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WHY THE TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO CASE MATTERS
Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc. ^ | 03/29/05 | Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc.

Posted on 03/29/2005 7:15:01 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama

WHY THE TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO CASE MATTERS

JPFO does not take an official position on issues such as the "right to die" or when it might be ethical to disconnect a brain-dead person from artificial life-support.

But JPFO does care deeply about how governments use power against defenseless innocent people. The genesis of JPFO came with the observation that the Nazis rendered the Jews and others powerless by enforcing "gun control" laws. Our first book, "Gun Control": Gateway to Tyranny, was the first major work to prove the connection between German victim disarmament laws and the destruction of 12 million victims in concentration camps. Our documentary film, Innocents Betrayed, proves the same kind of genocide formula applied to seven other major genocides and countless other horrors. How governments treat defenseless people is among our top concerns.

A New “Justification” To Kill

In the Terri Schindler Schiavo case, the courts accepted her husband's claim that Terri told him (before her severely disabling injury) that she never wanted to be kept alive in a severely brain damaged state. Decades later, the courts held that Terri's wishes, as expressed by her husband, must be carried out by starving and dehydrating her to death.

The evidence we have heard indicates that Terri is not brain dead. She is not totally unconscious; according to eyewitnesses, she does respond to human stimuli. She is not connected to life support machines. She has been in otherwise good health and has been successfully sustained via feeding tube for over 14 years.

What has happened in the Florida and federal courts signals a major shift in how Americans will permit governments to kill people. Make no mistake: by forcibly prohibiting Terri's parents from feeding and caring for her, the government is killing Terri just as surely as if government agents blocked a mother from feeding her baby.

The justification given for killing Terri is that her husband testified, many years after the fact, that it was Terri's wish to die. Terri is powerless to contradict her husband or to express a new wish. His oral testimony about her statement was enough now for the courts to order her death.

Notice further: the courts have decided to not to give Terri's life the benefit of the doubt. A written "living will" or "advance directive," signed by Terri, could be conclusive proof of her wishes. Here the courts are going by the recollection of an oral statement many years ago. That recollection could be wrong, it could be fabricated, it could be confused, it could be out of context. All of these "could be's" are valid reasons to raise doubt.

At the same time, Terri's parents are willing to feed Terri and keep her alive in their care indefinitely. Although currently the costs of Terri’s care are borne by the government (taxpayers) via Medicaid, there are numerous individuals and groups who have stated they would donate the money needed for Terri.

So, we have a defenseless innocent person being killed by government order because her husband says she said she wanted to be killed, even though there are people who are willing to keep her alive at their own expense. The government is giving the benefit of the doubt to killing, not to saving a life.

Not A Question of Liberty

Unlike the abortion issue in which some people argue that the unborn child "is not a person," the issue in Terri's case involves most certainly a "person." Thus, the government's decision to kill Terri moves the discretionary power out of the area of "privacy" and into the light of public scrutiny.

We do not see Terri's case as involving the exercise of her right to refuse artificial life support, because she did not take the steps to make clear that she wanted to exercise that right. We are profoundly concerned that courts (and apparently many Americans) consider it acceptable to kill a defenseless disabled person on the say-so of a spouse given many years after the disability occurs.

Religious Tradition Values Innocent Life

Even before the Ten Commandments were declared, there was the unambiguous law against unjustly killing fellow human beings. In the book of Genesis, in the sacred Torah for Jews (and part of the Old Testament for Christians), it states: “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of G-d has G-d made man.” (9:6, NIV).

The book of Deuteronomy, also a sacred Torah book, transmits the clear message: “This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.” (30:19, NIV). Deciding to starve Terri to death means to choose and inflict death, and not the death of oneself, but the death of an innocent other person.


Starvation Is A War Crime

We recall that Nazi doctrines authorized the killing of disabled people to purify the race and because the victims lacked a good "quality of life." Killing innocent people because others say those people lack a good "quality of life" is unacceptable, and no government in America should be allowed to make such a decision. Moreover, starving people is a war crime under the Geneva Convention and is considered barbaric torture by human rights organizations worldwide.

Large numbers of prisoners were systematically starved to death in the concentration camps under Nazi and Imperial Japanese control during World War II. Nobody called those starvation deaths “humane.” It astounds us that courts in America could order a starvation death of an innocent disabled person.

Doubts Should Favor Preserving Life

When there is a doubt about a question of saving a life, the benefit of the doubt should weigh in favor of volunteers willing to preserve a person's life -- not in favor of the very late testimony of someone who wants a person dead.

