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Schiavo Case: Judge Greer parts ways with his church on pastor's advice
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 03.22.05 | Times Staff

Posted on 03/22/2005 5:58:03 AM PST by Dr. Marten

The Terri Schiavo Case

Judge Greer parts ways with his church on pastor's advice

By Times Staff
Published March 22, 2005

CLEARWATER - Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer left his church last week after the pastor wrote him a letter suggesting "it might be easier for all of us" if he leave.

Greer, whose orders on the Terri Schiavo case have brought him criticism, is a Southern Baptist who attended Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater.

Though he had other unrelated problems with the church, Greer's attendance faltered after a Baptist publication the church supported criticized his decisions in the Schiavo case. He stopped his donations to the church, but remained a member. He briefly discussed his relationship with the church in a March 6 St. Petersburg Times article.

Four days later, Calvary Pastor William Rice wrote Greer a letter: "I am not asking you to do this, but since you have taken the initiative of withdrawal, and since your connection with Calvary continues to be a point of concern, it would seem the logical and, I would say, biblical course."

Rice's letter became public when he sent a copy to the Clearwater courthouse. Rice also said the church supports keeping Schiavo alive, though he said he was "truly saddened and embarrassed by the level of harassment and vitriolic nature of so many comments that purportedly come from people of faith."

Rice, who has been pastor at the church for five months, added: "But you must know that in all likelihood it is this case which will define your career and this case that you will remember in the waning days of life. I hope you can find a way to side with the angels and become an answer to the prayers of thousands."

Greer responded with a letter severing his relationship with the church.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bino; judgegreer; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Warhammer
Thank you for the scripture.

And a heavy heart is right.

201 posted on 03/22/2005 10:37:21 AM PST by mother22wife21
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To: ThePaladin
Welcome to FR, tp. Interesting post, but you forgot to include the obligatory "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone" quotation. But, as Paul Harvey would say, here is the rest of that story:

Then Jesus turned to the woman and said, "Where are thine accusers? Does no man condemn thee?" The woman looked up and said "No man, my Lord." Then Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn thee. Go, and sin no more."

202 posted on 03/22/2005 10:38:27 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Terriergal

No.


203 posted on 03/22/2005 10:40:01 AM PST by mother22wife21
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To: Terriergal
If the sinner insists you love his sin too, what are you to do?

Excellent Point. Kudos to you. Sometimes you have to break it down to that simple question.

204 posted on 03/22/2005 10:42:46 AM PST by mother22wife21
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Unbelievably asinine - he has alot of hits now and alot of comments I see - and no bids. Well, yet.

We should be reporting it to the eBay pinks.


205 posted on 03/22/2005 10:47:02 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: ThePaladin; MeekOneGOP

hmm... sniff. ping....


206 posted on 03/22/2005 10:51:37 AM PST by Hi Heels (Now Andy, I ain't got time for them trivial trivialities...Barney Fife)
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To: mother22wife21

Ya know, I was being facetious... he's just evil incarnate.


207 posted on 03/22/2005 10:54:54 AM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I did. the more people that report it the sooner they will notice it.


208 posted on 03/22/2005 10:55:26 AM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: ThePaladin

Jesus wasn't stupid, why do you assume the Church should be. Biblical process is unambiguous. If a person will not suffer correction, they are to be shown the door. But, it's nice you could show your "feelings" on the matter. I'm sure if we just threaten saddam for another 12 years and show him we love him.......


209 posted on 03/22/2005 10:59:43 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Terriergal

I have just reported it too.

I also made a thread on a discussion board there, since it hadn't seemed to come up on "auctions" or "miscellaneous", either. So I suppose we aren't being "repetitive" or overwhelming.


210 posted on 03/22/2005 11:20:01 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Good grief! What an a-hole puttin' that up on eBay.

211 posted on 03/22/2005 11:27:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: All; Terriergal

I intended to post a public comment to the "seller", but didn't know anything about that feature (new to me!) and ended up privately e-mailing him. Here's the messages:



"No, are *you* really this *sick* and cavalier? Your joke is grotesque. And inappropriate on eBay, regardless."
...............
"Shut up."


....in my inbox.


Also, my thread at the eBay boards about this auction was deleted and I was sent a warning by eBay! What crappola!


212 posted on 03/22/2005 11:51:44 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; All
Just checked the E-Bay link and got this.

Invalid Item This listing (5567730590) has been removed by eBay or is no longer available. Please make sure that you've entered the item number correctly.

213 posted on 03/22/2005 12:10:39 PM PST by mother22wife21 ("Yeah, that artichoke laughed, but you selectively edited that video didn't you...?" Dr. Frank fan)
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To: mother22wife21; All

Yup, here's the thread declaring that fact....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1368167/posts


214 posted on 03/22/2005 12:12:15 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

What is it? The item has been removed from ebay.


215 posted on 03/22/2005 12:17:13 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: BikerNYC
I've always thought that it is only the Supreme Court that can reverse one of its decisions, a lower court cannot (or should not).

Actually a lower can and should reverse a decision if something new is discovered that SCOTUS didnt take into consideration or SCOTUS at the time of the ruling ex Dred Scott,Plessy v. Fergunson. If your logic was true then why even bother going to lower courts they will just uphold SCOTUS, and then nothing will ever change!

216 posted on 03/22/2005 12:20:24 PM PST by Evolution
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To: Evolution

The only reason to go through the lower courts is because you have to.


217 posted on 03/22/2005 12:27:58 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC

And as you go through the lower courts you need to have some case law on your side and you get that case law when the lower courts side your way.


218 posted on 03/22/2005 12:58:54 PM PST by Evolution
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To: Evolution

Or you lose and then appeal.


219 posted on 03/22/2005 1:11:43 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC
Appeal with what?

If their is never any ruling that contradicts SCOTUS you have very little leverage.

220 posted on 03/22/2005 1:21:53 PM PST by Evolution
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