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Terri Schiavo's family have been denied all visitation per Terri's sister

Posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by kcvl

Per Fox News...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischavio; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: freedomdefender

I really do think the conservatives are doing everything they can. If Terri dies, it won't be their fault.


161 posted on 03/20/2005 1:19:07 PM PST by rushmom
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To: freedomdefender
Not if Greer signed off on an order barring her parents. That would legally exonerate MS from all charges.
162 posted on 03/20/2005 1:19:25 PM PST by Melas
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To: the Deejay

You are wrong. A marriage contract is exclusive. Somehow (and it will come out) an adulterer is allowed to remain her guardian. Adultery is against the contract.


163 posted on 03/20/2005 1:20:03 PM PST by sobieski
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To: BeforeISleep

Sorry BeforeISleep.....I am so emotional about this...I misread it. Thought you meant why is Terri's family visiting. Sorry, sorry, sorry...we're on the same side here. It's getting to me this whole thing.


164 posted on 03/20/2005 1:20:34 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: Hand em their arse
Personally, I totally disagree with "Deejay" but why would that make him a troll... give it a rest...

Thank you...U R RIGHT.

We are all entitled to our opinions w/out attacking and calling Freepers "trolls." "sick puppu."

165 posted on 03/20/2005 1:20:37 PM PST by the Deejay
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To: freedomdefender

At first that's what I would have liked to see happen. Have Michael let the family take her in. But I've changed my mind.

#1. In 1990 Terri's parents did take her in and were "overwhelmed" (their word) and returned her to Rehab. There's no reason to believe that 15 years older they are more prepared for the hardship.

#2. Michael has been found credible by several courts and judges when he says that he promised his wife, if there was no other hope, that she would live on tubes, etc. I believe he's trying to carry that promise out. I know most freepers don't believe him.

#3. Michael had finally had it when the Schindlers testified to the following. He said something like, "I'll never let that happen."
Court testimony provided by members of the Schindler family included very personal statements about their desire and intention to ensure that Theresa remain alive . . . at any and all costs. Nearly gruesome examples were given, eliciting agreement by family members that in the event Theresa should contract diabetes and subsequent gangrene in each of her limbs, they would agree to amputate each limb and would then, were she to be diagnosed with heart disease, perform open-heart surgery. Within the testimony, as part of the hypothetical presented, Schindler family members stated that even if Theresa had told them of her intention to have artificial nutrition withdrawn, they would not do it.


166 posted on 03/20/2005 1:20:42 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: the Deejay
Oh.. Ok then I will amend that. YOu can always tell the people who don't have kids- or who do have kids and could care two bits about them- on these threads. Does that better suit you?
167 posted on 03/20/2005 1:21:37 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: cubreporter

That's true. Where is the evidence that she said that? That's what makes this so horrible. They should require something signed. Lacking that, they should also give her an attorney, someone who can speak for her. Like they do children in custody cases. That's all.


168 posted on 03/20/2005 1:21:51 PM PST by queenkathy (Please, no more bad news this week end.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
***Why can't he let her parents just take care of her? What's the problem***

Well, think about it. How would his book (waiting in the wings, I'm sure) go over if he loses and Terri goes into the care of her family? Talk shows....HBO movie with him as the star?

I don't have a dog in this fight but I truly do not understand that without a written signed statement by Terri why he doesn't let her go into her family's care, get on with his life, and cas-sa-rah-sa-rah(got to be another way to spell that) And I question why did he wait until he got the $ settlement to remember that she didn't want to live? A true mess to be sure.

169 posted on 03/20/2005 1:21:51 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: windchime

He is an evil man.


170 posted on 03/20/2005 1:21:59 PM PST by rushmom
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To: Peach
It's all speculation.

So is Michael's assertion that Terri wouldn't want to live "like this". I wouldn't want my life in the hands of "my husband" who has already moved on with his new live-in and their two kids. I would want someone who still cared about my well being (which isn't Michael). Most normal people would just walk away and let Terri's family care for her. Why doesn't Michael?! He seems to have a pretty strong will to see her DEAD.

171 posted on 03/20/2005 1:22:26 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Neets
I am not referring to you there.
172 posted on 03/20/2005 1:23:03 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Hildy

Did you read the story about The jouney of Kate. They tried to pull her feeding tube also. Trouble was, she was very much alive in there. We just don't know.


173 posted on 03/20/2005 1:23:13 PM PST by queenkathy (Please, no more bad news this week end.)
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To: cubreporter

It's alright cubreporter. I understand


174 posted on 03/20/2005 1:23:56 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Peach
There would also have been outward signs like bruising had she been attacked,

Not necessarily .. just ask abused women who have been choked

and it would no way explain such "severely" low potassium.

I'm not questioning her low potassium ..

I'm just pointing out that Judge Geer denied the families request for an investigation

175 posted on 03/20/2005 1:24:08 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: sobieski
Adultery is against the contract.

Adultery is only illegal against the TWO parties involved.

That would be Terri & Michael. TERRI herself would have to take Michael to court over adultery.

B/c it's NO ONE ELSES BEESWAX.

Plain & simple.

176 posted on 03/20/2005 1:24:21 PM PST by the Deejay
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

You are obviously overemotional and cannot make rational statements.

Go take a walk or a nap and come back after you settle down.


177 posted on 03/20/2005 1:24:42 PM PST by Neets
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To: kcvl

Terry was represented by her own attorey. She had a guardian ad litem appointed.

Regarding the $$, according to court papers, Michael formally offered to divest himself entirely of his financial interests in the guardianship estate.

Why didn't Terri's parent take him up on that offer?

And if he's in it for the $$, why hasn't he accepted the two offers he's had? One for $10M and one for $1M?

As I said, it seems from reading the case history of this that Michael tried everything possible for Terri. Experimental therapy even. Changing his profession to become a respiratory therapist.

When the malpractice case was heard in court, you can imagine the number of professional doctors who were called as witnesses for both sides. It was when he heard that she was PVS with no hope, that I think he decided it was time to carry out her wishes.

You may twist that any way you wish. But after reading the court transcripts and the GAL report, I think you would change your mind about some of your charges.


178 posted on 03/20/2005 1:24:44 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

That was low blow and absolutely uncalled for. Shame on you.


179 posted on 03/20/2005 1:25:07 PM PST by highlandbreeze
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To: the Deejay

It might be true that whether Michael has someone else is none of our business. However, don't you think there would be some kind of a conflict of interest there? What kind of a woman would take up with a man and have 2 children by him, knowing he has a wife in Terri's state. I just think he has lost his objectivity here. Having her die, might be an answer to his dilemma. Many men have killed their wives for less reason.


180 posted on 03/20/2005 1:25:27 PM PST by queenkathy (Please, no more bad news this week end.)
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