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News about efforts to stop meth production by taking away access to cold medicine. Worth a look.
1 posted on 03/28/2005 11:44:29 AM PST by weekendwarrior
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I cannot live without my Claritan-D. I wonder what the threshold will be before I am flagged as "maybe guilty".


2 posted on 03/28/2005 11:46:29 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Yep. The government needs to make life harder for the vast majority who are innocent people in order to catch the guilty few. Its a great principle for demagogues and the power-hungry to curb the liberties of a nation while maximizing their own power.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
3 posted on 03/28/2005 11:48:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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More uneeded nannyism by government..


4 posted on 03/28/2005 11:48:25 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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Yeah, I hear knives and guns are used in a ton of murders. Let's ban them, too. Same basic concept.


5 posted on 03/28/2005 11:48:31 AM PST by mysterio
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Recipes are easy to find, and ingredients include common household items such as camping fuel, drain cleaner, and pseudophedrine (PSE),

And I used to stick that crap in my arm. Geeeesh.

6 posted on 03/28/2005 11:48:48 AM PST by Skooz (Host organism for the State parasite)
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Camping fuel and DRAIN cleaner!!!

How hard up do you have to be to ingest that stuff.


7 posted on 03/28/2005 11:49:29 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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Why don't we outlaw Red Devil drain cleaner?


9 posted on 03/28/2005 11:51:00 AM PST by jdege
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Some of the local drugstores already have cold medicines with pseudephedrine in little locked cases on the shelves with the other stuff. I believe the state law is that a person can't buy more than three packages of these products in one place. Of course, that doesn't keep those stocking up for the meth labs from going from the Walgreens' to the CVS to Wal-Mart, etc. and get all they need.

There does need to be massive education about the dangers of meth use. "Idiot" doesn't even begin to describe someone who would start using this. If a person wants a long, misarable suicide, then they should start using meth.

Oh, and how about busting those Mexican gang-run "superlabs" that make 80% of the meth?


13 posted on 03/28/2005 11:56:10 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican
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But . . but . . but if only one life could be saved . .
. . wouldn't it be worth it?
14 posted on 03/28/2005 11:56:14 AM PST by logician2u
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Last summer Schering-Plough took Chlor-Trimeton 12-hour off the market (the jerks). There was no announcement, I just couldn't find it. Great anti-histamine, worked far better for me than the "advanced" Claritin type stuff. So I drove around to various drug stores buying up the stuff so at least I'd have enough to last through the first killing frost.

At one place they had two 10-packs and two 24-packs, so I picked up all four. They said I could only buy two packages, not four, that was the new regulation. I said "so I could buy two 24-packs, but not two 10-packs and a 24-pack, even though 48 is more than 44?" "Yes, that's our rules. We are trying to combat the meth labs." Given that I was in a suit and wasn't wearing a mullet and didn't have hollow sunken eyes, I was a bit nonplussed.

So I bought the two 24-packs and came back the next day and bought the other two. I can only imagine what a hassle it will be when they make one sign their name each and every time one buys a pack of antihistamines. Geez.


19 posted on 03/28/2005 12:00:10 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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As an occassional Sudafed user in a Methamphetamine aflicted State (ND), I recommend taking pseudoephedrine off the market.

I can suffer a few sniffles if it saves a few thousand lives.


23 posted on 03/28/2005 12:03:05 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Impotent [birthrates] Lazy [unemployment %] Cowardly [Militarily Unprepared] Euroweenies!)
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News about efforts to stop meth production by taking away access to cold medicine. Worth a look.

Oh, pul-eeze!

Yeah, everybody, let's have access to OTC medicines rigidly regulated for all Americans, even though...

Approximately 80% of meth is produced by "super-labs" predominantly in California and along southern border states. Many are operated by Mexican criminal gangs whose extensive trafficking network supplies super-labs with ingredients needed to "cook" the meth.

Instead of just closing the frickin' BORDERS and save billions of dollars to boot!

26 posted on 03/28/2005 12:05:31 PM PST by MamaTexan (I LOVE my country, but by I really DETEST my government!!)
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I know I work in a drugstore photolab, sometimes I have to ring up regular customers and I have to card them to see if they are over 18 to buy cold products plus there are limits to how much you can buy. I'm the biggest proponent of busting meth labs or any illegal drug production and tossing the bad guys in jail but this is way too far.


