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Time to part company
myself | 4/1/05 | hchutch

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by hchutch

Six months ago, Free Republic was riding high, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was coming off having blown the cover off of Dan Rather’s use of forged memos against the President. The President was well on his way to winning re-election. It was a great time to be a Freeper.

However, things have changed. It started with the justifiable removal of ALIPAC. I supported that move by Jim Robinson, but the ugliness directed towards Alberto Gonzales. He was accused of everything under the sun, and Senator Mel Martinez was viciously attacked for speaking Spanish on the Senate floor. The tone and outright viciousness (terms like FROBL and traitor were fired off at anyone who did not toe the line established by Michelle Malkin and Tom Tancredo) on immigration threads had concerned me, but I had concluded it was an isolated incident. After ALIPAC was removed from FR, I had hoped the tone there would improve. But it only got worse. I was point-blank called a traitor because my views on immigration differ from those of Michelle Malkin’s groupies. On immigration threads, questioning the questionable is not allowed. One must accept the unacceptable and allow folks to defend the indefensible. Never mind that VDARE, American Renaissance, and other sites are racist or have no problem hanging out with those that are racists (I’m just going to call a spade a spade here).

There were folks who had the long knives out for Senator Rick Santorum, one of the strongest pro-life members of the United States Senate. Why? Because he endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. It was stunning to see these long knives out for a conservative. And all it would accomplish would be his replacement by a Democrat. How in the world replacing Rick Santorum with a Democrat would aid conservatism is beyond me, but it was demanded because Santorum endorsed Specter. The long knives were out, and I suppose it was a sign of what was to come.

The whole Terri Schiavo case has changed everything for me. A mob mentality took over the first few days after the order to pull the tube was given. Anyone who did not toe the line was attacked. I saw a dedicated active-duty member of our armed forces called a “Maine liberal” for simply asking why troops in harm’s way did not get the same sort of “all-nighter” attention that Terri Schiavo got. It was a reasonable question – we have 40-year-old P-3s still out there. We have a war on terrorism still going on, in case folks have not noticed. We have to get Social Security fixed. I say this as a person who believes that at best, Michael Schiavo’s relationship with a woman (and having two kids with her) meant he had a conflict of interest – and that he had decided that Terri was inconvenient. I cannot take his word alone that Terri would have wanted this. I also believe that George Felos is a supporter of euthanasia, and that he is using this case for his own ends. Those folks give me the creeps, and I think that Jim Robinson was on the right side of this issue. However, I also got a very bad feeling when the Schindlers embraced the likes of Randall Terry and Bo Gritz. I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control.

I have seen the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and the Governor of Florida, John Ellis Bush, take huge political risks in an effort to save Terri’s life. I believe they were doing their best to do the right thing, and that the original law passed in 2003 was a reasonable one that was wrongly stuck down by Judge Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. I think that the Republican Party has taken a huge risk to give Terri a chance at life, and I am disgusted with those who seek a pretext that will justify leaving the GOP in the lurch. I’m sick of the way the Terri threads spun out of control, and the vicious attacks launched at reasonable people who came to a different conclusions about the situation or who pointed out facts that certain people found inconvenient. This is not what I signed on here for.

I believe in a strong national defense, cutting taxes, and in general trying to keep government involvement as minimal as possible (there are times when the best one can do is to limit government involvement in a situation). I am pro-life (with exceptions for rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother) and pro-Second Amendment. However, I do NOT want the federal government to be involved in any culture war. “Culture” was never mentioned in the constitution, thus I believe it is left to the States or TO THE PEOPLE (see the Tenth Amendment). I do NOT think immigration is a problem, but I believe some mistakes were made along the way (like eliminating the bracero program). I also think that the President of the United States has proposed a sensible plan that will go a long way towards solving the problems on our border with Mexico and do much to alleviate the problems surrounding illegal immigration. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me and Free Republic to part company, because Free Republic has left this limited-government neoconservative. In the process of Free Republic leaving me, I now find that I fear the social conservatives as much as I fear the loony left. As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

I do this with regret, since I will miss some of those who I have met here, but I feel no other choice. So long.


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To: Hoodlum91

The mood in the COUNTRY has taken a turn for the worse, Hood. Don't expect it to be different here. The specter of the... nazi (dammit I can't think of a better word) is looming over us and you people that think it's not had better think again and look around you. Try talking to a liberal, if you haven't in a while, and you will see, you will see.


161 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:47 PM PST by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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To: silent_jonny
Yeah, I cheaped-out on the chips, sorry. Here's a better one :)

Thanks, I feel much better now. ;-) BTW, how do you post a picture?

162 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:51 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Tempest
This has become the right's version of the DU.

Only certain topics and certain people. In general, the site's just fine, IMHO.

