I am so tired of the demonizing of this man. If someone can post proof that he has done all of the things he is accused of that are not hearsay, I will stand corrected.
Proof aplenty of Michael's slimy ways are abundant for those who want to know.
But, maybe he and his new girltoy will donate the insurance money they will receive to charity. Uh huh.
welp, the uninformed and self-enlightened will be crawling out of the wordwork and dancing on the grave now. this is an apparent victory for everything our founders sought to preserve us from.
may you someday relish the taste of your own, poorly informed words.
Why does his hearsay outweigh anyone else's?
Most of us don't need a roadmap and eyewitnesses.
Fathering children with another woman while married to a woman still alive, persisting in his maniacal determination to let her die in such a despicable way without any attempt at rehabilitation, is proof enough that he is a vile abuser.
Apparently not enough proof for you.
I agree. Only God and Jesus know for sure the true facts of this case and they will judge accordingly in their time.
I agree. I am sure all these allegations of him murdering her have been checked and checked in all the trials. There is no prosecutor that wants something to surface later. Also, there is very little about Terri's advanced Bulimia that contributed greatly to her state. It would have been very fitting to put the focus on the Bulimia rather than on her husband. Maybe, just maybe, some of the teenage girls that think Bulimia isn't so bad, might just think twice!
2 kids with another woman. Call that hearsay?
If someone posted a video of him murdering small puppies--with cloven hooves even--you probably wouldn't believe it. Let's just say we have our rights to our opinions, based on what we've seen so far. You can think of him as St. Mike if you want, I think I will continue "demonizing" him--not that I need any help, he gives such ample reason.
Are signed affidavits hearsay? Or are you really this "in the dark?"
He is starving his wife. What more proof is needed to understand he is scum?
What I would prefer to see is something in writing that Terri said she wanted to die rather than live brain damaged.
I would not wish death on Michael Schiavo. I don't like him but God will judge in the end.
Go to the website and read the depositions. MS contradicts himself about the life support issues as well as how Terri was found. There is enough about this guy that is suspect to warrant it being checked.
Apart from all that, Terri had demonstrated natural breath..meaning without a respirator. Feeding tube..who among us could not exist without food and fluids? Terri is brain damaged not brain dead.
Seem MS lost his spouse status when he took up with another woman and sired 2 kids with her..he moved on. I don't buy into the Felos remarks about MS being in agony over the impending death..that he is in tears..tears of joy at moving on maybe but not at the loss of Terri. No this guy and his permitting Terri to have communion today was only a move to make himself look better to the public. I ain't buying it!
I found this over at Opinipundit.
03.27.05
Law Enforcement Officers Tell Bush to Open Criminal Investigation In Schiavo Case
Officer Jack McLamb (ret), the highest decorated police officer in the history of Phoenix, AZ, has joined with active and retired law enforcement officers asking Florida’s Gov. Jeb Bush to open a criminal investigation in the case of Terri Schindler-Schiavo, the disabled Florida woman who probate judge George W. Greer has sentenced to death by starvation and dehydration because she uses a feeding tube.
McLamb is founder of the American Citizens and Lawmen’s Association (ACLA), publisher of Aid and Abet Police and Military Newsletter. He is a former hostage negotiator for the FBI.
His letter to Gov. Bush follows:
Dear Governor Bush,
We active and retired, law enforcement police investigators, after reviewing the facts, evidence, witness statements, and investigative leads, in the Terri
Schiavo case have come to the determination that there must be a criminal investigation into the Schiavo case.
Our examination have caused we professional police investigators, to determine that there is evidence, witness statements (medical professionals and others)
that point to the strong probability that the victim/witness Terri Schiavo was violently attacked on the day of her injuries and this is likely what caused her disability. There are medical professionals who substantiate that Mrs. Schiavo was strangled and the blood was cut off to her brain for at least 4 to 5 minutes causing her brain damage. X-rays show that she received broken bones and other injuries on or around the same time as her alleged health problem on the day in question.
