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UNNECESSARY EPIDEMIC Hidden Powerhouses Underlie Meth's Ugly Spread
The Oregonian ^ | April 3, 2005 | STEVE SUO

Posted on 04/05/2005 12:06:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: Czar

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No doubt the FROBLs/SOILs/CALs will find the solution for us
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I think I know what FROBL means (FreeRepublic Open Borders Lobby or FRiends of Osama Bin Laden?). What do SOIL and CAL mean?


141 posted on 04/07/2005 4:41:42 PM PDT by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: evilC; Travis McGee; wardaddy; Dead Corpse; Marine Inspector; spodefly; HiJinx
Your first definition of FROBLs is the generally accepted one by those of us which constitute the anti-illegal alien contingent on FR.

Because the opposing side objected to the "open borders" tag, saying they were really not in favor of open borders (perhaps only a very few were), we developed what we believe to be a fairer tag: SOILs (Soft On Illegals Lobby). However, since no good deed goes unpunished, it turns out the soft on illegals side also objects to SOILs (our response: tough).

CALS = Criminal Alien Lobby. At the moment, I don't recall which one of us came up with that one. To be fair, not all of the SOILs are also CALs (perhaps only a couple).

142 posted on 04/07/2005 5:04:48 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Les_Miserables

I don't necessarily disagree with your approach. I think we should try to persuade people to leave drugs alone. The only thing I disagree with is your assertion that people can become addicted to methamphetamine from one use of the drug. You are convinced that you are right . It's not worth it to me to argue with you about it. I said my piece and I'm done.


143 posted on 04/07/2005 5:41:57 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: Czar

Thanks!

Maybe we could call them PAMIs (People Afraid to be Mean to Illegals) ...

... or maybe not.


144 posted on 04/07/2005 8:22:55 PM PDT by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: Czar

I think of FROBLs, CALs and SOILs as traitor trolls.


145 posted on 04/07/2005 8:24:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
You also slurred the name of a good man, keep it up and I foresee you'll go far.

I have never heard of him, and did not mention him.

Lies are all you seem to be able to come up with.

146 posted on 04/08/2005 6:01:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Travis McGee; wardaddy; spodefly; Marine Inspector; Dead Corpse; HiJinx; janetgreen; BurbankKarl; ..
I've been thinking about this, trying to figure out why any American citizen, especially people participating in a forum clearly labeled as a conservative site, have such a cavalier and dangerous attitude toward the flood of illegal aliens into our country.

Although they may claim otherwise, they certainly cannot, by definition, be conservatives. Some say they lean libertarian on certain issues while others demonstrate total, almost unquestioning, support of President Bush (e.g., the preposterous notion that his guest worker proposal isn't really an amnesty). Setting aside the ones who may in some way benefit from the cheap labor and those who may be ethnically involved, I suspect what we have here, for the most part, is the GOP "Big Tent"/RINO/liberal/moderate factor coming home to roost. It's the only explanation that makes sense to me.

In any event, they seem to share one common trait: they care nothing for American sovereignty, protecting the borders or preserving American culture, language and customs. I find this reprehensible and will continue to oppose such a put-America-last attitude.

147 posted on 04/08/2005 8:33:26 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
I divide them into traitors, undeclared foreign agents, and unwitting dupes.

No conservatives among them.

148 posted on 04/08/2005 8:54:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You also slurred the name of a good man, keep it up and I foresee you'll go far.

I have never heard of him. try again because you had heard of him when I told you his story in post 130 and again at post 140. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you simply refuse to see where you had heard of him beginning in my posting # 130? , and did not mention him.Why mention him since he didn't measure up as an example of how bad police are.

Lies are all you seem to be able to come up with.

There's an old adage that's applicable here. When you point a finger at someone, remember you have three pointing back at you. You pointed a finger at me being a liar....take a look at the three pointing back at you.

