that, Jackson is a child. He never grew up. What made him famous is the support team that propelled him. I feel sorry for him and he needs help bad. If they find him guilty, what would they do with him? I feel he is guilty, but his guilt is that of 10 to 12 year old boys playing around. Grab ass is one thing, real molestation by a true adult is another.


32 posted on 04/16/2005 11:19:05 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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The parade of children that have marched through this deviant's "Neverland" is more than enough for me. All the other witnesses are just bullshoes.

Jackson is a pedophile. His own sister said as much during the previous trial, when Jackson bought off his "rubbah" of the moment with $20 million.
45 posted on 04/16/2005 11:51:44 AM PDT by Beckwith (I knew Churchill, and Ward Churchill is no Churchill . . . he ain't no Indian either . . .)
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Unless there is an "OJ Jury" syndrome here, Michael Jackson will be convicted of felony weirdness. The individual pieces of the case against him are less important than the whole.

And as a jury of his peers, how do normal people support themselves for months at a time on juror pay? I know I would be filing for bankruptcy and losing my house if I was sitting in a court room that long. Too bad this justice is based on how much justice the defendant can afford, instead of the people on the jury.

52 posted on 04/16/2005 11:58:11 AM PDT by Bernard (Memory is the second thing to go. I forget what goes first.)
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If she was the one on trial, I'd say she's got a problem. Yet it's wakko on trail, and if the witness and other testimony results in a conviction, may he rot.
53 posted on 04/16/2005 12:00:08 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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70 posted on 04/16/2005 12:42:34 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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Just cut off his balls, and let him moonwalk the streets!


73 posted on 04/16/2005 12:55:53 PM PDT by aShepard
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[ She came across on the stand during her cross-examination by Thomas Mesereau as a compulsive and pathological liar, a shrewd manipulator and a real operator. But she was also quite sad, and unable to control her emotions. ]

Pathological liars, Professional liars, Pedophilical liars..
There would be no case without all three..
Mesereau might be all three by himself..

75 posted on 04/16/2005 1:04:36 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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How about we throw the lot of them in jail and call it a day?


83 posted on 04/16/2005 3:02:36 PM PDT by Quick1
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in a normal country no one would pay attention to this trial.

that was before television.


84 posted on 04/16/2005 3:05:54 PM PDT by ken21 ( wasn't fr supposed to be a place to discuss ideas?)
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It's now time to stop the madness and declare a mistrial in California vs. Jackson.

I've got a different take on Michael Jackson. Reprehensible as pedophilia is, he shouldn't be held any more culpable than two eleven year old's playing "doctor".

Clearly, M.J. is severely emotionally arrested, even going so far as to name his rance "Neverland" of Peter Pan (the boy who never grew up) fame.

I hold Sony Music solely responsible for not keeping him on a short leash knowing full well his prediliction for deviant behavior, and insisting that he get proper psychological counseling. They should have held his money in trust, appointed a guardian, given him a modest allowance like any child, and prevented all of this grief from happening in the first instance.

89 posted on 04/16/2005 3:59:55 PM PDT by infocats
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She's a piece of work. ...

Sure she is! Perfect example of the type of weakling jackson preyed upon.

108 posted on 04/17/2005 8:23:32 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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