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Showdown: Battle groups head for Mideast: Corsi reveals preparations for Bush to confront Iran
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, March 22, 2005 | Jerome Corsi

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:30:13 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Three carrier battle groups are converging on the Persian Gulf. The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson has departed Singapore and is currently crossing the Indian Ocean, en route to the Middle East. The aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt is also on the move, crossing the Atlantic Ocean, reportedly headed toward the Mediterranean.

Reports are also circulating that the U.S. Navy has dispatched ships containing nuclear armaments to reinforce the battle groups. This will be the first time since February 2004 that the U.S. has had three major carrier groups stationed on or around the Middle East.

Each of the carrier groups are armed with 85 aircraft capable of delivering precision-guided munitions. The air refueling capabilities of the aircraft allow them to operate from long distances. Each carrier battle group will include nuclear submarine protective cover. The battle groups can act independently and can stay on station indefinitely.

The U.S. military air bases in Turkey, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, the Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia, not to mention those recently established in Iraq and Afganistan, give the U.S. formidable muscle in the area. In addition, we have more than 150,000 battle-hardened Army and Marine forces on the ground in the region, capable of responding to any threat we face.

What's going on? Looks like it's showdown time with both Iran and Syria. President Bush has said in words of one syllable that Iran will not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. He has also demanded that Syria completely withdraw its military and intelligence forces from Lebanon. Nor will George W. Bush rest quietly until the mullahs quit funding Hezbollah.

How many times do the president and the secretary of state need to say that we have not taken the military option off the table? The world by now should be getting the point. The president has also repeatedly said that he will respect Israel's right to protect itself. Vice President Cheney has said very clearly that Israel could be expected to attack Iran the minute Israel decides that the mullahs have reached the "point of no return" and have everything they need to make an atomic bomb.

Neither the president of the United States nor the prime minister of Israel want to find out that the mullahs have nuclear weapons by seeing a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv. On 9-11, we all had that type of rude awakening when we saw the second plane crash into the World Trade Center. The president must have privately sworn his own form of "never again" in pledging that he would not permit the U.S. to find out our enemies had shipped an improvised nuclear device into America by waking up one fine day to see a mushroom cloud over New York City or Washington, D.C.

Is it too late for diplomacy? No. But it is too late for more lies by the mullahs. Yes, the Europeans can continue their diplomacy. Yet the president has demanded more than words. If the mullahs do not intend to build an atomic bomb, then let them destroy their centrifuges and their heavy-water plant. The only purpose of the centrifuges is to enrich uranium to weapons grade. The only point of the heavy-water plant is to produce weapons-grade plutonium. Anything else the mullahs say is just another attempt by them to play the world for a fool.

George Bush is no fool. Nor does he have infinite patience. The president would clearly prefer to see freedom come to Iran and Lebanon by peaceful means. But, if all else fails, we have three nuclear-armed carrier battle groups in the region that are more than capable of resolving the problem.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; comegetsome; corsi; deployed; geopolitics; iran; middleeast; militarybases; next; qatar; shipmoveement; southwestasia; syria; usstheodoreroosevelt
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1 posted on 03/23/2005 2:30:13 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMBLE!


2 posted on 03/23/2005 2:35:10 AM PST by gr8eman (I think...therefore I am...a capitalist!)
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Well, looks like it is a good thing we kept it a secret, eh??


3 posted on 03/23/2005 2:39:52 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Maybe its cover for the Israelis. I dont think we would attack on our holiest week of the nation.


4 posted on 03/23/2005 2:48:35 AM PST by sanchez810
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To: RaceBannon
looks like it is a good thing we kept it a secret, eh??

Its not supposed to be. The whole idea is to make Iran factor our naval presence and what it could mean into their decision making process.

5 posted on 03/23/2005 3:11:54 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: JohnHuang2
It's a chess game. Advertising the movement of these carrier groups was intentional, clearly aimed at Iranian leadership. But they know and we know that air strikes against command and control and nuclear-related facilities would simply not be enough. The mullahs are probably betting the President doesn't have enough domestic support for an incursion designed to take out their nuclear capabilities, much less a full-fledged invasion. People inclined to oppose a preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites--aside from the usual radical Islamic and leftist suspects--would be those who felt we didn't try hard enough diplomatically. Any member of the EU--including Great Britain--comes immediately to mind.
6 posted on 03/23/2005 3:17:04 AM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: sanchez810

It'll probably take more than a week to prepare.


7 posted on 03/23/2005 3:29:30 AM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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I belive the presiden when he said that we would give the Euros a chance.so, its unlikey we will attack.


