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WHY THE TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO CASE MATTERS
Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc. ^ | 03/29/05 | Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc.

Posted on 03/29/2005 7:15:01 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama

WHY THE TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO CASE MATTERS

JPFO does not take an official position on issues such as the "right to die" or when it might be ethical to disconnect a brain-dead person from artificial life-support.

But JPFO does care deeply about how governments use power against defenseless innocent people. The genesis of JPFO came with the observation that the Nazis rendered the Jews and others powerless by enforcing "gun control" laws. Our first book, "Gun Control": Gateway to Tyranny, was the first major work to prove the connection between German victim disarmament laws and the destruction of 12 million victims in concentration camps. Our documentary film, Innocents Betrayed, proves the same kind of genocide formula applied to seven other major genocides and countless other horrors. How governments treat defenseless people is among our top concerns.

A New “Justification” To Kill

In the Terri Schindler Schiavo case, the courts accepted her husband's claim that Terri told him (before her severely disabling injury) that she never wanted to be kept alive in a severely brain damaged state. Decades later, the courts held that Terri's wishes, as expressed by her husband, must be carried out by starving and dehydrating her to death.

The evidence we have heard indicates that Terri is not brain dead. She is not totally unconscious; according to eyewitnesses, she does respond to human stimuli. She is not connected to life support machines. She has been in otherwise good health and has been successfully sustained via feeding tube for over 14 years.

What has happened in the Florida and federal courts signals a major shift in how Americans will permit governments to kill people. Make no mistake: by forcibly prohibiting Terri's parents from feeding and caring for her, the government is killing Terri just as surely as if government agents blocked a mother from feeding her baby.

The justification given for killing Terri is that her husband testified, many years after the fact, that it was Terri's wish to die. Terri is powerless to contradict her husband or to express a new wish. His oral testimony about her statement was enough now for the courts to order her death.

Notice further: the courts have decided to not to give Terri's life the benefit of the doubt. A written "living will" or "advance directive," signed by Terri, could be conclusive proof of her wishes. Here the courts are going by the recollection of an oral statement many years ago. That recollection could be wrong, it could be fabricated, it could be confused, it could be out of context. All of these "could be's" are valid reasons to raise doubt.

At the same time, Terri's parents are willing to feed Terri and keep her alive in their care indefinitely. Although currently the costs of Terri’s care are borne by the government (taxpayers) via Medicaid, there are numerous individuals and groups who have stated they would donate the money needed for Terri.

So, we have a defenseless innocent person being killed by government order because her husband says she said she wanted to be killed, even though there are people who are willing to keep her alive at their own expense. The government is giving the benefit of the doubt to killing, not to saving a life.

Not A Question of Liberty

Unlike the abortion issue in which some people argue that the unborn child "is not a person," the issue in Terri's case involves most certainly a "person." Thus, the government's decision to kill Terri moves the discretionary power out of the area of "privacy" and into the light of public scrutiny.

We do not see Terri's case as involving the exercise of her right to refuse artificial life support, because she did not take the steps to make clear that she wanted to exercise that right. We are profoundly concerned that courts (and apparently many Americans) consider it acceptable to kill a defenseless disabled person on the say-so of a spouse given many years after the disability occurs.

Religious Tradition Values Innocent Life

Even before the Ten Commandments were declared, there was the unambiguous law against unjustly killing fellow human beings. In the book of Genesis, in the sacred Torah for Jews (and part of the Old Testament for Christians), it states: “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of G-d has G-d made man.” (9:6, NIV).

The book of Deuteronomy, also a sacred Torah book, transmits the clear message: “This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.” (30:19, NIV). Deciding to starve Terri to death means to choose and inflict death, and not the death of oneself, but the death of an innocent other person.


Starvation Is A War Crime

We recall that Nazi doctrines authorized the killing of disabled people to purify the race and because the victims lacked a good "quality of life." Killing innocent people because others say those people lack a good "quality of life" is unacceptable, and no government in America should be allowed to make such a decision. Moreover, starving people is a war crime under the Geneva Convention and is considered barbaric torture by human rights organizations worldwide.

Large numbers of prisoners were systematically starved to death in the concentration camps under Nazi and Imperial Japanese control during World War II. Nobody called those starvation deaths “humane.” It astounds us that courts in America could order a starvation death of an innocent disabled person.

Doubts Should Favor Preserving Life

When there is a doubt about a question of saving a life, the benefit of the doubt should weigh in favor of volunteers willing to preserve a person's life -- not in favor of the very late testimony of someone who wants a person dead.

