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Russia's Sukhoi to develop 5th generation fighter jet.
pravda.ru ^ | 03/23/2005

Posted on 03/23/2005 8:40:27 AM PST by lizol

Russia's Sukhoi to develop 5th generation fighter jet 03/23/2005 18:47

The new fighter jet will be a fundamentally new machine, not just a modernized version of an old pursuit plane

The competition of world's biggest superpowers to develop the fifth generation of pursuit planes still continues. Russian specialists intend to build such a jet, or an aviation complex, as engineers say, in five or seven years. Technical details of such developments are being kept top secret, although Russian aircraft designers decided to expose several solutions of theirs.

Russia's world-famous major aircraft corporations, MiG and Sukhoi were fighting for the right to take the state order for the development of the fighter jet of the fifth generation. MiG specialists chose the 1.44 index aircraft as the prototype of the new jet, whereas Sukhoi decided to base its work on the Su-47 fighter jet. The two planes proved excellent flight performance, but Sukhoi's Su-47 eventually won the contest.

Su-47 "Berkut" ("Golden Eagle") plane is over 25 meters long; the jet's wingspan is more than 15 meters. The peculiar feature of the Su-47 jet is its forward swept wings, which actually gave him the "Berkut" title. The engine of the plane is another peculiarity of the machine - the engine possesses the controlled traction vector. The traction can be changed not only on the axe of the engine, but at an angle to it as well.

The engine of the Russian company Lulka-Saturn is a unique development of Russian engineers, which does not have any analogues in the world. The engine was originally installed on the Su-27 jet, but was subsequently modified for Su-47.

The Su-47 plane will serve as a base, on which new solutions of the fifth generation plane will be tested. Mikhail Pogosyan, Sukhoi's general director, says that the new fighter jet will be a fundamentally new machine, not just a modernized version of the "Berkut."

The pursuit aviation has reached the point, at which the speed requires the absolute precision and attention from a pilot, who hardly has any time to process all the information. Sukhoi specialists think that there is no point to increase the speed further on. "We do not plan the development of aviation technology on the continuing increase of the flight speed. The absence of the future speed perfection will be compensated with a complex of plane equipment and missiles. The ultrasonic speed capacity of the missiles will enable the destruction of even remote targets," Mikhail Pogosyan said.

The controlled traction vector engine of Su-47 will have to be thoroughly modernized. The aerodynamic scheme of Su-47 will undergo fundamental changes as well. Sukhoi's specialists are currently considering an opportunity to use forward swept wings and the front horizontal empennage for the new plane - small wings in the front part of the hull. Mikhail Pogosyan emphasized that the aerodynamic scheme would not repeat the previously discovered solutions: it will be much more complicated.

The 5th generation fighter jet by Sukhoi will be a single-seated aircraft, in which a pilot will have an opportunity to be in full control of the machine with the help of the high-tech equipment.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: airforce; aviation; fighter; military; miltech; russia; russian; su; su47; sukhoi
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To: lizol

Gant, can you fly that plane?

21 posted on 03/23/2005 9:25:57 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Sax
Unreal!
22 posted on 03/23/2005 9:32:23 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: Sax
Unreal!
23 posted on 03/23/2005 9:32:29 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: Joe 6-pack

"Must think in Russian!"


24 posted on 03/23/2005 9:33:02 AM PST by Sax
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To: Fast1
Mod please remove my duplicate post
25 posted on 03/23/2005 9:33:18 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: Fast1
Mod please remove my duplicate post
26 posted on 03/23/2005 9:36:04 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: Sax
Acthung! Our plans from 1944 have been ripped off. Again!


27 posted on 03/23/2005 9:39:31 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Spktyr
Nothing looks as mean as our new UCAV's will:


28 posted on 03/23/2005 9:44:05 AM PST by gura
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To: gura

Yup, and it doesn't matter if the new Sukhoi can turn on a dime; it's still limited by the physiology of the pilot. UCAVs should be able to pull sustained 10G+ turns, which the pilot of the Sukhoi won't.

Besides, if the pilot is evading incoming missiles, he's going to be too busy to attack.


29 posted on 03/23/2005 9:53:37 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Joe 6-pack; Sax
One of the finest aircraft movies out there (if not the finest, since on top of the great action it actually had a plot).

"I want him obliterated!"

30 posted on 03/23/2005 10:07:23 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: lizol
While Putin's boys are talking about going here:

We've been flying this for over 8 years:

31 posted on 03/23/2005 10:31:42 AM PST by Yossarian (Remember: NOT ALL HEART ATTACKS HAVE TRADITIONAL SYMPTOMS)
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To: Spktyr
"No stealth systems - easy meat for an AMRAAM. So much for that idea."

How about the ABL 747? It should be able to target this supposed 5th generation fighter from 400 miles slant range with 95% or better hit capability. Talk about "over the horizon". Stealth pays dividends at all times.

Sometimes those thrust vectoring engines can cause problems:


32 posted on 03/23/2005 10:37:28 AM PST by datura (Stress is best relieved using therapeutic high explosives.)
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To: lizol

An x-wing fighter. Remember from Star Wars?


33 posted on 03/23/2005 11:01:03 AM PST by holdmuhbeer
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To: holdmuhbeer

I know, I know (post #13).


34 posted on 03/23/2005 11:02:38 AM PST by lizol
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To: lizol
Both MIG 1.44 and Su-47 were designed around early 90's and are still based on Soviet technology.

Su-47 will be a base for a new machine, so it will be a heavy fighter, probably a very good one, but still far behind F-22 - rather on the level of Eurofighter or French Rafale. If they want cash, then they should rather create some light multirole fighter like new American F-35, quite good, but relatively cheap - they could easily sell hundreds of them to South America, Africa and Asia.
In my opinion they just want to show how "powerful" they are and If some foreign partners (India, China...) won't be found then a whole project will be canceled in 4-5 years.

They are right that both prototypes proved excellent flight performance, but Russians are still behind in electronics.
Some exported Russian airplanes have western (French, Israeli) electronic equipment, for example these for India, but they can't do it with China, at least until the embargo is lifted, but even then European producers and politicians would put pressure on China to buy their own airplanes than only electronics for Russian machines.

Generally I'm surprised that France and Germany want to lift arms embargo on China. Puti won't be happy.
35 posted on 03/23/2005 11:08:24 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ping.


36 posted on 03/23/2005 11:14:18 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Wiz

I don't see any supercruise or stealth technology in this craft. Anyway, the next generation of aircraft will not be manned. It will be the first of the drone generation. You can rest assured this is what the Skunkworks guys have in their garage these days.

They won't replace manned aircraft, but why limit yourself to the human body's limitations. Mach 2.5, 18G turns with computer assisted stability and polymer reinforced airframes.

Once again, the russians are being bottom feeders and are one step behind. The only true advantage they have is in their radar designs in my opinion.


37 posted on 03/23/2005 11:56:24 AM PST by ChinaThreat
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To: datura

38 posted on 03/23/2005 12:48:51 PM PST by Wiz
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To: Spktyr

I'll take swarms of evil capitalist drones over some Sukhoi's anyday. :-)


39 posted on 03/23/2005 5:58:05 PM PST by gura
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To: Little Pig
Going to be slow. See the subtext in the article. Fast turning mattered in the era of rear angle missiles, and it is an asset to be sure. But visible and not fast, I doubt maneuverable will be an adequate compensation. Ask the Japanese...
40 posted on 03/23/2005 6:01:50 PM PST by JasonC
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