Posted on 03/17/2005 2:55:27 AM PST by ViLaLuz
Former Green Beret Commander Bo Gritz is trying to conduct a citizen's arrest of the Terri Schindler Schiavo's husband and the judge presiding in the case before the handicapped Florida woman is scheduled to have her feeding tube removed so she can be legally starved to death. The 66-year-old retired Army Lt. Colonel with his wife, Judy, arrived in Florida from their home in Nevada yesterday with the intent of arresting anyone involved in removing the woman's feeding tube that keeps her alive. He came bearing a notarized "citizen's arrest warrant" addressed to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush Attorney General Charlie Crist. He said his intent is to "papering" state and federal law enforcement offices with his warrant today a day before Circuit Court Judge George Greer has ordered the denial of food and water to Terri Schiavo. Gritz says the "arrest" is designed to allow officials additional options as the Florida governor and legislature maneuver to save the woman from starvation. Gritz says he successfully used the arrest-tool against federal law enforcement in August 1992 when he intervened in the siege at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, and brought what was left of Randy Weaver's family down the hill without further bloodshed. Sammy, the 14-year-old Weaver boy, was killed along with his mother, Vicki, and U.S. Marshal William Degan. Randy Weaver and another man, Kevin Harris, were wounded by police gunfire. Gritz secured the services of renowned defense lawyer Gerry Spence, and the U.S. Department of Justice paid the Weavers $3.2 million in an out-of-court settlement. Harris was awarded more than $300,000. Citing his officer's oath of allegiance to "defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic," Gritz says while he doesn't know Terri Schiavo personally, she nevertheless represents an American in danger of citizen-rights abuse, and he feels an obligation to act while she remains alive. Besides a "Terri-Bill" under consideration in the U.S. Congress, the Florida Legislature votes tomorrow on a modified measure to keep Terri's life-support in place. A previous Florida bill was ruled unconstitutional barring further intervention by Gov. Bush. While threatened with arrest at Ruby Ridge, the decorated war hero instead walked away with FBI letters of appreciation.
Sure, for those who are are unfamiliar with logic and who seek to avoid rational examination of their pronouncements.
Your statement "If I am critical of the source, I am critical of the data" is a classic example of the logical fallacy argumentum ad hominem. Attacking the source does not in any way refute the information provided.
Now, let's try this again. What, specifically, in the profile posted in #30 do you believe to be false?
May I point out that I invited one and all to do their own research?
And that I myself pointed out it was an ADL article/bio?
I didn't hide anything from anyone..
Look him up yourself..
Many of the sites that have interviews, bios, etc, that favor him are Christian Identity, neo-nazi, radical, racist, sites..
I'll say it again.. Don't take my word for it, do your own research..
Then come back here and refute my claims, replete with sourced links, so we can see where YOU got your information from..
LOL!
So this is do as I say , not as I do, huh?
Tell you what- you answer my question and I will answer yours.
"Unique" is one way to put it..
I would refer to it as "bone headed"..
I'm so scared, I think I just wet myself..
No, that was from ROFLMAO!!!
Careful what you snip there,
Oh cutting wit and sharp tongued one.!!!
(Chuckle.. snort!
snippy... snippy... oofta!
You are about as far off topic as anyone can get. The point is the feeding tube removal, not the life history of Bo Gritz. Bo's past and who the ADL thinks are his supporters is a subject for another thread.
Okay, what possible good can come to the pro-Terri forces if they are linked to a notorious whackjob like Gritz, and to his neo-Nazi supporters?
How long do you think the legislatures and Governor Bush will continue to work for Terri if they are seen as being on the same side as white supremacist groups?
If Gritz actually follows through with his threats, thus comitting any number of crimes and actionable offenses in the process, how long will public sympathy last? ESPECIALLY if his more violent supporters cause trouble?
You are entitled to your opinion. Time will tell.
The point of THIS thread is Gritz' involvement.
Pointing out the illogic of your posts and your avoidance of the actual issues does not constitute "attacking the source". If I were using an ad hominem attack, I'd be saying something like, "Diva Betsy Ross is a kook, so her opinion of the ADL is worthless." I'm NOT saying that, though. Instead, I am trying to prod you to actually address the information presented in reply #30.
Again, please tell me what, specifically, you disagree with in the ADL profile. Surely you can find one point there you are willing to say you think is false?
Tell you what- you answer my question and I will answer yours.
What is your question?
Bo told me to ping you.
Gritz' involvment was brought up here. His past and the nature of his operation, support, and activities is perfectly justified in being brought up so people can make up their minds as to whether this is a good idea or not.
Just for the enlightenment of all, how about posting some of the anti-jew quotes attributed to Bo Gritz, and while you are at it, maybe a list of neo-nazi personnel he has daily meetings with.
Um, no. The article is about Bo Gritz's attempt to become involved in the matter.
As Drammach pointed out, this is not someone the pro-Terry side wants as their public face.
Who would then be Terri's next-of-kin?
Bo will do more damage to Terri's cause than Michael, Felos, Greer, and the FL District Court of Appeal combined.
May the cameras be rolling!!
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