32 posted on 03/28/2005 12:14:57 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I hope you enjoyed your dinner, Terri Schiavo can't. B-()
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They are talking about Sudefed. The little red sinus pills? I have used them for years. They are excellent for me.

I can't help it if some criminal drug users are using this to make their dope! Why can't law enforcement find and close down the meth clinics instead of making us suffer?

One idea was to closely look at anyone buying Sudefed. Good grief!

37 posted on 03/28/2005 12:20:42 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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Interesting. This is an excerpt of what was in yesterdays Dallas Morning News.

ATHENS, Texas; Meth horror stories are all too easy to find in Henderson County.

At the hospital, emergency room doctor Dan Bywaters is haunted by the abandoned toddler who vomited uncontrollably after eating methamphetamine.

At the jail, Sheriff J.R. "Ronny" Brownlow has scabby prisoners tell him to his face that they'll go back on meth the day they go free.

At the court building, state district Judge Carter Tarrance jokes about running a full-time meth court.

At Cedar Creek Lake, army retiree Al Gusner tells war stories about twitchy neighbors who rammed his car and held a knife to his throat for trying to chase meth users and labs from his neighborhood.

The drug known as "white-trash crack" has stalked the back roads of Henderson County, fueling child abuse, violence and misery for the last four years.

45 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:01 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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Thanks, but I'm stickin' with Sterno! ;)

Gawd! I can't believe people ingest this stuff! Ever seen photos of someone with "Meth Mouth?" Eewww! Call me vain, but I love my teeth too much, and have spent too much money on them to be an addict. *SHIVER*

As for banning stuff...it'll work just as well as anything else they've "banned" for the common good.

If Sudafed is outlawed, only Outlaws will have Sudafed. And they WILL find a way to get it. It'll just go underground. In fact, I'm sure some drug warlord is already pulling together a plan to keep the supply coming.


54 posted on 03/28/2005 1:08:05 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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Here is a bit of cold pill history, from 2000.
56 posted on 03/28/2005 1:20:43 PM PST by DBrow
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Based on your article, you may find this interesting.    I almost gave this a thread all its own just because of the forced "big brother" tactics being used.   Addicts will be addicts, and criminals will be criminals.  It is much easier to infer an innocent man is a criminal than it is to go out,  hunt down, and catch a real criminal.  It is also more cost effective when legal compliance takes precedence over real police work.  Now your pharmacist has to be a cop, and the store clerk has to be the inventory police.  Rather than go after the illegals they are afraid of, these "Drug War" boys want to be sure all legitimate cold/allergy sufferers, manufacturers and drug stores are punished if they do not comply with their demands.

 

Methamphetamine lab legislation debuts at County Council

DOWNTOWN AKRON — The first step in the county’s battle against illegal drug manufacturing labs was taken this week with the introduction of legislation limiting the sale of cold medications such as Sudafed.

Summit County Council heard first reading of the legislation at its March 21 meeting. If passed, the ordinance would require that products containing pseudoephedrine and phenylpropanolamine be removed from the shelves of stores and pharmacies within the county and placed behind the counter. These components of many cold medications are the main ingredient used in the making of methamphetamine, a highly addictive stimulant manufactured in clandestine, portable labs.

If the legislation passes, customers who want to purchase cold medicines with these ingredients will have to request the medication from a sales clerk or pharmacist. The amount a customer can purchase will also be limited, to six grams, which is the equivalent of three packages, the amount the state of Ohio has also proposed in statewide legislation.

Stores that fail to comply with the legislation would be subject to a $100 fine per day of noncompliance, according to the proposed legislation. Those who sell more than the allowed amount could be fined up to $1,000, as would those who fail to report thefts of the products to authorities.

The legislation has been assigned to the Public Safety Committee and will be discussed during committee meetings April 4.

 


60 posted on 03/28/2005 1:59:39 PM PST by tomball
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Part of the problem is the way some defense attorneys have managed to get their clients off by skirting previous laws. Now, unless some fool has ALL the ingredients on hand in his "meth lab", he can skate...


65 posted on 03/28/2005 2:10:32 PM PST by LRS
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The only thing that helps my occassional sinus headaches are Advil cold & sinus. I've tried other OTC remedies, both name brand and generic, and nothing else seems to work for me. I go through about 2 or 3 packages of the stuff every spring. I hope it's not going to be "going away." Although I have seen cases where some stores are storing the OTC products with pseudo ephedrine behind counters.

Mark

69 posted on 03/28/2005 2:17:35 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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