8 posted on 03/23/2005 3:36:31 AM PST by sanchez810
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To: JohnHuang2
"This will be the first time since February 2004 that the U.S. has had three major carrier groups stationed on or around the Middle East."

Okay, it's March 2005. What's to say that this isn't an annual exercise, training in manuever of multiple carrier groups? I'm suspicious, because of how this is being played up.

9 posted on 03/23/2005 4:07:21 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: JohnHuang2

RE:"Rosie" deployment...Fredhead-a poster here on FR stated yesterday that he was still working onboard the Rosie in Norfolk...


10 posted on 03/23/2005 4:18:10 AM PST by donozark (OLD ARAB SAYING: The dog barks but the caravan moves on.)
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To: Rembrandt_fan
That's the key point. We don't have to make an incursion into Iran. I don't know why folks have this "We gotta invade Iran" mentality. All we have to do is be ready to wipe out any offensive naval or land operation by Iran while Israel takes out the nuclear facilities with commando strikes followed by the bunker busters we sold them. I wouldn't be surprised if the action coincided with mass demonstations in Iranian cities to tie up the mullah's forces.

Anything Iran tries to send into Iraq will be destroyed along with any naval vessel that goes on the offense. If any vessel in Iran's navy keys a fire control radar, it's history. There's potentially more firepower in one of those carrier groups than was unleashed in all of WW II. It looks like Iran is going to be added to the list with Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.
11 posted on 03/23/2005 4:20:41 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: gr8eman
The urgency of the situation has not been properly vetted. Indication next week as to the need to take preemptive action will be the trigger if we are to take them out.

If Israel does the deed we will provide cover and no background noise will be forthcoming.

12 posted on 03/23/2005 4:28:06 AM PST by TUX (Domino effect)
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To: sanchez810
Maybe its cover for the Israelis. I dont think we would attack on our holiest week of the nation.

Why not?
Our FA-18 Easterbunnies can hide their bright eggs with the mushrooms inside all over Iran.

So9

13 posted on 03/23/2005 7:03:06 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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it is certainly ramping up the pressure...idont think some folks in iran will be sleeping quite as soundly, i know i would not be. i would be looking for a lot of reinforced concrete between me and the ground....and i mean alot....i too dont think there is an invasion but i would not be suprised of a 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident used to spark of some retaliatory action....


14 posted on 03/23/2005 7:26:38 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!! HUH)
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To: Rembrandt_fan
Ships underway (pieces in play) as of 3/23/05:

Carriers:
USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) - Sea of Japan
USS Nimitz (CVN 68) - Pacific Ocean
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) - Persian Gulf
USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) - Red Sea

Source: http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/news/.www/status.html

15 posted on 03/23/2005 7:44:58 AM PST by yatros from flatwater (Justice, Justice, you shall pursue!)
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To: sanchez810
Since the other thread is 'locked', I'll repost my comment here.

This is an editorial by Jerome Corsi who wrote "Atom Iran".

Is he just excerpting from his book?
16 posted on 03/23/2005 7:48:35 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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FYI.............

Typically a carrier strike group might have:

* A CARRIER – The carrier provides a wide range of options to the U.S. government from simply showing the flag to attacks on airborne, afloat and ashore targets. Because carriers operate in international waters, its aircraft do not need to secure landing rights on foreign soil. These ships also engage in sustained operations in support of other forces.
* A GUIDED MISSLE CRUSER– multi-mission surface combatant. Equipped with Tomahawks for long-range strike capability.
* TWO GUIDED MISSLE DESTROYERS – multi-mission suface combatants, used primarily for anti-air warfare (AAW)
* AN ATTACK SUBMARINE – in a direct support role seeking out and destroying hostile surface ships and submarines
* A CONBINED AMMUNITION,OILER,SUPPLY SHIP – provides logistic support enabling the Navy's forward presence: on station, ready to respond


17 posted on 03/23/2005 7:51:55 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: JohnHuang2

People need to understand this *is* diplomacy!


18 posted on 03/23/2005 7:52:08 AM PST by to the core
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To: Bigh4u2
Since the other thread is 'locked', I'll repost my comment here.

This is an editorial by Jerome Corsi who wrote "Atom Iran".

Is he just excerpting from his book?

That's Atomic Iran

Books have a lead time. Dr. Corsi's predictions about the situation in the Middle East have been remarkably accurate, but it's asking a bit much to expect him to know the precise configuration of U.S. battle groups in the theater several months in advance...

20 posted on 03/23/2005 7:55:44 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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