Posted on 03/27/2005 11:39:47 AM PST by El_Doctor
Rick Barnard of Morris, Illinois, wass arrested Sunday after trying to bring Terri Schiavo Easter communion. per cnn... ALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) -- Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said on Sunday there is nothing else he can do to save Terri Schiavo's life. "I cannot violate a court order," Bush said after returning to the Governor's Mansion from Easter Sunday church services. "I don't have powers from the United States Constitution or -- for that matter from the Florida Constitution -- that would allow me to intervene after a decision has been made." To Terri Schiavo's parents -- who have said Bush should do more to help their daughter -- the governor said: "I can't. I'd love to, but I can't." The governor has been under public pressure from Bob and Mary Schindler, parents of the 41-year-old brain-damaged woman, and many religious groups to intervene further in the case. On Thursday, a Florida state judge denied a petition by Gov. Bush and the state Department of Children and Families to take Schiavo into state custody. (Full story) The Florida Supreme Court dismissed on Saturday -- for the second time in a week -- an emergency petition by the Schindlers to have their daughter's feeding tube reconnected. "I'm sad that she's in the situation that she's in," Bush said, commenting publicly on the case for the first time since Thursday. "I feel bad for her family. My heart goes out to the Schindlers and, for that matter, to [her husband] Michael [Schiavo]," Bush said. "This has not been an easy thing for any, any member of the family. But most particularly for Terri Schiavo."
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Thank you, Gov. Bush. You fought the valiant fight.
Again, they did get on the phone, and the sheriff's said they would obey the court order. Again, I disput ethe notion jeb has any authority over them anyway. You guys act like the full extenet had not been pursued here. you had a judicial order conflicting over an executive wish, which wasn't even backed up by the legislature.
I agree the judicial system has no check. That needs to be fixed. But, starting a firefight and having several law enforcement officers potentially dead and your governor in jail would not work.
you win.... you're the better christian.. i'm frankly too tired to explain AGAIN why that was not what i said... but, hey have a nice easter anyway...
Pray for W and Terri
Even if someone is deliberately starved to death. What kind of religion is that?
Good post. I'm exasperated aruging this. God Bless Terri and all those who defended her along the way.
No firefight need have occurred if Bush suspended the Pinellas County Sheriff on the spot and reminded him of state law as to who exactly is the Chief Law enforcemnet officer of the State of FL.
Something tells me that every LE officer of Pinellas county wouldn't risk their job over Judge Greer.
The Judicial Branch of Government requires the executive branches assets to enforce their edicts...without them they are powerless. And then, if the State Legislature felt it necessary after these actions by Bush, they were well within their right to impeach him.
This is how our system is supposed to work.
No one in this instance stood up to the Judiciary, and I'm afraid it might just embolden them more. Greer can tell LE whatever he wants, but when he directs LE in contradiction to the Governor, he should lose...every time.
If not, the Governor is powerless.
EXACTLY! Jeb and his brother have shown that in fact the master of this Wonderful place we call Aermica is in fact the Judicial Branch! Jeb has seperate, but equal powers to the Judicial Branch and no Judge can order Jeb to do anything!! They have bowed to their master and now we know they are cowards! I will never be a Liberal and consider myself on good conservative. I now Consider myself just to be a real Christian as it appears the Conservative leaders have wahsed their hands of a murder and don't seem to feel any guilt over it!
"Law is a lawyer-driven process." But, on the moral and ethical level, the dissent at the 11th circuit had it right. Sometimes a party is just not with-it. The law is supposed to look out for human interests. It failed, and it is a systemic failure. Lots of people will defend the indefensible. I won't.
Judge George Greer: conservative, religious, right-wing Republican.
If the only hope for the country is to elect judges we THINK will do what we want, our nation is doomed.
We don't need OUR judges in there so they can make laws we like; we need NO judges making law and exerting authority they don't have. The power to stop them is in the hands of the other two branches, particularly the executive branch.
What you propose actually furthers the notion that judges deserve the power they are accumulating for themselves: the power to be judge, law-maker, and police.
Our system of government was set up to prevent the crisis we have today. The executive branch is duty-bound to ignore unconstitutional orders. That simple.
I don’t know what was more interesting, the tear gas, the the bullets flying, and/or trying to get home from work avoiding arrest.
It was such a downer once it all came to an end. We had been on a full rush for so many years (starting well before 1987).
On many levels. Indeed.
Happy Easter! Death has been conquered! Life on earth is in for continuing rough times. I've read the book.
Having been in recovery for a number of years, I've come into contact with many that sound like they would experience "a rush" such as that and when it was over didn't know how to get it back..... Drugs and alchohol were unfortunately the avenue many followed... hope that was not the case in your life...
catch up later, off to mom's with my boys...
You might want to consider it from time to time especially when you are WRONG as you are here. Bush cannot legally violate a court order, even if the order is wrong. He can – I believe (I am not completely familiar with Florida law) – work to have a judge impeached. Our system of checks and balances works, but not always as quickly as we would like.
I understand your frustration – I share it – but extra legal methods are not the answer. Obviously there is a flaw in Florida’s law; that flaw needs to be corrected. Tragically, it appears that any correction will come too late for Terri.
I hope you have a happy and blessed Resurrection Day.
Review my posts (among the bizzilion). I've been calling for and attempting to outline the changes to current law we need to insist upon as the best hope of preventing this in the future.
My point about the Schindler's attorneys is that they prepared sloppy briefs. No excuse for that.
That may be true, but I think he also wants to avoid an armed confrontation and a possible shootout between state police and local police.
There are people with differing opinions, however.
The Judges in this matter, including Judge Greer have perpetually ignored or flaunted the law. Because the STARVATION and DEHDRATION of an innocent person (based on the hearsay of a passing comment made at 20) is so morally reprehensible, Jeb Bush should do the same.
Alas, I have spoken my mind and to take it any further with post's such as yours would be a frivolous attempt to place mindful thought into a pool of emotion.
I'm not a proponent of what is happening with Terri however I also am not a proponent of "beating a dead horse" either.
I may be p!ssed, frustrated, and disgruntled because of the outcome, I am helpless in changing law in time to save Terri.
My mindset however is to work to change the status quo and have a voice in change to help prevent such a diabolical action to take place ever again in the future.
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