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PRESERVED T. Rex Soft Tissue RECOVERED (Pic)
Star Tribune ^ | 03.24.05 | Randolph Schmid

Posted on 03/24/2005 12:04:54 PM PST by wallcrawlr

WASHINGTON — For more than a century, the study of dinosaurs has been limited to fossilized bones. Now, researchers have recovered 70-million-year-old soft tissue, including what may be blood vessels and cells, from a Tyrannosaurus rex.

If scientists can isolate proteins from the material, they may be able to learn new details of how dinosaurs lived, said lead researcher Mary Higby Schweitzer of North Carolina State University.

"We're doing a lot of stuff in the lab right now that looks promising,'' she said in a telephone interview. But, she said, she does not know yet if scientists will be able to isolate dinosaur DNA from the materials.

The soft tissues were recovered from the thighbone of a T. rex, known as MOR 1125, that was found in a sandstone formation in Montana. The dinosaur was about 18 years old when it died.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; creation; dinosaur; dna; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; maryschweitzer; paleontotology; trex; tyrannosaurus
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To: biblewonk

the problem is you cannot prove it is Gods word. the Muslims claim gods word also in the Koran. So who has the franchise on truth?


441 posted on 03/28/2005 7:30:03 AM PST by ACDSWIZ
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To: js1138
Whether fish or salamander, these were preserved in so fresh a state, the scientific correspondent reported, that those present immediately broke open the ice encasing the specimens and devoured them with relish on the spot.

The magazine no doubt astonished its small audience with the news of how successfully the flesh of fish could be kept fresh in a frozen state. But few, indeed, among its readers were able to decipher the genuine and heroic meaning of this incautious report.

... Which was that "those present" at those "excavations" at the Kolyma River were half-starved zeks (gulag prisoners) who would eat anything smacking of protein or carbohydrates or fat no matter how obviously old.
442 posted on 03/28/2005 7:35:09 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

Ignore the freezer burn.


443 posted on 03/28/2005 7:41:27 AM PST by js1138 (Omne ignotum pro magnifico)
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To: Step_Into_the_Void

Wow, someone had a nice warm bowl of Cream of Grouch this morning. :P


444 posted on 03/28/2005 7:43:38 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ACDSWIZ

Disrespect is taken when the Bible is not respected. Whether you mean it or not.

And I'm perfectly content realizing thats "my problem". As a Christian, I'll accept disrespect when its based on someones persecution of the word of God.

Science and God, one is a gift from the other....you choose which.


445 posted on 03/28/2005 7:44:13 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Crusher138
I have always believed that when it is all revealed we will be surprised at just how accurate the Bible was without being specific.

That is the trick, isn't it? Non-specific statements can never be wrong.

446 posted on 03/28/2005 7:49:17 AM PST by js1138 (Omne ignotum pro magnifico)
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To: wallcrawlr

I don't really care if you are offended. These are matters which we as limited humans will never know. As I posted earlier you and the fundamentalist Muslims are birds of a feather. Both of your groups are convinced that you know the one and only truth. Fortunately Christians have moved on from their old ways of killing those who do not agree with them. The Muslims are still working on it.


447 posted on 03/28/2005 7:53:41 AM PST by ACDSWIZ
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There is no way that soft tissue lasted 70 million years.

Obviously the geologists have been lying to us.

This is the greatest boon to creationist science since it's inception.


448 posted on 03/28/2005 7:57:28 AM PST by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: ACDSWIZ
I don't really care if you are offended.

ummm...yeah, I know that.

Its obvious.

I dont live my life looking for selfish opportunities to offend people...you and I have chosen to live differently I guess.

When youre able to, please share a personal belief you have so that I can take the opportunity to trash it. I want to see what I'm missing.

449 posted on 03/28/2005 8:09:29 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: stremba
LOL!

It always "irrelevant" when it doesn't match your absurd views. Geesh! Even a bud of mine who is a stout evolutionist laughed his arse off on "soft tissue being 70 million years old". No kidding. Even in his blindness he can still grasp some reality - it is NOT feasable for soft tissue to last 70 million years!

Hey, believe whatever you wish! Join the kooks, it's okay.
450 posted on 03/28/2005 8:13:42 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: js1138
I like sushi, but I wouldn't eat a fresh salamander. I guess you have to be really hungry.
451 posted on 03/28/2005 8:13:48 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro

Salamanders have to be properly cooked, preferably for at least seven years. No Salamander sushi.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=67&letter=S


452 posted on 03/28/2005 8:24:16 AM PST by js1138 (Omne ignotum pro magnifico)
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To: js1138
That's not what I meant. Maybe I meant to say "newt."

Nah!

453 posted on 03/28/2005 8:29:52 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: mercy
There is no way that soft tissue lasted 70 million years.

Why not?

454 posted on 03/28/2005 8:42:28 AM PST by Modernman ("They're not people, they're hippies!"- Cartman)
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To: biblewonk

I was simply making a point. Over the past several millenia, humans have been interpreting the Bible in differing ways. Heated arguments and even wars have been fought because different people have interpreted Scriptures differently. Other than your own faith, what evidence do you have that your interpretation of the Bible must be absolutely the correct one and that anything that anyone else has to say is completely without merit? As I said before, Scripture is inerrant, but humans are not. If the Bible is so easy to understand and no interpretation is required, why are there so many different opinions as to what the Bible says?


455 posted on 03/28/2005 8:48:58 AM PST by stremba
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To: nmh

Why does soft tissue decay? What is the mechanism? Please just answer that question as it is the key to understanding whether or not soft tissue can last 70 million years.


456 posted on 03/28/2005 8:51:09 AM PST by stremba
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To: Modernman

Oh please. You might as well believe in the tooth fairy. If soft tissue was incased in several inches of diamond ... perhaps. In rock the dessication alone would dry it up and petrify it.

Of course the scientific community will believe it. They HAVE to.


457 posted on 03/28/2005 8:53:31 AM PST by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: stremba

You're too far gone for a rational discussion.

"soft tissue survives 70 million years"

LOL!!!!

The very questions that direct to me are what YOU need to answer!

I'm not going to waste my time on this. I'll waste my time on other issues but this one is OBVIOUS.


458 posted on 03/28/2005 8:56:00 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: mercy
Oh please. You might as well believe in the tooth fairy. If soft tissue was incased in several inches of diamond ... perhaps. In rock the dessication alone would dry it up and petrify it.

This soft tissue was encased in petrified bone. The article talks about the very special circumstances that led to the soft tissue surviving.

Is this type of preservation common? Probably not. However, the existence of this soft tissue is proof that it CAN happen.

459 posted on 03/28/2005 9:00:18 AM PST by Modernman ("They're not people, they're hippies!"- Cartman)
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To: nmh

Since you refuse to answer my question, I will assume that you don't know what causes soft tissue to decay. The answer is bacterial action. Soft tissue in a sterile environment will not decay. Only when exposed to bacteria does it decay. Therefore, if encapsulated in mineral deposits that prevent bacterial exposure, there's no reason to assume that the soft tissue cannot survive. Since all you've presented so far are arguments from incredulity and some borderline ad hominem attacks, I will assume that you will have nothing constructive to say on this matter. I simply put this information out so that lurkers will see it. From this day forward, I will have nothing further to say to you. Regards.


460 posted on 03/28/2005 9:00:54 AM PST by stremba
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