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1 posted on 04/02/2005 4:39:18 PM PST by BCrago66
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The NY Times staff lives in Deepest Blue Amerika, where there are absolutely no Christians.


2 posted on 04/02/2005 4:41:15 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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All the news that's fit to make up.


3 posted on 04/02/2005 4:42:25 PM PST by pbear8 (I love you JPII, pray for us)
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Pope John Paul II died this afternoon. The New York Times reports on his papacy in an article that inadvertently tells us more than the Times really wanted us to know. The Times had its criticisms of John Paul's papacy ready to go, but apparently went looking for something good to say about the Pope at the last minute:
Even as his own voice faded away, his views on the sanctity of all human life echoed unambiguously among Catholics and Christian evangelicals in the United States on issues from abortion to the end of life.

need some quote from supporter

John Paul II's admirers were as passionate as his detractors, for whom his long illness served as a symbol for what they said was a decrepit, tradition-bound papacy in need of rejuvenation and a bolder connection with modern life.

"The situation in the Catholic church is serious," Hans Kung, the eminent Swiss theologian, who was barred by from teaching in Catholic schools because of his liberal views, wrote last week. "The pope is gravely ill and deserves every compassion. But the Church has to live. ...

In my opinion, he is not the greatest pope but the most contradictory of the 20th century. A pope of many, great gifts, and of many bad decisions!"

Among liberal Catholics, he was criticized for his strong opposition to abortion, homosexuality and contraception, as well as the ordination of women and married men. Though he was never known as a strong administrator of the dense Vatican bureaucracy, he kept a centralizing hand on the selection of bishops around the world and enforced a rigid adherence to many basic church teachings among the clergy and Catholic theologians.

 

There you have it. The Times' criticisms are ready to go, a few good words for the Pope are an afterthought.

UPDATE: I got a screen grab of the second page of the Times article, just before they changed it to delete the "need some quote from supporter:"


Click on this graphic for a graphic of the actual article

4 posted on 04/02/2005 4:44:17 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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LOL!!! The Old Senile Grey Liberal Lady strikes again!


6 posted on 04/02/2005 4:46:28 PM PST by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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Among liberal Catholics...

Snort. Nice euphemism.

7 posted on 04/02/2005 4:46:48 PM PST by mewzilla
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9 posted on 04/02/2005 4:47:15 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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11 posted on 04/02/2005 4:48:07 PM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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And this is "the paper of record"????


12 posted on 04/02/2005 4:48:32 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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bump.


13 posted on 04/02/2005 4:49:15 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Shopping for a new tag line.)
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That's too funny! The 'Rats at the NYT got caught politicizing the death of the pope!

Rest in peace, Holy Father.

14 posted on 04/02/2005 4:49:18 PM PST by GenXFreedomFighter (We smirked our way back to a second term!)
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-- insert funny quip from freeper --


16 posted on 04/02/2005 4:52:13 PM PST by moroque11 (USA! USA! USA!)
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What a great catch!! I enjoyed sharing it with my family. Thank you.


17 posted on 04/02/2005 4:52:37 PM PST by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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"Liberal Catholics." Isn't that the mob who believes that the Ten Commandments are really only the Ten Suggestions?


19 posted on 04/02/2005 4:53:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer
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Great catch.

It saddens me to know that so many think that God must follow the whims of man, as the Pope should change the church to follow the current desires of the population.

Seems to me that that is what got everyone in trouble back in the Old Testament (many times!). (OK, New Testament, too.)

One would think that the New York Times would have had something prepared, as millions will mourn the death of the Pope. I'm sure they will rectify the glaring error in the article, but a sad statement about the Times (and our society, based on the quotes.)


20 posted on 04/02/2005 4:53:15 PM PST by AnnOutragedCitizen
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Mort Kondrake on Fox News last night was saying that the Catholics should look for a more "liberal" Pope this time because JP11 was too conservative because of the abortion, gay marriage, abstinence issues...

I thought Fred Barnes was gonna jump him...and even Charles Krauthammer and Chris Wallace were surprised that Kondrake would make that suggestion...
They all said that the Pope's conservativeness is what MADE him the respected Pope that he was!


22 posted on 04/02/2005 4:53:38 PM PST by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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Among liberal Catholics, he was criticized for his strong opposition to abortion, homosexuality and contraception, as well as the ordination of women and married men.

The Catholic Church Sens. Flip-Flop and Chappaquiddick go to...

23 posted on 04/02/2005 4:55:13 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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Does Drudge have this?


24 posted on 04/02/2005 4:55:55 PM PST by ladyjane
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John Paul II's admirers were as passionate as his detractors, for whom his long illness served as a symbol for what they said was a decrepit, tradition-bound papacy in need of rejuvenation and a bolder connection with modern life.

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Did you make this up? I can't find it.

30 posted on 04/02/2005 4:59:10 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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Echoing the Mort Kondracke syndrome, mort non catholic hated the this Pope cause he wouldn't ordain the female of the species.
31 posted on 04/02/2005 4:59:15 PM PST by dts32041 (We have instituted our own set of Nuremberg laws.)
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The NYT lack of ebthusiasm for Pope John Paul II is understandable. The Pope and Ronald Reagan destroyed communism! The two of them did more in a short span than all other anti-communists in 70 years were unable to do. Naturally, the NYT resents this. The NYT despises Reagan and is just as unhappy about the Pope. Except, there may still be some Catholics who buy the rag.

What's more, the death of the Pope leaves the NYT in an awkward position. Yhe Pope's death leaves George Bush as the world's leading Christian and foremost Christian leader. The new Pope may take this role, but he will need time to get established. Bush has the moral integrity and stature to, in effect, speak for the world's Christians and the NYTs doesn't like that one bit!

And, of course, the NYT is run by neocommunist scumbag dem liberal progressive crapweasels and they don't like ANYTHING Christian!

36 posted on 04/02/2005 5:03:15 PM PST by Tacis ( SEAL THE FRIGGEN BORDER!!!)
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