Testimony of witnesses state her husband Mr. Schiavo, even though being a trained nurse and did not start CPR at the scene of his wife's collapse. The emergency personal started CPR after they arrived which was some time after the "injuries" occurred.
We have assessed the person of Mr. Schiavo thought the witness statements of professional medical personal who have come in contact with him. Most of these witnesses have had contact with him in the medical or Hospice environment where his wife has been warehoused over the last decade. We say "warehoused" after much research into the total lack of rehab and medical treatment for
health problems such as infections, which he had demanded of the medical staff in each of these facilities.
Additionally, a true detriment to any criminal investigation conducted after Mrs. Schiavo dies, is that Mr. Schiavo has scheduled a cremation of her body
immediately after her death.
Governor Bush, we are concerned that the best evidence, witness statements, in any criminal investigation into alleged criminal attempted murder, capital assault and continued abuse, will die with Mrs. Schiavo. We also believe this is why Mr. Schiavo has had to turn down millions of dollars from donors, if he would but place Mrs. Schiavo's care into the hands of her family because of his concern that she may live and tell what happened to her on that fateful day. According to witnesses who spent months with Mrs. Schiavo, she could and did communicate with them during their duty hours at the Hospice centers.
Mr. Schiavo told these medical professionals he was wanting her to die. He also would cuss and say "Isn't that Bitch dead yet" and other words of disdain for his wife.
As you have heard, several professional medical nurses state that Mrs. Schiavo also ate and drank liquids during their tour of duty.
Governor Bush, this means that Mrs. Schiavo could be a witness to any possible crimes committed against her. Of course this will not be an option if she dies in the next hours. Our police investigators have read the witness statement of another professional medical staff member who said that on at least two occasions she and others believes that Mr. Schiavo tried to kill his wife while
he was in her room with the doors closed. These witnesses and investigative leads must be interviewed.
Governor Bush, we do not know what a full investigation into this case will determine, except we can be certain that more facts and evidence, will be discovered. But, one thing we are certain of, we police investigators need a
hero at this time to save the life of the prime witness and possible victim in this case. We are asking you to be that hero.
You do have the jurisdiction and power to start a criminal investigation into this case and suspend the death sentence of the prime witness.
Governor Bush, this is off subject, but it is a subject we lawmen know something about and we wish to share this with you. In the life of a man there are a few times when he is called on by the people to do something heroic. As you know, because of fear, most people pass up those very few opportunities to do what is right and be a hero of the people. This is why we see so few Americans in the
history books.
We don't have to tell you historically (even recent history) of men in high office who have answered the call to be a hero of the people. Yes, very few. But, some were governors who went on to gain higher office because of the
people's love and support for that heroic figure.
Governor Bush, do you know that the Pope and the Vatican have mentioned Mrs.Schiavo's terrible crucifixion here in this Easter week with her mother Mary nearby, and some Priests have now begun to reference it to the crucifixion
of a innocent man Jesus Christ, while His mother (Mary) stood nearby in anguish. Remember, Terri is a catholic and so is her family. You can be assured that most Catholics are going to side with the Pope.
Governor, very large Protestant organizations are on the side of saving Mrs. Schiavo's life until further tests can be accomplished and she can have real rehab to see if she can improve.
We have a letter of a very large national Jewish organization that wants Mrs. Schiavo saved. We can make all this available to you and your staff. But, Mrs. Shiavo's website has most of this material on it at www.terrisfight.org.
What we law enforcement officers wish to point out to you is that we professional investigators have our reasons to save this woman's life, i.e. we because she is a very important witness and the possible victim of a capitol
crime, but the world has heard of this case at this time. We even have a news article from a big Russia publication about American politicians letting a innocent women starve to death.
Governor Bush, the world and certainly most Americans want a hero today....this hour. The person who saves Mrs. Schiavo's life and gives her due process and a chance to tell her story of what actually happened to her will go down in history books. It is also true that after the books come out, and this story gets out about the facts, evidence of the conspiracy of government against this
innocent young women.... the people who allow her to die will also go down in history. It will mean the downfall of some in high places for their not wanting to step up and do their duty to protect the people and bring to justice
those who were the possible suspects in her demise.
