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"When Is That Bitch Gonna Die?" - Micheal Schiavo
BlueStarBase.org ^ | 3-21-2005 | Barbara Stanley

Posted on 03/21/2005 7:50:03 AM PST by Pendragon_6

Lets see, first Michael Schiavo beats and strangles his wife Terri, leaves her lying unconscious on the floor until her family arrives to get her to the hospital.

Then Michael Schiavo sues the hospital for $20 million because he needs the money to get his poor wife therapy.

Then Michael Schiavo pockets the money, denies his wife the care he said she needed and finally, claims she really wants to die.

Michael Schiavo killed his wife Terri's cat, melted down her wedding ring and then took up with his girlfriend and lives with her today with their children. Does this sound like a loving husband who really cares about his wife's wishes?

And what do we get on the tube every hour on the hour: “persistent vegetative state” as though any of the talking heads who ghoulishly proclaim Terri's life isn't worth that of a convicted serial killer sitting on death row (for 20 years, while due process goes on).

Michael Schiavo's supporters claim he loved his wife Terri enough to take a nursing degree so that he could take care of her. I think he got that nursing degree so he could inject her with insulin and hasten her death and his complete claim to all the money he won in litigation.

Just take a gander at the sworn testimony of an attending nurse: Carla Sauer Iyer (affidavit* below) but let me save you some time and report a quote of Michael Schiavo's after visiting his still living wife: "When is that bitch gonna die?"

Hmmm. Loving husband or man so afraid of not only not getting the money (what's left of the $20 million) but the prospect of facing a jury for his attempted murder, a charge which is possible as long as Terri lives. Sounds like motive to me.

Michael Schiavo says Terri said she never wanted to be kept alive on machines. Okay. Even if that was her statement (which there is absolutely no corroborating testimony and quite the unusual statement coming from a young, newly married woman still in her twenties and full of life); Terri is not being kept alive by machines!

Terri has a feeding tube from which she gets food and water. Had she had the care and therapy she was entitled to, there is every chance today Terri would be divorced from that louse and feeding herself just fine.

About that “loving husband” crapola: what husband do you know evinces his marital fidelity and love by living with another woman, having children with that woman and dumps his wife in a hospice while waiting for her to die? What loving husband kills his sick wife's pet? What loving husband denies his wife's family visitation?

I ask these questions because the media morons are still stuck with their new term: “persistent vegetative state” and are oblivious to the actual facts of this tragic case.

Continued


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To: dirtymac

??? No, I was referring specifically to the lies and demonizations and perpetuations of such, many alleged "Christians" have done just to try to keep Terri's body alive.

Actually, having a tube directly implanted into a person's stomach is an "artificial" means since the "normal" way is via the mouth. Don't you agree?

Also, you're confusing an active action of murder with the passive action (or more accurately, inaction) of letting nature takes its course.

After all, were it not for modern medical science; Terri would've died within several days of her collapse.

By way of illustration (albeit only tangential), imagine if you will a drowned child who is only kept alive by a life support machine in the hospital emergency. This child is brain dead (I know, I know, not the same with Terri but bear with me). Which is murder, injecting the child with cyanide or pulling the plug?

That is the difference between murder and letting nature take its course.


241 posted on 03/21/2005 9:47:34 AM PST by Edward Watson
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To: Sho Nuff

He may not have abused her then, as there is no evidence available right now to say definitively one way or the other(presumption of innocence). He is, however, most definitely abusing her now.


242 posted on 03/21/2005 9:47:54 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Sho Nuff

You know that, do you? Give us the sources, or quit disseminating lies.


243 posted on 03/21/2005 9:47:54 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Arkie2
You're making a lot of claims that you'll have to support. Where's the evidence he tried to kill his wife and the evidence he killed a family pet. Not to mention melting down a wedding ring.

It was two cats. He had her rings melted and made into a ring for himself.
He said it himself on Larry King Live last year.

244 posted on 03/21/2005 9:48:25 AM PST by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: vishnu6
Why are you so afraid to let Terri join Christ in heaven?

If someone is dying of disease, then yes let them go. To FORCE the issue by witholding sustanance is nothing short of MURDER. So, are YOU a Christian or a murder supporter????

