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GOP Crack-Up? Pardon My Guffaw (Mark Steyn: Republicans "Did the Right Thing" re: Schiavo)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 4/03/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/03/2005 4:15:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: TASMANIANRED
That's an excellent point, but even much larger local crowds in the immediate area could have made a huge difference.
161 posted on 04/03/2005 3:01:57 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: OKIEDOC
I am sorry about the condition of your relative. I have a good friend from High School many years ago who went down exactly the same path. That road also led him to drugs, suicide attempts, and a truly wretched life.

I am a sinner too, we all are. If we were not sinners, then there would not have been any reason for the Christ to be scourged, tortured, and executed on a cross. But He did choose that path, because He wanted to save us.

I am so grateful that God promised to be sufficient enough, merciful enough, and loving enough to forgive us our sins if we confess them and are truly repentant. If I didn't have that gift from God, then I tell you I deserve Hell as much as anyone.

On the cultural side, we must remember this: the United States stands alone in the world as the only Christian nation. A majority of our population profess a belief and are Christians. No other nation on earth can say this.

If anyone wonders why America is the target of immoral and evil clutches, both from within and from without, all they have to do is ponder that.

162 posted on 04/03/2005 3:13:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: cookcounty

Plus the polls conducted by the MSM made it sound like Terri was on life support, which she was not. Peter Lemmings and other MSM squaking skulls used loaded language in reporting the story. They also "stacked the deck" in reporting the story. Made it sound like only right-wing nuts were supporting Terri when actually a wide spectrum of ideological persuasions were outraged at the affair. Had the polls been worded to reflect the actual situation, they would have shown the vast majority not supporting the husband, Greer, and felonious Felos. The MSM used nearly every propagandist trick to pervert the event.


163 posted on 04/03/2005 3:23:21 PM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: SkyPilot
W E L L S A I D SkyPilot

Many of the posters on these threads make me believe we have a better than average chance to win this cultural war.
164 posted on 04/03/2005 3:33:16 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: attiladhun2

The stakes here are incredibly high. The only hope the Demorats have left for power is in the Judiciary. That's why they put it all on the line in the Schiavo case. If the Demorats get public opinion on their side that the Judge acted legally and rightly, they can try to stopthe Bush Judiciary appointments; if the public sides with the Repubs, that they were morally right in bringing the case to the President and Congress, the Dems will have no political backing for filibustering Bush's appointments.



That's why the MSM tried to bias all the polls on this issue. Bush's judicial appointments are all on the line.

BTW, Steyn hits another bull's eye.


165 posted on 04/03/2005 3:34:09 PM PDT by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: DCPatriot
No, we have a paralyzing fear that Newt's victory of '94 and the subsequent increases we've enjoyed in the Congress have been destroyed by the bible thumpers...present company hopefully excepted.

About half of the coalition that elects republicans are Evangelical Christians. If your thought is that Evangelicals should show up every four years and vote for those parts of the Republican platform that you support and then quietly slink off and shut up with respect to the parts of the Republican platform that they support, that is not a coalition. You have to face the reality that, eventually, the Republican party is going to have to listen and respond to the desires of Evangelicals--or Evangelicals will have no reason to vote Republican.

The real test is coming up. Will Bush nominate and will the Republican Senators have the guts to confirm only original intenters to the US Supreme Court. My guess is no. At that point the coalition will begin to break apart.

166 posted on 04/03/2005 3:42:11 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: rodguy911

Very true.


167 posted on 04/03/2005 3:46:03 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Shopping for a new tag line.)
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To: Ahban

It is easy to be ideologically pure when your party doesn't win elections. I could claim to have the fastest car in the United States if I never took it out on the track against a bonafide opponent. The Loonytarians and Constipationalists don't win elections and so never have to compromise with anybody. That's why they always claim there is no differnce between the two major parties. That is simply untrue. Demos and Reps are on opposite sides on many issues. Here in KalyFORneeya it is most evident. For the first time in years we are seeing genuine reform in this state, because we elected a Republican (albeit, a moderate) governor. Politics is compromise, when you compromise you have to sacrifice some of your ideals. Absolutists end up with absolutely nothing. I'd rather see at least a portion of the Conservative agenda enacted than see none of it because I play by "all or nothing" rules.


168 posted on 04/03/2005 3:50:50 PM PDT by attiladhun2
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bttt


169 posted on 04/03/2005 3:57:00 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Does my American flag offend you? Dial 1-800-LEAVE THE USA!)
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To: ModelBreaker

Maybe that's how you feel. I am a rock-rib, pro-life, evangleical, Bible-believing Christian. I have been Republican for years and see no reason to change parties. In fact, This party is all together different than it was 30 years ago during the Nixon/Ford era. Reagan changed the party from its dominant pro-business, country club image to one that has not abandoned its pro-business stance but also supports the lives of the unborn.


170 posted on 04/03/2005 4:01:11 PM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: Mark in the Old South
At this point the only thing that will get many of us back is real hard action.

What happened to Terri was evil (just as a whole lot of things that happen are) but it wasn't the fault of a political party but of a culture. The worst thing you can do is give up.

If you are really that upset with the GOP switch to Dem then vote for ultra conservatives in the Dem primaries.

171 posted on 04/03/2005 4:02:16 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: attiladhun2

The goofballs tried to leave the party and wound up following Pat Buchanan. Whiners don't impress me; those who believe in loyalty and are willing to work for the long haul do. Nobody ever said the good fight would be easy.


172 posted on 04/03/2005 4:13:06 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: Tribune7

Never said I was giving up. I said I have left the GOP. Funny how often people make that mistake. There is life after the GOP, always was, always will be.


173 posted on 04/03/2005 4:36:05 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Ain't it the truth. I flirted with the Loonytarians for a while but soon realized they wanted to be irrelevant. That's the only way they could maintain their ideological purity. To actually go out and win elections means you have to appeal to a broader class than those who read Ayn Rand books.
174 posted on 04/03/2005 4:57:39 PM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: Mark in the Old South
At this point the only thing that will get many of us back is real hard action. A judge sitting in prison for 6 months for Contempt of Congress might be a good start.

It is a fine start. I'd like it to be followed by a sentence for obstruction, which is a federal felony charge with up to five years in prison.

175 posted on 04/03/2005 5:29:05 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: ModelBreaker
About half of the coalition that elects republicans are Evangelical Christians. If your thought is that Evangelicals should show up every four years and vote for those parts of the Republican platform that you support and then quietly slink off and shut up with respect to the parts of the Republican platform that they support, that is not a coalition. You have to face the reality that, eventually, the Republican party is going to have to listen and respond to the desires of Evangelicals--or Evangelicals will have no reason to vote Republican.

Change "Evangelicals" to "social conservatives" -- in order to include the ever-increasing number of conservative and conservative-leaning American Jews -- and you'll have it exactly right! :)

176 posted on 04/03/2005 6:34:40 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Mark in the Old South
I said I have left the GOP.

By that do you mean you've changed your registration? stopped contributing? won't vote for Pub candidates?

177 posted on 04/03/2005 8:05:08 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Pokey78

bttt


178 posted on 04/03/2005 9:23:31 PM PDT by lainde
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To: Saundra Duffy
Join the dems. Terri's husband and his backers will be there to welcome you.

I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!! I have already re-registered "Decline to State"

179 posted on 04/03/2005 9:27:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: Tribune7

I will not vote for Pubs. Not till I see the beef, hold the relish and onions. I've had enough.


180 posted on 04/04/2005 5:49:32 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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