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1 posted on 04/06/2005 7:55:46 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

New oilfields are only half the answer. We need to increase refining capacity as well.


2 posted on 04/06/2005 8:00:52 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (Sniper: "One shot, one kill". Machinegunner: "One shot, one kill...again, & again & again".)
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To: Valin

Bump for later read.


4 posted on 04/06/2005 8:07:46 AM PDT by Marauder (But your honor, the bed was already on fire when I crawled into it!)
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To: Valin

BTTT


5 posted on 04/06/2005 8:08:12 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Valin
Last August, Fortune magazine ran a cover story entitled, "How to Kick the Oil Habit." Incredibly, the 5,000-world article did not once mention nuclear power.

That is incredible.

6 posted on 04/06/2005 8:09:02 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Valin

Nuclear power can be extremely efficient. I was a nuclear power plant operator on Nimitz class carriers. On one ship we calculated our fuel usage rate at over 8,000 Nautical Miles per gram. With improvements in fuel loading and core design it can be even better.


7 posted on 04/06/2005 8:13:02 AM PDT by P8riot (Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.)
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To: Valin

See this article about hybrid cars and expensive gasoline

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378468/posts
Hybrid-Car Tinkerers Scoff at No-Plug-In Rule


8 posted on 04/06/2005 8:14:28 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Valin
I for one am all for ANWR because, as I have been told, it will decrease our dependence on foreign oil. However I heard something today that hopefully someone here can clear up for me. The Alaska Pipeline goes to northern Alaska, Oil drilled in Alaska will use this pipeline for transport.

And from what I have heard so far, all of the oil in the Alaska Pipeline is sold to users outside the United States. So other then Oil companies making more money, how the h*ll are we going to reduce our dependence on Foreign(Read Opec) oil this way?

9 posted on 04/06/2005 8:15:08 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: Valin

Is the ANWR debate really over? After all the decades of arguments, it's hard to imagine that this has now been settled. If so, it's great news.


10 posted on 04/06/2005 8:16:39 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Valin

Nuclear power for the grid(s), and two words for mechanized transportation: methane clathrates.


11 posted on 04/06/2005 8:17:22 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Valin
Such shifts have occurred throughout history. We turned to kerosene lanterns after 1860 because whale oil was getting scarce. When oil supplies thin out, we may get a boost from natural gas. But natural gas supplies are also limited, which means we must eventually turn to running our cars on electricity or hydrogen generated from electricity.

And we get hydrogen from where? Oh yeah from fossil fuel... never mind.

14 posted on 04/06/2005 8:50:33 AM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: Valin

NO NUKES, just windmills.


24 posted on 04/06/2005 10:07:40 AM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: Valin

Who needs fusion power research when we have welfare bills to pay?


26 posted on 04/06/2005 10:21:48 AM PDT by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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"In a word, economic reality suddenly intruded. No environmentalist is going to chain themselves to the gates of ANWR when it costs $40 to fill your tank. Pillorying "Big Oil" is one thing. Confronting an angry public is another."

Well said! That sentence speaks VOLUMES about what self-serving chickenchits EnviroWackos can be.

You know, I don't mind people having convictions. I conserve natural resources where I can, but I don't demand that anyone else do so.

I've always wanted to see some in-depth interviews with these types. Where do they live? Do they have electricity and running water? Do they only use (chemically soaked when grown) natural cotton garments? What about leather shoes? Do they drive? If not, they'd better be biking because mass transit consumed natural resources as well.

You get my drift...


28 posted on 04/06/2005 10:27:33 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Valin

I had some fun at the pumps yesterday. As I was filling up, another woman pulled up at the next pump. Though a stranger, she asked me where I thought it would stop. I said, "Gee, that depends. If we can get some new refineries built, start drilling in ANWR, and use alternate transportation when it makes sense, we might have a chance. If not, it'll go over $3/gallon." This is in Madison, WI (80 square miles, surrounded by reality), so I suspect she didn't care for any of my suggestions. I was done filling up, though, so I didn't stick around! :-)


30 posted on 04/06/2005 10:31:47 AM PDT by knittnmom
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To: Valin

bump


33 posted on 04/06/2005 10:48:11 AM PDT by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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To: Valin

I never hear it suggested that eliminating gasoline taxes would be a great way to bring down the pump price. I wonder why. And yes, those pennies do make a difference.


35 posted on 04/06/2005 11:01:52 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: Valin
"soft path"--solar collectors, backyard windmills

Haha. These two forms of producing energy would destroy or render uninhabitable more acreage than oil, gas and nuclear power.

37 posted on 04/06/2005 11:08:17 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Valin

Yep...President Bush said we'd come to these gas prices without his energy policy being passed....and here we are folks.


54 posted on 04/06/2005 1:34:23 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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