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Okay, We Give Up [Scientific American "Caves" on Evolution]
Scientific American ^ | 01 April 2005 (ponder that) | Editorial staff

Posted on 04/05/2005 8:56:03 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

There's no easy way to admit this. For years, helpful letter writers told us to stick to science. They pointed out that science and politics don't mix. They said we should be more balanced in our presentation of such issues as creationism, missile defense and global warming. We resisted their advice and pretended not to be stung by the accusations that the magazine should be renamed Unscientific American, or Scientific Unamerican, or even Unscientific Unamerican. But spring is in the air, and all of nature is turning over a new leaf, so there's no better time to say: you were right, and we were wrong.

In retrospect, this magazine's coverage of so-called evolution has been hideously one-sided. For decades, we published articles in every issue that endorsed the ideas of Charles Darwin and his cronies. True, the theory of common descent through natural selection has been called the unifying concept for all of biology and one of the greatest scientific ideas of all time, but that was no excuse to be fanatics about it. Where were the answering articles presenting the powerful case for scientific creationism? Why were we so unwilling to suggest that dinosaurs lived 6,000 years ago or that a cataclysmic flood carved the Grand Canyon? Blame the scientists. They dazzled us with their fancy fossils, their radiocarbon dating and their tens of thousands of peer-reviewed journal articles. As editors, we had no business being persuaded by mountains of evidence.

Moreover, we shamefully mistreated the Intelligent Design (ID) theorists by lumping them in with creationists. Creationists believe that God designed all life, and that's a somewhat religious idea. But ID theorists think that at unspecified times some unnamed superpowerful entity designed life, or maybe just some species, or maybe just some of the stuff in cells. That's what makes ID a superior scientific theory: it doesn't get bogged down in details.

Good journalism values balance above all else. We owe it to our readers to present everybody's ideas equally and not to ignore or discredit theories simply because they lack scientifically credible arguments or facts. Nor should we succumb to the easy mistake of thinking that scientists understand their fields better than, say, U.S. senators or best-selling novelists do. Indeed, if politicians or special-interest groups say things that seem untrue or misleading, our duty as journalists is to quote them without comment or contradiction. To do otherwise would be elitist and therefore wrong. In that spirit, we will end the practice of expressing our own views in this space: an editorial page is no place for opinions.

Get ready for a new Scientific American. No more discussions of how science should inform policy. If the government commits blindly to building an anti-ICBM defense system that can't work as promised, that will waste tens of billions of taxpayers' dollars and imperil national security, you won't hear about it from us. If studies suggest that the administration's antipollution measures would actually increase the dangerous particulates that people breathe during the next two decades, that's not our concern. No more discussions of how policies affect science either -- so what if the budget for the National Science Foundation is slashed? This magazine will be dedicated purely to science, fair and balanced science, and not just the science that scientists say is science. And it will start on April Fools' Day.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aprilfools; clueless; crevolist; science; scientificamerican
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
Oh, sorry. It probably should have occurred to me that National Geographic wouldn't be going against Darwin. At least somebody in the back of my brain thought it was a bit odd, but I guess the message never got to the front.
81 posted on 04/05/2005 12:21:04 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest
And now I just noticed that the actual title was indeed "Was Darwin Wrong", instead of "Darwin Was Wrong", which is how my dyslexic brain had read it to me.
82 posted on 04/05/2005 12:26:27 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: PatrickHenry
Indeed, if politicians or special-interest groups say things that seem untrue or misleading, our duty as journalists is to quote them without comment or contradiction.

Yes. It's time we stopped making ad hominem attacks on creationists by pointing out that what they say is false and/or stupid. We should let them control the science curriculum, not because they know any science (they don't), but because it's their turn! Yes!

83 posted on 04/05/2005 12:36:51 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

It would be bad for their self-esteem not to.


84 posted on 04/05/2005 12:43:52 PM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: js1138; VadeRetro
What are you afraid of? Why do you deny them freedom of speech? All they want is academic freedom, fairness, and an opportunity to be heard. You should teach both sides. Teach the controversy. Let the children decide. Censorship is unfair! They're the victims of a conspiracy.

And while you're at it, teach this stuff too:
Flat Earth Society
The Young Earth
The Earth is Not Moving!
NASA Fakes Moon Landing!
Earth Orbits? Moon Landings? A Fraud!

85 posted on 04/05/2005 1:01:26 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Affirmative Action for peer review juries.


86 posted on 04/05/2005 1:03:46 PM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: dead
I am a person who believes in evolution and I subscribe to Scientific American, but still I found this editorial smarmy, condescending and arrogant.

Absolutely right, and why I killed my subscription to SA years ago. To equate as settled and well-defined a question as evolution with as amorphous and controversial an issue as human caused global climate change, or with an entirely political public policy question like national missile defense shows the poor quality of what passes for "science" at "Scientific American," and what passes for analysis on their editorial page.

87 posted on 04/05/2005 2:25:53 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Vilings Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: Lazamataz; Cicero; Drammach
You all seem ripe for conversion. Please consider:

The Church of Zarguna, Scientist.