Semper disgusted

245 posted on 03/21/2005 9:49:38 AM PST by Trident/Delta ("Veni..Vedi..Velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around......")
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To: Edward Watson

Your wife died naturally, sadly, but naturally. Terri is not in a vegetative state and there are signs that she could be helped and wants help. I have no problem with a death that's natural and imminent. People must die at some time but not starving to death. That's inhuman. Would you starve your dog to death? No. You wouldn't. This is not an easy case to decide. I've already signed a do not resuscitate on my 'will' if I'm already close to death. People need to have a living will. Perhaps this will encourage folks to do that, no matter what their age.


246 posted on 03/21/2005 9:50:21 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Edward Watson

Sir,

You are shoveling s**t against the tide here. It's artificial to feed her for FIFTEEN YEARS with a tube but the emotional jury here will never see that.

However, if THEY were getting the medical bill for her storage, vice everyone who has insurance, who foots the bill for the insurance settlement since it is spread-loaded around the industry, they'd be pulling that tube ASAP.


247 posted on 03/21/2005 9:51:34 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: HMFIC

His wife? How many wives is Micheal permitted to have? Michael needs to 'get over it', unless of course, he has something to hide!

He's got TWO children by another woman, whom he's been living with, common-law for years!

He was trying to get a divorce at the time of Terri's initial 'collapse' and the only reason he hasn't gone ahead, is to continue control over her situation.


248 posted on 03/21/2005 9:52:39 AM PST by spoiler2
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To: Edward Watson
Actually, having a tube directly implanted into a person's stomach is an "artificial" means since the "normal" way is via the mouth.

She was able to swallow, until her husband insisted she not be fed by mouth but by feeding tube. Strangely, this was about the time Florida law changed the definition of special measures to by adding the use of feeding tubes. Coincidence?

If you had an old and dying dog, would you kill it by denying it water and food? I don't think you are such a monster.

249 posted on 03/21/2005 9:53:35 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Marysecretary
People need to have a living will.

Excellent advice. As to the other information, the Independent Docs have said that she is a veg. Period. As stated in another post, the ONLY ones on the side of the parents are the ones with a dog in the fight.
250 posted on 03/21/2005 9:53:36 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: Edward Watson

True...my bad. And, I totally am with you on your initial post. Watched my mom "pull the plug" on my father; watched my father-in-law do same to my mother-in-law. Hope my wife loves me enough to do it to me if need be. You are, in my heart of hearts, more of a hero than you'll ever know.


251 posted on 03/21/2005 9:54:50 AM PST by wvjim (Montani Semper Libre!)
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To: HMFIC

Right on all counts! For those who are still uninformed, make plans with your loved ones ahead of time, obtain a "DURABLE POWER OF ATTORNEY, MEDICAL" outlining your wishes, Signed, witnessed, notarized AND recorded. Give a copy to your doctor and a copy to the hospital. This powerful document will ensure that those persons named in the document will have the final say so as to your treatment. The names (usually family members) will be listed in order of priority, if one dies or is otherwise unavailable it moves to the next and so on. I am not an attorney, so do your own research. I am a survivor, my wife passed away last year, peacefully, surrounded by family. She was in a terminal condition. She was not in pain and she was not dehydrated because we made sure that this treatment was specified in the document and at least one family member was with her 24/7 to ensure that it was carried out. We were blessed with a wonderful doctor and a wonderful hospital staff. Terri's situation is more heartrending because no one can say that her condition is terminal. My thoughts and prayers are with her family - all of them!


252 posted on 03/21/2005 9:55:18 AM PST by Eighth Square (We've met the enemy - no doubt about that!)
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To: HMFIC

Skeuseme.....Isn't Adultry against the law?

Nufsaid


253 posted on 03/21/2005 9:56:15 AM PST by WomBom
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To: spoiler2

LOL!

Once again, if you have done your research, you'll note that Florida DOES NOT recognize a common-law marriage. THUS, Mikey is STILL married to Terri.

Now, put yourself in his place. You are in your 20's and you wife goes veg on you. Would YOU stay celibate for the rest of YOUR life?

If you answer yes, I would say, BULL SQUEEZE! We're only human and widows and widowers date and remarry. Why? Because we are social animals and NEED a mate. Not to mention this thing called procreation of the species.


254 posted on 03/21/2005 9:56:28 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: avile

All inaccurate.