Sir, I know that we are only law enforcement officers, but doubt us not, collectively we have been around a long time and know what we are talking about. There are already those in Hollywood who we know that are interested in the evidence and witness's into Terri Schiavo's side of this story.
Mel Gibson has issued a public letter on his own stationary to have our government leaders save her life. Some of our police association members are in contact with him and his family.
Governor, you are a good man. You could be a great man. There is no question this is a international situation and a heart warmer for any hero who steps forward to save this innocent, who "Pontious Pilate" (government leaders) has washed his hands of....here in this Easter week.
We police investigators look at all criminal cases as ...."does this case have jury appeal". Dear Governor, if any case has it.... this case has jury (massive public appeal).
Not only do you have the law on your side (one example - Judge Greer violated three state of Florida statutes in not defending Mrs. Schiavo as a disabled person when he pulled the tube of Mrs. Schiavo) ...we have the State Statutes, ....but you have Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson and other great leaders on your side. These great men and others, on numerous occasions, have stated that
the three areas of government, Executive, Judicial and Legislative, are to be separate and equal. You have publicly taken a lower and subordinate position to the judiciary - when this is not the case.
We criminal police investigators (and your Florida State Police) offer you a sound reason to be the people's hero and stop this young woman's horrible death thought dehydration, i.e.... THERE MUST BE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS CASE BEFORE THE PRIME WITNESS DIES! There are too many unanswered questions! Some of them may be criminal!
Governor Bush, you have your future before you, however some of that future may be linked to a young innocent who will die on your watch in the next few hours or days.
We believe in you, and we, along with millions of Americans, pray you will do the right thing, save a life, secure your witness... and be the people's hero.
We need a hero today.
Thank you for your efforts on behalf of all the people, even the weak and disabled.
Very sincerely,
Law officer Jack McLamb, Ret.
President of the American Citizens & Lawmen Association.
If someone can post proof that he has done all of the things he is accused of that are not hearsay, I will stand corrected"
Go back here at FR this last week and read ALL the threads and posts. The information's been given for years, the pages can be shown. You need to do the research and hard study.
And be praying for Terri while you do.
Hearsay was good enuff to kill Terri.
Gee, if I had pictures of the two children that he had with another woman, which are the results of his committing adultery, I'd post them. How's that for proof?
Perhaps you think adultery is OK? God doesn't, and neither do most of us who follow threads about Terri. Forget that he is denying her the RIGHT TO LIFE. He has NO proof that she said she wanted to die.
Or, maybe you think it's OK for him to be the insensitive POS that he is because he DEMANDS that Terri dies, no matter that it is BREAKING her parent's hearts? And, for pete's sake he MUST cremate her body, adding much more sadness to her grief stricken family, right?
Yeah, I'd say Michael Schaivo's just a regular boyscout, who is the victim here!
Exactly what kind of proof do you need? Do you support euthanasia of disabled people, or is it just Terri? If so, I imagine you support abortion too?
His actions give proof.
Parents made to stand in the parking lot rather than being with their daughter during her last hours as any other parent would be. A gift shop owner turned his shop over for their use - but they are only allowed visits - not continual comforting Terri by her mother.
Continual legal defense in order to kill her. If innocent, any other man would have cared enough about Terri to allow her to spend her days with her mother.
Immediate rabid countering of any endeavor to look at the records, to have Terri given further tests to determine exact status, denial of the comfort items for Terri, being taken outside, music, etc.
And, the immediate cremation. That is not your normal result of an innocent killing.
Denial of communion.
Spending of funds to kill her.
And the main one - why he feels he should be the determiner of life and death when HE HIMSELF NOW HAS ANOTHER WIFE AND CHILDREN. We do not allow 2 wives in this country at the same time.
Always remember - you can determine them by the fruits of their efforts.