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Wow! My eyes are opened now about Danforth -- although I suppose it doesn't matter much anymore since he's mostly out of the political picture. At least he was a staunch supporter of Judge Thomas. But his views on stem cell research on gay marriage are pretty disturbing, esp. because he rejects them as 'religious views'. And that he seems to equate this to writing religious docs, which is 'exactly what the Constitution says we can't do'.

Yikes!

-- Joe

1 posted on 04/03/2005 5:15:43 AM PDT by Joe Republc
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Why is it such a mystery for these people that sometimes a moral view will coincide with a religious view (Duh!). I am not religious but I oppose abortion and capital punishment on moral grounds. I cannot be called religious because my view might coincide with those of a religious person.

What is so hard about this to understand?

42 posted on 04/03/2005 7:55:59 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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By adopting religious views as political doctrine and legislation, the Republican Party is leading the country on a dangerous path that could trample the Constitution and lead to bitter divisio

Let me get this straight. Political activism that reflects religious views -- you know, like the ones in the Declaration of Independence and the writings of the Founders -- are "dangerous" and a threat to the Constitution. But activism promoting godlessness, perversion, humanism, immorality, and self-indulgence will be our salvation?

43 posted on 04/03/2005 7:56:18 AM PDT by IronJack
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"It's exactly what the Constitution says we can't do and it's exactly what we can't do...."

Not so, Mr. Danforth.

The Constitution limits congress in this issue, not we, the people.

Get a clue!

44 posted on 04/03/2005 7:59:03 AM PDT by nightdriver
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Danforth, an ordained Episcopal priest, has always been a RINO. Nothing new here.


56 posted on 04/03/2005 10:44:41 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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By adopting religious views as political doctrine and legislation, the Republican Party is leading the country on a dangerous path

We can't have laws against murder or theft since they are in the 10 Commandments.

61 posted on 04/03/2005 10:51:11 AM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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Yeah John, we should base our laws on the results of slanted ABC News polls.
That way we can be modern, and popular in the eyes of the world.
Justice will surely prevail in such a culture.
</sarcasm>


62 posted on 04/03/2005 10:52:42 AM PDT by G Larry (Aggressively promote conservative judges!)
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What the heck does he think the laws and Constitution of this country are based on now?


65 posted on 04/03/2005 10:55:39 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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Well, then, what do we do about that philosophical foundation of our Constitution--the oft-quoted "Declaration of Independence," with its references to a Supreme Being in four distinct manifestations--as "Creator," as "Divine Providence," as "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," and as the "Supreme Judge"?

According to Jefferson, "it was intended to be an expression of the American mind, and to give to that expression the proper tone and spirit called for by the occasion."

Of constitutional interpretation (the role of the judiciary), Jefferson advised:

"On every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."

"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them." - Jefferson

"Ideas have consequences," according to Weaver. Ideas such as those expressed by Jefferson and the other Founders produced the U. S. Constitution and the "miracle of America," an America that symbolizes liberty for oppressed peoples from all over the world.

Does Danforth, or any other 21st Century lawmaker believe that excluding ideas rooted in religious thought from the lawmaking process is somehow threatening to liberty?

If so, he should begin reading the prolific writings of the generation that conceived and brought forth this republic, including those who ratified it Constitution.

69 posted on 04/03/2005 11:11:26 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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Danforth has been opening his mouth quite a bit the past couple weeks.....and what is emanating is political clap-trap and theological heresy.

I wonder what made him crawl back into the public eye and what he's angling for. I thought he was retired and would retire to a trailer in the Ozarks.

I'll bet he wants a top-echelon job with the amoral World Council of Churches.....or something at the amoral United Nations.

Leni

72 posted on 04/03/2005 11:19:18 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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Danforth is an Episcopalian Priest. Has he been getting pony rides from Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson again? Not Christian not surprised.
74 posted on 04/03/2005 1:23:37 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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Consent of the governed.


76 posted on 04/03/2005 1:28:31 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Shopping for a new tag line.)
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Thou shall not kill. No need for a law based on religion.
87 posted on 04/03/2005 4:52:06 PM PDT by Brimack34
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INTREP - see my tag line


89 posted on 04/03/2005 8:17:42 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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Danforth, like many other CINO's, doesn't grasp the fact that faith makes up who you ARE, not something you DO.


101 posted on 04/05/2005 9:22:30 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("O Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight!")
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