We believe God created the universe to impress Jodie Foster. We have some metaphysical and teleological problems, but we're working through them (kind of like the Episcopalians, except we're serious).

Hoping to recruit at least one new member before April 15.

88 posted on 04/05/2005 2:38:10 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Vilings Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: FredZarguna
To equate as settled and well-defined a question as evolution with as amorphous and controversial an issue as human caused global climate change, or with an entirely political public policy question like national missile defense

Note that they also were too cowardly to attempt to link those issues together in a serious defense of the charges of politicization of their magazine.

They took the vilely disingenous route of wrapping up that slander in an “April Fool’s” joke, so nobody can legitimately call them on it without looking like they “didn’t get it.”

I “got it” just fine. I would bet that a lot of their other conservative readers did as well.

89 posted on 04/05/2005 2:45:33 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Well ... the Smithsonian was backing Samuel Langley.


90 posted on 04/05/2005 2:55:13 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: PatrickHenry
Yeah, they're lefties. Much of academia is.

Because conservatism is all too often linked with creationist biblical-literalist nonsense that most rational people cant run away from fast enough.

91 posted on 04/05/2005 3:04:59 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Drammach
You are all aghast and mortified at being descended from apes..

:)

92 posted on 04/05/2005 3:05:43 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

agree..why MUST evolution mean that God didnt create everything ? Evolution was the tool and method of God's creation.


93 posted on 04/05/2005 3:08:23 PM PDT by hineybona
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To: RightWingNilla
Interesting, so does that also explain why liberals dominate academia in areas far removed from biological science, or why they dominate the media?
94 posted on 04/05/2005 3:10:15 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: PatrickHenry
"If the government commits blindly to building an anti-ICBM defense system that can't work as promised, that will waste tens of billions of taxpayers' dollars and imperil national security, you won't hear about it from us. If studies suggest that the administration's antipollution measures would actually increase the dangerous particulates that people breathe during the next two decades, that's not our concern. No more discussions of how policies affect science either -- so what if the budget for the National Science Foundation is slashed? This magazine will be dedicated purely to science, fair and balanced science, and not just the science that scientists say is science. And it will start on April Fools' Day."

The leftist political dinosaurs at Scientific American have far too much ideological bias to be allowed to write much more than April Fool's jokes.

95 posted on 04/05/2005 3:11:31 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: hineybona
"Evolution" in this context doesn't just mean slow, gradual change. It means, specifically, change that's brought about entirely by impersonal, naturalistic forces. That's what Darwin's theory is.
96 posted on 04/05/2005 3:13:50 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: hineybona

"Evolution was the tool and method of God's creation."

Yep. It's not like He didn't create the laws of nature or anything.


97 posted on 04/05/2005 3:15:16 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: inquest
Actually, most scientists I know would be judged "conservatives" by academics in the humanities/social sciences.

The Ward Churchills and the Answers in Genesis crowd have fallen off opposite sides of the reality cliff.

98 posted on 04/05/2005 3:17:41 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: RightWingNilla
Actually, most scientists I know would be judged "conservatives" by academics in the humanities/social sciences.

So doesn't that work against your theory?

99 posted on 04/05/2005 3:24:53 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: mikeus_maximus

"It's the baseless and unobserved extrapolatian to speciation that's debated."

"Speciation" is not debated by anyone serious. I am a petroleum geologist and engineer. There are core samples all up and downt he Permian Basin. I can spot the time period of a sample just from the type of simple snail fossils --- slowly changing from tube worms, to sprials, to conical (and spirals), to different sizes, etc.

Each incremental change is minute --- but if you compare the last with the first (with a couple million years in between), one would never guess they were related.

It's cummulative changes of finches' beaks, so to speak, slowly drawing branches apart until they no longer are the same "species."

On the topic of "species," a species is largely defined simply by whether a typical male and female of the (purported) species can mate and have viable offspring without artificial help. (For example, a quarterhorse and a American Standard can have colts that can have their own offspring. In contrast, to give a close example, a horse and a donkey can mate and have offspring, but it's (generally) not viable.)

Arguably, there has been speciation (or something very close) even among normal dogs --- take a chihuaa and a great dane. Ain't gonna happen --- barring artificial help such as in-vitro or some similar method --- by which one could cross a human and a chimp, if one was inclined (Yes, it has been tried in China --- Google "human chimera" or "human chimp hybrid -- truly distribing. In fact, humans are actually closer genetically than lions and tigers --- Google "Liger.")

Anyway, back to the Chiuaua and the Great Dane. Same wild dog ancestors. Now they barely resemble each other. That happened in 200-300 years of selective breeding --- essentially artificial evolution to please man.

Given a couple MILLION years and repeated episodes of pressure (changing climate conditions, geographic isolation, new preditors, disease, whatever) the change would be much more dramatic --- distinct speciation.

Sure, each step would be mere "intraspecies variation and adaption") but add a couple million steps together and you have something completely different when the branches of the family tree are compared.


100 posted on 04/05/2005 3:34:11 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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