Several American courts have nevertheless now ruled that positively killing a conscious disabled person, who was convicted of no crime, is authorized under law and must be carried out. There is no way to spin this outcome as a victory for personal liberty or the rule of law. It's a government killing of an innocent, taking place in clear view of the world. We at JPFO oppose the killing of Terri Schindler Schiavo.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: clintonappointed; clintonjudges; jpfo; neverforget; stophillary; terrischiavo
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To: ikka

Post the exception. There are many lawyers on FR who can refute you.


21 posted on 03/29/2005 7:48:01 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: underwiredsupport

BTW...Henry Bowman ping....boy do we need you now!


22 posted on 03/29/2005 7:48:42 PM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: thoughtomator

I'm not trying to insult you. But would ask that you don't go off on the WPPFF.


23 posted on 03/29/2005 7:49:34 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: PhatHead

Anguishing, isn't it? And inexplicable that it proceeds.. :(


24 posted on 03/29/2005 7:50:55 PM PST by Libertina (Praise to You Lord, God of mercy and grace!)
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To: TAdams8591; TXBubba

You're welcome


25 posted on 03/29/2005 7:51:01 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: annyokie
When The Coven WPPFF stops going off on everyone else, then that will be a reasonable request. But considering they started off by defining those that don't agree with them as insane, they shouldn't be surprised at all when others push back, and haven't a whit of justification for complaint.
26 posted on 03/29/2005 7:53:38 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: exDemMom
It's a documentary and it's available in the 2asisters Store
27 posted on 03/29/2005 7:54:16 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: annyokie
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
28 posted on 03/29/2005 7:55:41 PM PST by jpsb
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To: 2nd amendment mama
I was fighting the question to ask on this forum, but it was answered by this and a posting from a Rabbi. More than anyone else, one would think that those of the Jewish persuasion would be very sensitve to the Shiavo issue.

Thank God they are speaking out on this.

29 posted on 03/29/2005 7:58:17 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: thoughtomator

Stop it. You have not been characterized as insane just misguided. Re-read long cut's mission statement.

Crafting new law for a single case is foolish and you know it. Step back and think.

The it's-all-about-Terri crowd are setting back the RTL cause and the re-election of the GOP in 2006 and on for decades.

Get past a single issue and look at the long view. Terri has been adjudicated and like it or not, she is going to die. And, no I don't like it anymore than I like the death threats toward my children by the "Christians" on this forum.


30 posted on 03/29/2005 8:01:47 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: annyokie
Stop it. You have not been characterized as insane just misguided. Re-read long cut's mission statement.

You mean the mission statement for the "Coalition of the Sane"?

I was born during the day, but it wasn't yesterday.

31 posted on 03/29/2005 8:03:12 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: thoughtomator

More belligerence.


32 posted on 03/29/2005 8:05:04 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: annyokie

Get a grip lady. There is no such thing s "judicial law" -

"Da Judges" do not make law...although lately they behave as if they do and they are getting away with it.


33 posted on 03/29/2005 8:11:01 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

Sure they don't. That's why we have Roe v. Wade, et al. And don't post to me anymore.


34 posted on 03/29/2005 8:14:55 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: annyokie

More name-calling.

(your turn)


35 posted on 03/29/2005 8:17:39 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: annyokie

You sure come up with some dumb zingers.

Once more, judges interpret laws and rule on cases brought before them; there is no such thing as "judicial law" -


36 posted on 03/29/2005 8:18:36 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Big huge BTTT


37 posted on 03/29/2005 8:19:04 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Great post and article.

Our leaders know what this is really about and they are letting it happen because it is covenant and cost effective.

They know that they can do their usual thing and say we tried it's them bad old judges.

Oh they'll make their great speeches and maybe even pass another useless law that the next two-bit dictator on the bench will throw into the trash can if it gets in his way.

Then it'll be business as usual back to dividing our money among themselves and their friends.

38 posted on 03/29/2005 8:19:50 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: eleni121

Sometimes I think people post to me just to set up my witty retorts.


39 posted on 03/29/2005 8:25:41 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: annyokie

Based on what I've seen the GOP and the Bush brothers do so far,(nothing) I'm not so sure they deserve to be re-elected.


40 posted on 03/29/2005 8:26:01 PM PST by westmichman (Pray for global warming. Friend of Ronnie -(stolen from The Patriot))
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