(1) He didn't run off with another woman. He moved on after six or seven years. Why fault him for that? Wouldn't you do the same? In fact, my in-laws were especially vexed by the fact I met a woman seven months after my wife died and married her slightly over a year after my late wife's passing.

I lasted a year before moving on; he lasted more than six years - are you claiming neither one of us have the right to find happiness and completeness?

(2) Pockets his wife's money? How exactly can any of the awards be considered his wife's money? Did she work for it? Did she inherit it? No, it was awarded to HER GUARDIAN to take care of her. And who exactly is this guardian? Whose name was on the checks? Michael Schiavo! Did he use the money to take care of her? He most certainly did. Are guardians allowed to use part of the proceeds for their own personal needs? Of course. Otherwise a disparity exists between hardship for the guardian while care for the patient.

(3) No he couldn't. If he turned over custody to her parents; he has abandoned his responsibility as a husband as surely as a father who does the same to his children.

I find nothing wrong with how Michael has behaved and apparently, neither do the courts - he won all 11 times.


255 posted on 03/21/2005 9:56:56 AM PST by Edward Watson
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To: HMFIC
The nurses who have cared for her in the past have stated that the tube is for convenience only. She is able to swallow reflexively, so she could swallow liquified food. It just would take some time to feed her, time that most hospices/hospitals lack.
256 posted on 03/21/2005 9:57:57 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Eighth Square

Peace to you and yours.

Thankfully, my father went fast so he did not suffer.


257 posted on 03/21/2005 9:58:15 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: Edward Watson
Note that not one independent medical or court-appointed observer agrees with you which is why Michael has won all 11 or so court cases.

This link [ http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/manion/2005/manion1032005.htm ] was posted for you earlier in the thread. You really should read these links. They will give you information you don't seem to have.

Dr. William Hammesfahr, a neurologist of world renown, examined Terri in 2002 and wrote a comprehensive report on her condition Complete Report of Dr. William Hammesfahr. Among Dr. Hammesfahr's conclusions were:

1. That Terri's heart, EKG's and blood chemistry showed no evidence of a heart attack;

2. A low potassium level would have caused damage to her heart

2. Terri is not in a coma;

3. Terri's neck was rigid indicating unusual trauma to the neck.

With respect to rigidity in the neck, Dr. Hammesfahr noted that he had viewed the same type of injury once before - in a strangulation victim. He also noted that the L-1 injury to Terri's spine was consistent with injuries sustained as a result of being thrown against a table.

Dr. Michael Baden, a world renowned pathologist, has also weighed in with serious concerns about the cause of Terri Schiavo's condition. Dr. Baden had the opportunity to review a bone scan performed on Terri in 1991. Based on his observations, Dr. Baden noted that:

1. It is extremely unlikely that a low potassium level would cause a healthy young woman's heart to start beating. Again, Dr. Hammesfahr ruled out the occurrence of a heart attack;

2. Terri had sustained a serious head injury, the type and degree of which could cause a vegetative state;

3. Terri also suffered from other bone injuries;

4. The type of head injury that Terri sustained was the result of a severe trauma, such as an automobile accident or a beating.

As Dr. Hammesfahr observed, Terri is able to swallow. In fact, one of her caregiver's has sworn under oath that she fed Terri on several occasions.

Removing a feeding tube is one thing; not attempting to give Terri food or water when she is capable of ingesting both without the aid of a feeding tube is quite another.

258 posted on 03/21/2005 9:58:29 AM PST by MSSC6644
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To: Edward Watson
"That is the difference between murder and letting nature take its course."

There is a difference between a chronic disease and dying. You may have finished the job for your wife, and if that was what she wanted so be it.
Are you ready to euthanize chronic patients?- ALs, Alzheimer's, global cva, traumatic brain injuries, cp,etc?
many are in the same situation as Terri. If she had a living will there would be no issue, but she didn't. Her husband has been shown to be a sh-t-yes some allegations are not proven some are, and he wants her cremated immediately- sounds like an episode from QUINCY.
DO YOU WANT TO WASTE HER ANYWAY?
259 posted on 03/21/2005 9:58:48 AM PST by avile (for better or for worse)
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To: wvjim

Agreed. It often takes guts and moral courage to do the RIGHT THING. Letting them move on is tough, no doubt.

Ed, I agree. You are a hero.


260 posted on 03/21/2005 9:59:36 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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