Several American courts have nevertheless now ruled that positively killing a conscious disabled person, who was convicted of no crime, is authorized under law and must be carried out. There is no way to spin this outcome as a victory for personal liberty or the rule of law. It's a government killing of an innocent, taking place in clear view of the world. We at JPFO oppose the killing of Terri Schindler Schiavo.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: clintonappointed; clintonjudges; jpfo; neverforget; stophillary; terrischiavo
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Everyone should see "Innocents Betrayed". It will really open your eyes.
1 posted on 03/29/2005 7:15:01 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: basil; dbwz

Ping


2 posted on 03/29/2005 7:15:26 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
I've been being berated all day by "The Coalition of the Sane" for making this same exact analogy... and ironically enough I put up a post on my blog with a very similar title, last week.
3 posted on 03/29/2005 7:21:28 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Thanks for the post.


4 posted on 03/29/2005 7:22:22 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Fitzcarraldo's First Law:

They who champion "the right to die", will encourage you to pursue that right.

5 posted on 03/29/2005 7:25:21 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: thoughtomator
You have been belligerent while advocating the overthrow of judicial and constitutional law all day along with being a wise guy.
6 posted on 03/29/2005 7:26:08 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Thanks for the post. JPFO is, IMHO, one of the best 2A organizations around. This does pertain to the Second Amendment in that it is a reminder that we must always keep a careful eye on our government.


7 posted on 03/29/2005 7:27:24 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: annyokie
I have been belligerent in advocating the restoration of checks and balances in our government and the upholding of the inalienable rights of American citizens. If I advocate the overthrow of anything, it is the overthrow of the usurpation of both legislative and executive power by a runaway judiciary.

On the wise guy charge... I plead guilty, your Honor.

8 posted on 03/29/2005 7:29:30 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
"There is no way to spin this outcome as a victory for personal liberty or the rule of law. It's a government killing of an innocent
9 posted on 03/29/2005 7:31:10 PM PST by jpsb
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To: annyokie
I don't know the full context of what you are arguing, but there is no such thing as "judicial law" .

And plainly the Constitution has not been followed in this case - the Congress ordered the court to proceed with a trial de novo, which they are specifically granted power by the Constitution to do so, and the judges of the Federal Courts refused.

10 posted on 03/29/2005 7:31:50 PM PST by ikka
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"advocating the overthrow of judicial and constitutional law"

You know nothing of constitutional law, did you know it is constitutional for the people to march to DC and hang everyone there?

11 posted on 03/29/2005 7:34:41 PM PST by jpsb
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Good post!


12 posted on 03/29/2005 7:34:59 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Here is a thought that I hope will be considered even by those who agree that Jeb and W have done all that they could within the law.

Michael Schiavo last week invited both the President and the Governor to visit his wife. I think they should go.

And bring her water.

Some argue that the Governor would be dangerously disrupting the balance of powers between the branches of government if he took executive action. Arresting him for bringing water would be such a breech as well, but it would be by those serving the court.

Fifty have already been arrested trying to bring Terri water. Go, Mr President. Go, Governor. Bring her water.


13 posted on 03/29/2005 7:35:23 PM PST by PhatHead (My Living Will : Please Do Not Kill Me.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
"Moreover, starving people is a war crime under the
Geneva Convention and is considered barbaric torture by
human rights organizations worldwide."

Perhaps, American Citizens, especially the disabled, the aged, the infirm, the defenseless ought to sign on to the Geneve Convention.

14 posted on 03/29/2005 7:38:43 PM PST by harpo11 ( Terri's our Sister, She Ain't Heavy!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
If somebody was doing to a sick pet, what they are doing to Terri right now, PETA would be on the warpath.

This whole thing scares me. ...and not much scares me. It doesn't scare me because I fear happening to me what's happening to her. It scares me because I fear that too few people acted too late, and now she will perish and judgement from God will fall on this nation.
15 posted on 03/29/2005 7:39:13 PM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Everyone should see "Innocents Betrayed".

Movie? Documentary? Is it available at Amazon.com?

16 posted on 03/29/2005 7:43:27 PM PST by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Hell just watch "Judgment at Nuremberg" ...

Plot Summary:

It has been three years since the most important Nazi leaders had already been tried. This trial is about 4 Judges who used their offices to conduct Nazi sterilization and cleansing policies. Retired American Judge, Judge Dan Haywood has a daunting task ahead of him. The Cold War is heating up and no one wants any more trials as Germany, and allied Governments, want to forget the past. But is that the right thing to do is the question that the tribunal must decide.

17 posted on 03/29/2005 7:45:09 PM PST by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me)
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To: exDemMom

Innocents Betrayed is for sale both on the SAS website and the JPFO website. It is very well done, and I wish every person in this country could see it.


18 posted on 03/29/2005 7:45:38 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; MizSterious; All

BUMP


19 posted on 03/29/2005 7:47:32 PM PST by underwiredsupport (...for the shape of things to come!)
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To: exDemMom

OH--I forgot to mention, it is a documentary, available in VHS, CD and DVD.


20 posted on 03/29/2005 7:47:47 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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