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Time to part company
myself | 4/1/05 | hchutch

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by hchutch

Six months ago, Free Republic was riding high, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was coming off having blown the cover off of Dan Rather’s use of forged memos against the President. The President was well on his way to winning re-election. It was a great time to be a Freeper.

However, things have changed. It started with the justifiable removal of ALIPAC. I supported that move by Jim Robinson, but the ugliness directed towards Alberto Gonzales. He was accused of everything under the sun, and Senator Mel Martinez was viciously attacked for speaking Spanish on the Senate floor. The tone and outright viciousness (terms like FROBL and traitor were fired off at anyone who did not toe the line established by Michelle Malkin and Tom Tancredo) on immigration threads had concerned me, but I had concluded it was an isolated incident. After ALIPAC was removed from FR, I had hoped the tone there would improve. But it only got worse. I was point-blank called a traitor because my views on immigration differ from those of Michelle Malkin’s groupies. On immigration threads, questioning the questionable is not allowed. One must accept the unacceptable and allow folks to defend the indefensible. Never mind that VDARE, American Renaissance, and other sites are racist or have no problem hanging out with those that are racists (I’m just going to call a spade a spade here).

There were folks who had the long knives out for Senator Rick Santorum, one of the strongest pro-life members of the United States Senate. Why? Because he endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. It was stunning to see these long knives out for a conservative. And all it would accomplish would be his replacement by a Democrat. How in the world replacing Rick Santorum with a Democrat would aid conservatism is beyond me, but it was demanded because Santorum endorsed Specter. The long knives were out, and I suppose it was a sign of what was to come.

The whole Terri Schiavo case has changed everything for me. A mob mentality took over the first few days after the order to pull the tube was given. Anyone who did not toe the line was attacked. I saw a dedicated active-duty member of our armed forces called a “Maine liberal” for simply asking why troops in harm’s way did not get the same sort of “all-nighter” attention that Terri Schiavo got. It was a reasonable question – we have 40-year-old P-3s still out there. We have a war on terrorism still going on, in case folks have not noticed. We have to get Social Security fixed. I say this as a person who believes that at best, Michael Schiavo’s relationship with a woman (and having two kids with her) meant he had a conflict of interest – and that he had decided that Terri was inconvenient. I cannot take his word alone that Terri would have wanted this. I also believe that George Felos is a supporter of euthanasia, and that he is using this case for his own ends. Those folks give me the creeps, and I think that Jim Robinson was on the right side of this issue. However, I also got a very bad feeling when the Schindlers embraced the likes of Randall Terry and Bo Gritz. I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control.

I have seen the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and the Governor of Florida, John Ellis Bush, take huge political risks in an effort to save Terri’s life. I believe they were doing their best to do the right thing, and that the original law passed in 2003 was a reasonable one that was wrongly stuck down by Judge Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. I think that the Republican Party has taken a huge risk to give Terri a chance at life, and I am disgusted with those who seek a pretext that will justify leaving the GOP in the lurch. I’m sick of the way the Terri threads spun out of control, and the vicious attacks launched at reasonable people who came to a different conclusions about the situation or who pointed out facts that certain people found inconvenient. This is not what I signed on here for.

I believe in a strong national defense, cutting taxes, and in general trying to keep government involvement as minimal as possible (there are times when the best one can do is to limit government involvement in a situation). I am pro-life (with exceptions for rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother) and pro-Second Amendment. However, I do NOT want the federal government to be involved in any culture war. “Culture” was never mentioned in the constitution, thus I believe it is left to the States or TO THE PEOPLE (see the Tenth Amendment). I do NOT think immigration is a problem, but I believe some mistakes were made along the way (like eliminating the bracero program). I also think that the President of the United States has proposed a sensible plan that will go a long way towards solving the problems on our border with Mexico and do much to alleviate the problems surrounding illegal immigration. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me and Free Republic to part company, because Free Republic has left this limited-government neoconservative. In the process of Free Republic leaving me, I now find that I fear the social conservatives as much as I fear the loony left. As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

I do this with regret, since I will miss some of those who I have met here, but I feel no other choice. So long.


