Bérubé vs. Horowitz: Is the Left in Bed With Terrorists?

frontpagemag.com ^ | April 8, 2005 | Jamie Glazov

[Tolik]

Interesting!

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[FreedomPoster]

By that standard, anyone with negative views of the Bush administration or the war in Iraq is an ally of Zarqawi. Suffice it to say that I don't think this mode of argumentation -- construing liberal dissenters as supporters of terrorists -- is appropriate for people living in republics and democracies.

Paraphrasing: "Just because we believe and say many of the same things as terrorists, don't say we support the terrorists, and not our troops and our country. Despite very little evidence of support for the latter."

[Valin]

Ya beat me to it! Grrrrr.

[Valin]

More specifically, my objection to the Network is this. It’s one thing to associate [International ANSWER’s Brian Becker, Ramsey Clark, or [National Lawyers Guild convicted terrorist] Lynne Stewart with political Islamists; these people truly have gone around the bend, and are making what amounts to a red-brown alliance between the far far left and the far far right of Islamism. It’s quite another thing -- an indefensible thing, I think -- to suggest, as this database does, that there is a ‘network’ linking people like Katie Couric to Mohammed Atta, Zacarias Moussaoui to Roger Ebert.


The problem I have is I've yet to see the likes of Katie Couric..Roger Ebert..Barbra Streisand...Bill Moyers come out and attack Brian Becker, Ramsey Clark...etc for being "Around the bend" or criticize them on anyway. So what is a person supposed to think.

[Valin]

Not a polar bear. :-)

[pointsal]

ping

[The Electrician]

Wow, Berube showed himself to be exactly what Horowitz describes - the prototypical leftist who when pressed with a well-supported intellectual argument responds instead with name calling, completely unable to muster an intellectual argument in support of his own position. A very skilful skewering of the left by Horowitz, with a disappointing but not unexpected performance by Berube.

[pointsal]

the website >>>www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org<<<

Sure looks like it has the loonies listed in about the same way that I feel about them.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.
"DO BEARS CRAP IN THE WOODS?"

I used to use the question "Is the Pope Polish?" to illustrate the obvious. Now I have to find a new tool.

Michael Frazier

[BufordP]

D.C. Chapter ping.

[bmwcyle]

-- its support of South African apartheid

Now South Africans wake up under Socialism. Let's free them for good.

[sauropod]

Berube has been measured and found wanting.

Great article.

[lilmsdangrus]

bump!!

[Jimmy Valentine's brother]

Thanks for the ping. Did you checkout the site?

[Texas_Jarhead]

Thanks for posting. I look forward to reading the exchange with Jenson whom I thoroughly loathe.

[libs_kma]

"It’s quite another thing -- an indefensible thing, I think -- to suggest, as this database does, that there is a ‘network’ linking people like Katie Couric to Mohammed Atta, Zacarias Moussaoui to Roger Ebert. So this ‘network’ deliberately confuses the distinction between people who criticize Lynne Stewart and Ramsey Clark and people who support them, and this fact alone renders the very idea of a ‘network’ incoherent."

Ummmm...Berube, my man, the people that criticize Lynn Stewart and Ramsey Clark are call "Conservatives" and the scumbags who support her are called "Scumbags"....I think the distinction is pretty clear. There are no Conservatives listed on discoverthenetwork.com and there are plenty of scumbags listed.

It's as clear as the cankles on the Beast (when she's not sporting the pantsuit at least).

[justa-hairyape]

the prototypical leftist who when pressed with a well-supported intellectual argument responds instead with name calling, completely unable to muster an intellectual argument in support of his own position.

Although the left may have some intelligence (the ability to remember the latest name calling response against the right), it has very little wisdom (the ability to constructively formulate new arguements).

[AmericanVictory]

Exactly, why has the end of Apartheid resulting in a steady downward cycle of South Africa's economy, leading to the spreading of poverty, not the development of greater prosperity? Why has crime gone out of control and entrepreneurship vanished?