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Terri Schiavo's family have been denied all visitation per Terri's sister

Posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by kcvl

Per Fox News...


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KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischavio; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: windchime
That infection reminds me very, very, very much of Robert Wendland. About to be saved by the Supreme Court in California, he was whisked away and suddenly became ill with pneumonia, and died.

Also Steven Becker, another killed in hiding while courts were in the process of deciding on his life.

581 posted on 03/20/2005 4:12:55 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: ViLaLuz

Read the report finding linked above in this thread.


582 posted on 03/20/2005 4:13:05 PM PST by marajade
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To: Howlin

I believe you were defending Deejay, and I was wondering if you read her very first post.


583 posted on 03/20/2005 4:13:23 PM PST by Collier
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To: ViLaLuz

"She was spoon fed by nursing home employees until Michael FORBADE it. "

Simply untrue, she had a feeding tube inserted shortly after being taken in in 1990.


584 posted on 03/20/2005 4:13:25 PM PST by RS (Keeping them honest since 1998)
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To: Collier; Howlin

I believe Howln was defending those who are siding with the rule of law.


585 posted on 03/20/2005 4:14:18 PM PST by marajade
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To: Collier

I wasn't defending anybody. I was posting with Diva.


586 posted on 03/20/2005 4:15:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: marajade

I read on one of the threads that the paramedics injected her with something to help her breathe and it could have contibuted to her potasium imbalance.


587 posted on 03/20/2005 4:15:36 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: freedomdefender

For multiple reasons.

#1. According to court testimony, Michael formally offered to divest himself entirely of his financial interests in the guardianship estate. That tells me he isn't in it for the $$.

#2. He's been offered money twice to keep her alive. Once $10M and once $1M. That he has turned down money tells me he is more committed to carrying out his wife's wishes.

#3. He was not insistent on this point until the Schindlers testified to this in court. After which time he was quoted as saying something like "That's enough." (I know my husband would NEVER let this happen to me and would try to work with my mother but this would be the final straw for him too):
Court testimony provided by members of the Schindler family included very personal statements about their desire and intention to ensure that Theresa remain alive . . . at any and all costs. Nearly gruesome examples were given, eliciting agreement by family members that in the event Theresa should contract diabetes and subsequent gangrene in each of her limbs, they would agree to amputate each limb and would then, were she to be diagnosed with heart disease, perform open-heart surgery. Within the testimony, as part of the hypothetical presented, Schindler family members stated that even if Theresa had told them of her intention to have artificial nutrition withdrawn, they would not do it.

#4. Michael in-laws admitted in court on the stand under oath that they had told him it was time for him to get on with his life. The families used to live together and get along very well. It was not until Mr. Schindler got angry that Michael got the malpractice $$ that the relationship deteriorated.

I'm married and if something happens to me, my husband may sue and get the money. My dad (stepdad) isn't going to be entitled nor would he ask for one dime.

#5. Terri's sister was on CNN Friday night and said that Terri is a healthy, vibrant woman. Hello?

#6. Terri's parents brought Terri home in 1990. They were overwhelmed (their word) and they sent her back to rehab. What confidence do we have that 15 years later and 15 years older they will be able to care for her.

#7. Court records compliment Michael on his care for Terri which by all accounts has been exemplary. He even became a respiratory therapist in order to better care for her. I know someone who flunked out of that course; I don't think it's rocket science but don't think it's an easy thing to do either.

#8. I would always want my spouse to have the final say in my care. I also think it's too difficult a thing for parents to be expected to let a child go. It's the most gut wrenching thing in the world. I've seen my stepdad do it and it nearly killed him.

#9. There are other reasons but I can't think of them right now :-)


588 posted on 03/20/2005 4:16:12 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Cboldt

What do you want? Total anarchy?


589 posted on 03/20/2005 4:16:13 PM PST by marajade
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To: Jrabbit

No.


590 posted on 03/20/2005 4:16:45 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: ViLaLuz
She was spoon fed by nursing home employees until Michael FORBADE it.

Which has also been the case in several other killings of "useless eaters" like this one, now taking place. Christine Busalacchi, Nancy Cruzan.

They've got it down. Put in the feeding tube, then have it removed to kill.

591 posted on 03/20/2005 4:17:33 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: pickyourpoison

Well I read the report linked above in this thread... and in the report by her legal state representation it stated that her bulimea is what may have caused her to have a potassium deficiency which led to her heart attack.


592 posted on 03/20/2005 4:17:33 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
The Court found his testimony credible.

Obviously. But that isn't really the point. The point is what sort of evidence is sufficient. I can give credible evidence of an offer to buy, but if it's more than $500 and not in writing, I'll have a devil of a time enforcing it by order of a court. Wills are likewise encumbered by an evidentiary burden, above the "credible verbal testimony" of witnesses.

As far as I know, Terri did not reduce her wish to not be fed to writing. Mixed blessing though. If she is truly out of it, then she doesn't case that she is being kept alive. The bias of the law should be toward life.

593 posted on 03/20/2005 4:17:51 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: kcvl
If Michael Schiavo is genuine, if you believe him misguided or not, I don't blame him.

The family is accusing him now of causing her injuries, they are defaming his character left and right.

Assume things are true as he sees it. He tried for four years, including radical treatments, and doctor after doctor told him no go. He made peace with it and moved on. Now her family is accusing him of putting her in her condition. I would tell them to piss off most likely. Michael Schiavo is supposed to watch Terri's sister on Fox accuse him of battering her, then welcome her into the room? Would you?

594 posted on 03/20/2005 4:17:51 PM PST by dogbyte12 (Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?)
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To: RS
Simply untrue, she had a feeding tube inserted shortly after being taken in in 1990.

True that she had the tube inserted after her collapse

But it is also true that she was spoon fed and Michael put a stop to that

595 posted on 03/20/2005 4:18:04 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: AmishDude

Which part of family members making decisions in situations like this, every day in America, don't you understand?

This happens every single day in AMerica in some hospital. And not all those people have living wills.

It's happened in my family twice and neither of them had living wills.


596 posted on 03/20/2005 4:18:33 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: marajade
Did the USSC rule that Terri had equal and fair representation in court under the law and within her Constitutional rights as an American citizen for the past 15 years?

Yes,they did- or no, they did not.

BTW- there is one job for our representatives and that is to protect our rights as citizens. That is their only job.

The GOP and President Bush and Governor Bush and everyone who is fighting for Terri says she has not had her rights under law and held for her by the Constitution of the United States.

597 posted on 03/20/2005 4:18:37 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Howlin

My mistake.


598 posted on 03/20/2005 4:18:51 PM PST by Collier
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To: Cboldt

Sworn credible testimony is considered evidence in any court of law.


599 posted on 03/20/2005 4:18:52 PM PST by marajade
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To: RS
otherwise any " individual who has some significant relationship" can toss it to the Federal District Court.

Where the heck is that?

600 posted on 03/20/2005 4:19:15 PM PST by Howlin
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