163 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:51 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle
My family actually had a few anthologies that were put together after Breathed had initially retired.

In fact, we may still have one floating around the house, now that I think it about it.

It's interesting to examine the natural progression, from Bloom County to Outland.

Kind of like watching the elevation of neolithic cave art.

:0)

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

164 posted on 04/01/2005 3:18:17 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Kill For Peace.")
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To: hchutch

So you've discovered we have our own moonbats in the GOP. Guess what? They're not as influental as they (or you) think they are. Stick around, ping me if you need back up. There are more battles to fight.

Semper Fi
Fen


165 posted on 04/01/2005 3:18:30 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: All
Some of you need to get a grip.




166 posted on 04/01/2005 3:18:39 PM PST by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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To: TXBubba

The Original UT maxed out at over 65,000 posts. It was a wild ride!


167 posted on 04/01/2005 3:18:57 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: hchutch

Dude, I don't know you, but it sure sounds like you're cutting and running. Yes politics is a rough game; yes, not everyone agrees with you; yes, sometimes people say overheated things.

Other than that, what's your point?

Oops, sorry, you've already run.


168 posted on 04/01/2005 3:18:58 PM PST by Owl558 (Please excuse my spelling)
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To: hchutch

april fools?


169 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:05 PM PST by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: Tempest

Cool, got an opus ready?


170 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:08 PM PST by k2blader (The state sanctioned murder of Terri Shiavo happened on the Republicans' watch.)
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To: american spirit

All I want is a level playing field. These illegals get special treatment and don't have to play by the rules.


171 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:08 PM PST by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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To: hchutch

If this isn't an April 1st gag, what did you sign on here for?


172 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:34 PM PST by Shisan (The sins ye do by two and two , ye pay for one by one.)
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To: hchutch
Wel, I am sorry to see you leave. As I have told you before, this site gets hit with waves of nuttiness from time to time...going all the way back to the 2000 Republican primaries.

My personal decision is to go find something productive to do. A few people may have noticed that I haven't posted as much lately. I don't care for the shrillness and insults, either. I think it will give fodder to those who call us extremists for a very long time.

However, I have never found another site which gets as much discussion and information up in such a quick way. I also know that this site is read by the media (which is why I find the venom about the Terri Schiavo case, from BOTH sides, so discouraging).

I choose to stay and post my opinions when I think I can contribute.

hchutch, I hate to see you leave. I learned so much about younger people's ideas on culture and self-sufficiency from reading your posts. You were a good Freeper. Go with God.

173 posted on 04/01/2005 3:19:39 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: johnb838

You are right about the modern-day Nazis.

The fewer of them around here, the better.


174 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:04 PM PST by k2blader (The state sanctioned murder of Terri Shiavo happened on the Republicans' watch.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Not only that, but if more Conservatives leave the Republican party, that will give the DEMS/LIBS are free ride to elections, and may give Hillary a free pass to the White House.

Then maybe, just maybe, said Republicans should think long and hard about that before they open their mouths or cast their votes.

175 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:07 PM PST by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: Tempest

Really? Seriously, I think FR has mellowed out since the end of the election. There was a time when you'd get banned for saying anything, and I my ANYTHING negative about President Bush. It seemed more okay to offer constructive criticism now.


176 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:14 PM PST by RepublicMan4U
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To: hchutch
hchutch,
I can understand your disillusionment, but, the more severe and intense battles against the left/libs/Dems are ahead for us and for the Conservatives, all of us need to unite more than ever.
The Bible says that in order for GOD to make us strong and to endure, he must put us through trials.
Iron workers use the refiners fire to get all the dross out and to " TEMPER " the steel.
GOD uses our trials to get out the dross and to " TEMPER " us ( gives us the character of patience ) , to strengthen us.
God uses trials ( Refiners Fire ) to purge us, to refine us like GOLD.
Proverbs 27:17 " As iron sharpens Iron, so one man sharpens another " .
I hope that you will be ok, take care.
177 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:16 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: RepublicMan4U; Admin Moderator
Okay, you've brought up the topic, so I'll reply to you. However, this is to anyone. Is there any way to change your screen name without having to start over in seniority? I think my name is kind of dumb. When I first signed up, I was sort of apolitical and just picked the most conservative sounding name I could think of so you would let me in. Now that I'm a full convert, I'd like to pick something more meaningful. :)

I've seen it done. Any thoughts?

178 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:29 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: hchutch

Put some ice on it and learn how to roll with the punches.


179 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:40 PM PST by embedded_rebel
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To: wyattearp

You don't get it either. We aren't name calling, we are making statements that are literally true. WAKE UP!


180 posted on 04/01/2005 3:20:41 PM PST by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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