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Terri Schiavo's family have been denied all visitation per Terri's sister

Posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by kcvl

Per Fox News...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischavio; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: AmishDude

He testified under oath that she had made that statement to him.


561 posted on 03/20/2005 4:01:48 PM PST by marajade
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To: Hildy
Why do I feel like a character in that cartoon where the dog and fox fight and then punch the time clock and go out for a beer? LOL. No one else will even get that.
562 posted on 03/20/2005 4:01:54 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: marajade
you realize that you are contradicting yourself right now- right. Do I need to point it out?
563 posted on 03/20/2005 4:02:43 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Peach
I don't know. I thought the nurses were testifying in 2002 but it might have been earlier

I could be wrong .. but I believe thouse nurses claims were back in the insurance settlement cases

I have no doubt he took very good care of her then

564 posted on 03/20/2005 4:04:13 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: Hildy
But she was bulemic, throwing up and such.

Depends on who you believe. Some say yes, some say no. There is no evidence she was bulimic beyond the word of her husband.

565 posted on 03/20/2005 4:04:48 PM PST by american colleen
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To: AmishDude

Feel better now?


566 posted on 03/20/2005 4:05:14 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: Peach
Michael has gotten on with his life. He's got a girlfriend. For which he's condemned. But first he's trying to carry out his wife's wishes. All the courts have found him credible on this matter.

Why do you find Michael - who has two children illegitimate who can't be legitimate until Terri is out of the picture so Michael can marry again -- more "credible" than Terri's mother? Michael has something personal to gain if Terri is killed. He can marry his fiance and give his children legal status. So why do you give him more standing and more credibility than the mother who bore Terri?

567 posted on 03/20/2005 4:05:39 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: AmishDude

How many 26 year olds have living wills? Not many.

But I remember being young and watching a movie with my husband and telling him, not for me. Admittedly, a Living Will is preferable.

But every day in this country people have stomach tubes and life support removed based on their family's wishes. My stepsister was on life support two years ago. She was young and didn't have a Living Will. When we were told it was hopeless and had the doctors try everything they could, my stepdad had the doctors take her off the machinery.

It is only in this case because the husband and the parents are in disagreement that this is happening.


568 posted on 03/20/2005 4:06:05 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: marajade
He testified under oath that she had made that statement to him.

So? Was it detailed? Did it involve all the different types of incapacitation? Just saying "I don't want to live that way" while half-asleep or on the way to a restaurant does not make a legal statement. Moreover, you have to believe Schiavo, who has a conflict of interest. Life is too high a hurdle for this. Gotta write it down.

569 posted on 03/20/2005 4:07:14 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: american colleen

Uh. No. Doctors were sued because she was bulimic and they didn't diagnose it when she came in suffering from cardiac arrest.

Had they diagnosed her properly, they've have treated her differently and she might never have gone PVS.

Radiologists and other doctors testified at the trial and admitted she was bulimic.


570 posted on 03/20/2005 4:07:51 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: marajade
Well the USSC agrees with me. So I guess I'm in good company.

Honest, I'm not picking on you ... but the USSC swings both ways. Note Roe V. Wade, the recent decision regarding capital punishment as applied to under 18 year olds, etc. While they provide "the last word," I'd be reluctant to tie myself to the decisions of that august body as "blanket good."

571 posted on 03/20/2005 4:08:13 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Peach

Was your stepsister starved?


572 posted on 03/20/2005 4:09:38 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: AmishDude; Hildy
this woman really did express her

-----Which time? To Michael, when she said something during a TV show, or to her mall-going friend, when she said that the plug shouldn't be pulled on Karen Quinlan, because "where there's life, there's hope?"

573 posted on 03/20/2005 4:09:44 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Peach
Michael has gotten on with his life. He's got a girlfriend. For which he's condemned.

Yeah, for someone on a noble mission, he seems to care an awful lot about what other people think about him.

But first he's trying to carry out his wife's wishes.

And here you contradict your first statement. Sorry.

Plus, if she didn't write it down, so she didn't wish anything. That's why we have the whole living will dealie.

574 posted on 03/20/2005 4:10:31 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

How's that?


575 posted on 03/20/2005 4:10:33 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
"She can't be fed. She has a tube because she doesn't have the capacity to be given food or water."

That's not true. She was spoon fed by nursing home employees until Michael FORBADE it. Numerous medical doctors, too, have said with therapy, Terri could learn to eat again. It is her guardian Michael that forbids any therapy that would benefit Terri or improve her condition.

576 posted on 03/20/2005 4:10:43 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: AmishDude

"Even if she had said something, it's no more serious than an embarassed person proclaiming "I want to die." and having it be used as a suicide attempt."

Sure... I suppose you would just laugh it off if Michael had mentioned to someone in 1989 " Ya'know... sometimes I just wanna strangle her ! "


577 posted on 03/20/2005 4:11:05 PM PST by RS (Keeping them honest since 1998)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Very seriously. :)


578 posted on 03/20/2005 4:11:14 PM PST by Collier
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To: AmishDude

The Court found his testimony credible.


579 posted on 03/20/2005 4:11:17 PM PST by marajade
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To: freedomdefender
Which time? To Michael, when she said something during a TV show, or to her mall-going friend, when she said that the plug shouldn't be pulled on Karen Quinlan, because "where there's life, there's hope?"

Neither. If she were serious, she'd write it down. Otherwise, it's just an emotional reaction to a particular circumstance.

580 posted on 03/20/2005 4:11:57 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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