149 posted on 04/08/2005 1:16:22 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (Welcome my sister, Alexis the Bengal Kitty! Also, please pardon typo's as I have broken shoulder.)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
I have never heard of him. try again because you had heard of him when I told you his story in post 130 and again at post 140. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or do you simply refuse to see where you had heard of him beginning in my posting # 130?

Show me where I slandered him, psycho.

150 posted on 04/08/2005 1:20:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Travis McGee
...and all of them gathered together under that wonderful old GOP Big Tent home for RINOs, liberals, centrists and moderates.

Agreed--not a conservative in the bunch.

151 posted on 04/08/2005 1:49:32 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Travis McGee

Mr. McGee? Would you add my name to your Ping list? Thanks. :)

Meth is a HUGE problem in Wisconsin, as well. Eventhough I loathe the socialists that run our state government (for now; times are changing) I do give them credit for recognizing Meth for the problem it is, and trying to do something about it.

http://www.wppa.com/news/03-05/AG_report.htm


152 posted on 04/08/2005 1:55:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I will Diana, but I don't use it much. Mostly I just ping a few folks I know are interested in a given subject. So I'll only use the big ping list once it a while, okay?

Matt/Travis

153 posted on 04/08/2005 2:00:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Works for me. :)


154 posted on 04/08/2005 2:02:33 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Okie dokie.


155 posted on 04/08/2005 2:10:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
psycho; Lies are all you seem to be able to come up with.; You are just like the bleating sheep who cry for more gun control everytime some psycopath goes on a rampage; But macho brainless, knee-jerk types like you don't care about facts; But just keep bleating like a brainless sheep.

People who have to resort to the type of rhetoric you use (examples shown above) are people I don't care to associate with. You are impolite, rude and don't give a flying fig about common decent courtesy. In plain english, don't post to me again as life is too short to put up with such boorish behaviour.

A little hint, you do your side no favour in behaving the way you do. Just as soon as you lumped me in with "the bleating sheep who cry for more gun control" you lost any respect I might have had for your position.

I hope you are somehow able to gain control of your anger as it has the potential to damage your health, your relationships and your mental well being.

156 posted on 04/08/2005 3:31:05 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (Welcome my sister, Alexis the Bengal Kitty! Also, please pardon typo's as I have broken shoulder.)
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To: Sally'sConcerns
I hope you are somehow able to gain control of your anger as it has the potential to damage your health, your relationships and your mental well being.

Said the kettle to the pot.

You're the one who drug your dead friend's name into this and accused me of besmirching his memory.

I guess that you think all you have to do to win an argument is throw a dead person's name around and everybody is supposed to fall to their knees in adoration.

157 posted on 04/09/2005 1:05:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Lead Moderator; Admin Moderator
Dear Mods,

I specifically requested EPU not post to me again in my post #156. My exact words were "In plain english, don't post to me again as life is too short to put up with such boorish behaviour"

He continues to post to me even after I requested he not do so as shown in post 157.

I am requesting the mods assistance in this matter since I don't like being described by this particular poster in some of the ways I'll quote below to you: {Especially since he is beginning to feel somewhat like a stalker in this thread.)

psycho; Lies are all you seem to be able to come up with.; You are just like the bleating sheep who cry for more gun control everytime some psycopath goes on a rampage; But macho brainless, knee-jerk types like you don't care about facts; But just keep bleating like a brainless sheep. I guess that you think all you have to do to win an argument is throw a dead person's name around and everybody is supposed to fall to their knees in adoration.

I appreciate any assistance the mods can grant me in this matter. Thanks for all you do!

158 posted on 04/09/2005 4:03:31 PM PDT by Sally'sConcerns (Welcome my sister, Alexis the Bengal Kitty! Also, please pardon typo's as I have broken shoulder.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Sally'sConcerns

Please refrain from posting to Sally'sConcerns, as asked. Thank you.


159 posted on 04/09/2005 4:05:35 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: TKDietz

Agreed, me too.


160 posted on 04/10/2005 6:39:18 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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