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To: sinkspur

If it walks like a goose and quacks like a goose, I'm calling it a goose, spur.


141 posted on 04/01/2005 3:13:26 PM PST by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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To: johnb838

And here we have a prime example of exactly what this forum has turned into.

Thanks, johnb838, for providing the aforementioned example.


142 posted on 04/01/2005 3:13:35 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: johnb838
Get out of here! Who needs you? This forum is not for the faint hearted.

Nor is it for the civil, apparently.

143 posted on 04/01/2005 3:13:39 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: rdb3

ROTFLMAO


144 posted on 04/01/2005 3:14:09 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: hchutch

Sad to see any FReeper leave the board. With all best wishes to you.


145 posted on 04/01/2005 3:14:21 PM PST by RushCrush (Ideas are like children: there are none so wonderful as your own.)
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To: wyattearp
What?! Only four chocolate chips?

Yeah, I cheaped-out on the chips, sorry. Here's a better one :)

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146 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:14 PM PST by silent_jonny
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To: johnb838
If it walks like a goose and quacks like a goose

Geese don't quack. They honk. Just an observation.

147 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:37 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: All

"The Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition"
(2 Tim. 2:24-25).


148 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:40 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Okay, you've brought up the topic, so I'll reply to you. However, this is to anyone. Is there any way to change your screen name without having to start over in seniority? I think my name is kind of dumb. When I first signed up, I was sort of apolitical and just picked the most conservative sounding name I could think of so you would let me in. Now that I'm a full convert, I'd like to pick something more meaningful. :)


149 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:41 PM PST by RepublicMan4U
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To: hchutch
Adios muchacho, sorry you don't believe there is an immigration problem, maybe you should do some traveling and take a closer look at it in action.....some people have been around it and experienced it for decades and know of what they speak...
150 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:50 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: wyattearp
I might believe seven weeks. I might even believe seven months. I don't believe seven years.

We're talkin' retread, imo.

151 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:55 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: teenyelliott
Don't leave. I think most are on your side. But many have chosen to stay silent lately, to avoid all the nastiness. Try the smoky backroom!!

You're right, teenyelliott. I'm one of those who doesn't try to argue with madness and I stay away from the volatile threads. I've noticed that even the Smoky Backroom's sanity thread suffers from an infestation. I'm confident, however, that FR will soon regain its equilibrium and the negative atmosphere will clear.

152 posted on 04/01/2005 3:15:58 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: rdb3; hchutch
"FReepin' is a full contact sport."

You said it Buddy. It was even headier back in '97-'98 as I recall. I remember reading a few of my own comments from the night before and wondering what grabbed me at the time!

Just like family here, emotions can get the better of us at times. I couldn't live without FReerepublic.

Nam Vet

153 posted on 04/01/2005 3:16:06 PM PST by Nam Vet (MSM reporters think the MOIST dream they had the night before is a "reliable source".)
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To: SandyInSeattle

WOW! I don't think I've ever seen an 18,000+ post thread! And I've been here awhile.


154 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:02 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: hchutch

I'm going tot say something that get alot of people's panties all bunched up. Sean Hannity was right! This site has been taken over predominately by nutty extremist. This has become the right's version of the DU.


155 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:03 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: wyattearp

156 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:04 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: hchutch

Can't say I'm displeased.


157 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:09 PM PST by k2blader (The state sanctioned murder of Terri Shiavo happened on the Republicans' watch.)
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To: sinkspur
Call other social conservatives "Nazis" on Free Republic.

Don't forget "Deathocrat". That's another popular epithet.

159 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:41 PM PST by .38sw
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To: johnb838

Despite what some others are saying, I think your response is the most appropriate one for this kind of internet farewell opus. It's certainly more appropriate than any of the "please don't go" posts.


160 posted on 04/01/2005 3:17:46 PM PST by Junior_G
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